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What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 07:50:00


The Mad Japanese
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What if the USSR never collapsed?
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 08:01:06


Vormulak
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impossible because communism is a failure anywhere it is implemented.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 08:18:31


sasha grey
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communism was never implemented in any country, what are you talking about mongoloid?
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 08:20:10


Vormulak
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yes it has and it has failed every time. Just because your very specific brand of communism hasnt been implemented before doesnt mean dozens of other forms havent.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 08:23:43


sasha grey
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no it was not. do some research kiddo
or even better give us the list of countries that have implemented communism in the past lmao xdddd

Edited 11/14/2015 08:25:08
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 09:14:20


Vormulak
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It has this is common knowledge. You're worse than people who say the nazis were right wing. Also im not asian dont call me a mongoloid. I'm a caucasoid.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 09:16:34


sasha grey
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well ive got nothing to add but this


Edited 11/14/2015 09:16:47
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 09:23:43


Vormulak
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hail britannia
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/14/2015 14:51:30


Genghis 
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Simple : East Europe would just still be poor.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:12:19


Жұқтыру
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Another dumb frain? Well, Cold War would still go on, through the internet age, eventually counter-propagandas through internet would decentralise (maybe collapse) USA and SSRU.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:14:29


The Mad Japanese
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Well one thing we know for sure, the USSR would be dragged into the War on Terror and could possibly try an Iraq War somewhere else, possibly more successful than Iraq
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:15:30


Жұқтыру
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Like Afghanistan?
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:16:26


Vormulak
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X thats bullshit AMERICA WILL NEVER FALL TO COMMUNIST INVASION.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:33:19


Cata Cauda
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To OP: Irrelevant question becuase it would have happened sooner or later. The idea of communism is a great concept, but doesnt work for long, due to human nature.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:36:09


Vormulak
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its not a great concept it is morally bankrupt.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:36:53


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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I would like to point out that while communist is doomed to fail so is Capitalism. While the past forms of communism/socialism make people so poor, hopeless, and brainwashed, Capitalism makes people so rich and technologically advanced that the people become lazy, ignorant, materialistic and fat.

Think about it. More people die in the USA from OVER Eating compared to deaths from hunger.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:37:17


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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do you guys get that feeling where you think you are looking at an alt?
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:41:12


Vormulak
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goy relax we'll soon be able to fix overeating also capitalism has been around for thousands of years and has never failed. Communism always fails it is a lie.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:51:13


Жұқтыру
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While the past forms of communism/socialism make people so poor, hopeless, and brainwashed


Socialism doesn't have poor, nor rich. That's the point, but of course NATO says that everyone is poor. Hopeless? More hopeful than Americans, who focus propaganda more on we must keep them off, while Soviet propaganda: they will never be able to get on. Brainwashed, this is not socialism that does this, this is authoritarianism and happens just as much (perhaps more) in "capitalist" countries.

Capitalism makes ***few*** folk so rich and technologically advanced that these folk become lazy, ignorant, materialistic and fat, while the rest starve.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 02:54:48


Vormulak
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they deserve to starve
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 03:02:47


OnlyThePie
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TIME TO SCHOOL SOME NERDS WITH MY HISTORY KNOWLEDGE:

Communism is the economic system where every single person in the state is equal. EVERYONE gets the same food, money, housing, etc., and everybody works the same. Every tiny thing is equal.

Socialism is similar, except the government is superior. The Government gets MORE food, MORE money etc. This is pretty much a highway to corruption (except in Lycurgian Sparta, but that's not important).

Communism, pure Marxist Communism, has NEVER been implemented in any country. There is no proof that it works or doesn't, because it's never been tested. But it's assumed that it wouldn't, because one person would start NOT being equal, and things would get un-communist pretty quick.

Socialism, on the other hand, has been employed in Many countries around the globe, though it's obvious its a dying system. Only 5 countries remain that are "socialist" and they're all in a pretty shitty state except one (China).

Now, on topic: Should the USSR have survived (highly unlikely, their economy was just teetering about, and the government was intentionally collapsed in order to save it from total disaster, so for our purposes, lets say its economy was doing OK), then we'd be facing continued Cold War and its associated proxy wars. But I get the feeling the American people would get tired of useless proxy wars, as they did with Vietnam. The Middle East might actually be more stable, with threat of a big scary Communist Empire leering over them (then again, maybe not). One thing's for sure, we'd all still be doing nuke-drills.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 03:06:07


Vormulak
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wrong thats not equality thats equity you dumb fuck.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 03:08:34


OnlyThePie
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They're literally synonyms, and my definitions were still technically right. Nitpicking does not change the correctness of my statements.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 03:10:05


Vormulak
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no they're not you're playing the commie word game. They're two different concepts entirely.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 03:12:09


OnlyThePie
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Alright then, explain to me why Equity is the proper word and not equality. If you're going to call me a dumbass, you damn well better be able to prove it.

(I suppose I should note I'm not actually a Communist, I just like the clan)

Edited 11/15/2015 03:12:53
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 03:14:08


Жұқтыру
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Mostly agree here, but there is a difference between anarchic communism (never done) and actual communism (SSRU), similar to anarchic capitalism (very rare, Somaliland is the only stable-ish zone that has it I think), and real capitalism (USA). Socialism does not mean the government is more there, it means that it is not as left as communism, that's it. And the Middle East will find a war, with help from somebody, it will, of course, it will.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 03:16:43


Vormulak
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equity boils down to equal outcome equality refers to equal opportunity.
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 05:57:24


The Mad Japanese
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okay now let's assume that in order for the USSR to survive, they abandon Communism and instead revert to a Capitalist Democracy (cause that's one of the most likely options cause you know, gorbachev)

Edited 11/15/2015 05:57:52
What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 13:15:23


DomCobb
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What if the USSR never collapsed?: 11/15/2015 13:18:23


Chronos
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Onlythepie, I dont know where you got your history class, but your definition of socialism and communism are both wrong.
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