I'm not saying it's bad to insult people or that we should stop saying anything that hurts anyone's feelings. That was never the point. Saying "retard" as an insult is just a low blow because you're mocking disabilities that millions of people struggle with every day. It's like using "paraplegic" in a derogatory way. It's just douchey to trivialize it.

My point was that it's a crazy double standard to make such a huge fuss over "retard" when frequently used insults like dumb, stupid, and idiot, are used by almost everyone and mean EXACTLY the same thing. People single out this one word even though it's no worse than a bunch of others out there.

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Surely a clan like Poonsquad would be fine with the word retard being used as they're big advocates of "Free Speech"....

Eklipse is right.

the reason I dislike the word is because you are referring to certain people when you are calling individuals "retards". The word "retard" is offensive towards those with mental disabilities who cannot defend themselves. When it was used the person saying it was referring to those people because he said they do not deserve his respect due to their limited intellect. It is extremely offensive especially when used in that context.

"A retard has none of my respect, they're too dumb and unproductive to earn it. If we want to go by your highrise standards though, better stop calling folk any insults for "respect"."

This is wholly unacceptable language. I'm not sure what upbringing you have had where you feel it acceptable to ridicule the most vulnerable people in our societies. Those afflicted with disabilities or developmental delays had no choice in the matter, unlike some who are able but choose not to 'be productive' - your scorn should fall upon these.

"The measure of a civilization is how it treats its weakest members."

i think the original post is worthy of a thread but the rest should just be deleted and perhaps after a re-think everybody will realise how ridiculous it reads :)

The use of retard as a slur is slightly offensive. I'm not going to call people out on it. The use of retard as a slur and outright saying that retards don't deserve any respect because of their mental disability that they had no control over is majorly offensive.

Xy is totally in the wrong, it has nothing to do with political correctness.

Rules. https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Rules

1.You shall be respectful to other players at all times.
2.Racial slurs, personal attacks, excessive profanity, or any other offensive language will not be tolerated.

According to WL's rules, Poon Squad (and a lot of its members) should be banned just for their usernames...

Though Xapy shouldn't insult them that way. These words are just inappropriate. Vulgar, childish, annoying, these will do. Certainly not for all of Poon Squad, but they do apply to the two leaders. Other adjectives might or might not fit other members.


Poon Squad wants to be taken seriously? Should've thought of it when you made your clan's name. Same for some of the members.


I really don't have anything about Poon Squad's activities nor behaviour, I think they surely would be an amazing, active, big clan... but the names.. the names...

Why do posts with The Poon Squad involved always blow up? Because controversy.

I agree with Death. But don't judge a book by its cover, they are some cool people.

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This is wholly unacceptable language. I'm not sure what upbringing you have had where you feel it acceptable to ridicule the most vulnerable people in our societies. Those afflicted with disabilities or developmental delays had no choice in the matter, unlike some who are able but choose not to 'be productive' - your scorn should fall upon these.

At default, a person who I don't know doesn't have my respect, respect is earned, and how can a retard earn respect? Not by retard standards, mind you, but human species standards. I'm not ridiculing them, it's awful that some folk are that way, it's also awful, what the rapist does because "he had no choice in the matter", and it's awful what a Levantine headchopper does because "he had no choice in the matter". It's awful and it'd be better if retards didn't exist. We give taxes to put them in retard houses, though and take care of them, often to ridiculous amounts (pooping assistance recievers). And retards deserve respect? They have my and hundreds of millions of other folks' money, respect is not something that's going to be given by me, at least.

The use of retard as a slur and outright saying that retards don't deserve any respect because of their mental disability that they had no control over is majorly offensive.

Lebanese boy steps on a mine, it's a horrible accident and, in short, his legs are disabled. His family doesn't have money to pay for something like artificial limbs. He, for sure, does not have any choice. Better not call anyone "sloth-like", "stationary" or "slowpoke".

1. You shall be respectful to other players at all times.
2. Racial slurs, personal attacks, excessive profanity, or any other offensive language will not be tolerated.

I haven't broke any of those rules unless in retaliation. Bigot and narrow-minded are pretty much insults in debate setting, to call them "descriptive words" would be to call all insults (nigger, moskalin) as "descriptive words". I very rarely use racial slurs, do personal attacks, profanity or offensive tongue; when I do, it is usually in answer to such.

Though Xapy shouldn't insult them that way. These words are just inappropriate. Vulgar, childish, annoying, these will do.

Yes, maybe retard was overkill, but it's a valid insult.

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Eklipse, thanks for not bloating up; next, these folk will be banning the word "gay" and want us to say "homosexually inclined" instead.

I completely agree with Жұқтыру about retards. Retards, or the physically and mentally disabled, do not contribute to society. We are forced to pay taxes to take care of these people, and they give us nothing in return. Therefore, our best option would be to exterminate them. I may sound extreme, but I am completely serious. Don't look at this through a purely emotional lens, please; try to understand the logic behind this argument.

This would also prevent people with disabilities from having children with disabilities, further degrading the gene pool. We need to purify our gene pool.

Time and time again, we have given the poon Squad constructive criticism. Now we have no choice but to offer negative criticism.

Eugenics....


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Also, idiot savant. *Not* very intelligent in life matters but super super good in math solving.

I completely agree with Жұқтыру about retards. Retards, or the physically and mentally disabled, do not contribute to society. We are forced to pay taxes to take care of these people, and they give us nothing in return. Therefore, our best option would be to exterminate them. I may sound extreme, but I am completely serious. Don't look at this through a purely emotional lens, please; try to understand the logic behind this argument.

This would also prevent people with disabilities from having children with disabilities, further degrading the gene pool. We need to purify our gene pool.

I was thinking about saying something similar (eugenics), but I was also thinking about not being called Adolf Hitler, a genocidist and "good idea, you start by killing yourself". I used to know someone with some serious genetic illnesses in the family, he said that he is not going to have children through sex, but he will adopt because of these genetic illnesses. Brilliant man.

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@Castle Bravo


First of all I'm offended, I am related and know alot of disabled people + mentally

So on behalf of these people, Fuck you.


"Retards, or the physically and mentally disabled, do not contribute to society."

Physically disabled people do contribute to our society. Retards and Mentally slow people I disagree as well, It depends on the case. Some people are mentally slow but do understand basic commands and learning. They struggle yes, But they are slow learners and just need that extra attention. Also, Maybe they do contribute to society, Gaining attention means Staff care.. Which means employment = Jobs = Wage. This is a way of contributing to society if you want to look at it this way.

"We are forced to pay taxes to take care of these people, and they give us nothing in return."

Before we go to this, Let me tell you there are people in our countries who fucking do nothing. They have good health had a chance of education. But those some just age with their drink and sit back and enjoy the social allowance. Lazy fuckers is all they are and what they always will be their children and grand children. So before we go to the disabled and mentally people.. Who can't do anything about themselves lets first fix those lazy fuckers who have the health and chance at education. People who we can help instead of exterminating them like rats.

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Some people have no moral compass I guess. I sure hope Fizzer bans these two clowns.

We've now moved to genocide on retarded people?

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Physically disabled people do contribute to our society. Retards and Mentally slow people I disagree as well, It depends on the case. Some people are mentally slow but do understand basic commands and learning. They struggle yes, But they are slow learners and just need that extra attention. Also, Maybe they do contribute to society, Gaining attention means Staff care.. Which means employment = Jobs = Wage. This is a way of contributing to society if you want to look at it this way.

It depends on whether the physically disabled folk are disabled since genetics or disabled since accident. They can still have high achievements but so can other folk just as well, and so can normal folk, and children that are adopted (instead of being left to rot in an orphanage and later become vagrants). And we get a population that is less crippled per head. Same thing with retards. Also, they provide a half-kind of employment, one where you pay folk for working, but one where the one paid is not getting anything productive; ideally, a job is meant to be both productive to the payer and the paid. Why not use taxes to have folk rake the leaves free for you in the countryside, or increase the pay of underpaid teachers at the university?

Before we go to this, Let me tell you there are people in our countries who fucking do nothing. They have good health had a chance of education. But those some just age with their drink and sit back and enjoy the social allowance. Lazy fuckers is all they are and what they always will be their children and grand children. So before we go to the disabled and mentally people.. Who can't do anything about themselves lets first fix those lazy fuckers who have the health and chance at education. People who we can help instead of exterminating them like rats.

All they are, let me tell you what they are. They've got jobs. Even in Belarus, one of the most socialist countries there is today, if you don't have a job, you're going under (but you'll have a chance to get back up pretty quickly if you do want a job). In other countries these may exist, but I doubt it in Ireland. They must be working secret (from the government) jobs, I've heard of this commonly, and so they are being productive, either that, or inheritants (and that isn't going to last). The grounds that they come in second priority is because they are harder to find, whereas retard is registered as retard. And it's not exterminating like rats - you don't give sterilisation to rats to exterminate them.

First of all, Don't act as if you know my country.. Stay in your country.

I do credit Belarus for the way they deal with those people. But there are so many other issues with socialism... Corruption, Same pay, A cleaner gets the same pay as a doctor? Cars are very rare, Good Transport due to less money in peoples pockets.. Luxuries like Toothpaste are over-priced.

I personally don't care about you or your opinion about what I said above ^^

This is going to be brief, If after birth, The child is deemed to be possibly retarded. I think from my personal harsh experiances parents should get the choice to inject their child with "Goodbye to life drugs".. I can't believe I'm actually doing this.. My reasons for this are..

1. They don't really contribute much, Not in a economic way, A Emotional way, They are just a vegetable.. Which familys just try to grow into a life plant... But never works.

2. It's stressful on families.. I know what it's like guys don't question me. It's 24/7 care.. Your retarded son could be a 6 year old for life... Just unresponsive, A pain as you need to put all your care + attention to him. It's not fair on families to be doing this.. Your life is just so restricted.. There is no freedom.. The fact that they are still retarded children in pension parents homes.. Is just so tiring and upsetting..

It's a hard topic but you need to experiance what I have to know your answer to this harsh question.

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