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Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/11/2015 23:51:04


BanaNa
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Today on Under the Microscope, brought to you by *cough*a mysterious alt*cough*, we take a look at The Poon Squad.

Number of members: 40
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Tagline: Keep Calm and Poon On
Created: 2/9/2015

Led by a duo of real life workplace friends, The Poon Squad has established themselves as one of Warlight's most controversial and provocative clans. Outspoken, funny, and never shy to boot those who cannot keep up with their unusual pace, Queefballs and Pooncrew have made their clan a terror on team games.

While many have called out the clan for it’s crude humor(ranging from sexually-named open games to provocative pro pics), some have applauded their no-so-serious approach to WL. Their clan page clearly outlines their philosophy and all members are expected to take their turns on time, or risked getting “da BOOT.” If you have a crude sense of humor and enjoy playing fast paced games (24 hr boot), then The Poon Squad is for you.

Informative Clan Page: (B+)
Clean/Mature Reputation: (C-)
Member Benefits: (A)
Clan Activity: (A)
Unity/Achievements: (B+)
X Factors: (B+)
Overall Clan Quality: [8/10]

*this is just an analysis from myself. feel free to disagree or discuss further about the clan and possible factors about them i may have missed. Who will be the next clan...Under the Microscope?*
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 00:34:08


Benjamin628 
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AWF please! Thank you for doing this though.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 01:05:32


ChrisCMU 
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I appreciate these, but seriously, use this thread when you grade:

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/105755-alternative-clan-rankings

For example, Poonsquad average peak ladder rating of 170 (we are 1963, #1). How can they be a B+ on achievements? I think all but a few WG have taken #1 on ladder, some in 3 or more. Yet they are a half letter grade below us?

Edited 9/12/2015 01:06:06
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 01:29:03


indibob 
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you're missing the point though Chris, your clan might be worldbeaters at 1v1 and ladder stats, but you obviously fail to realize that that is but a small part of Warlight.
You're trying to downgrade the clan because we don't play much 1v1?
I'd like also to point out that in none of our team games do we include luck (WR). All our games come under the pure skill umbrella
So what i'm saying is 'achievement' is very subjective
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 01:32:29


Benjamin628 
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All our games come under the pure skill umbrella

Yea beating a level 1 human and 7 AIs is pureskill. If you guys used 3 day boot, you would gain an immense amount of respect.

Edited 9/12/2015 01:33:02
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 01:34:14


BanaNa
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The category is "Unity/Achievements". Achievements are also subjective like indibob pointed out.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 01:36:20


The Final, Forbidden Knowledge
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Yes, but in no sane world is the Poon Squad's achievements only a letter grade away from WG. Have you seen just how much work that clan does for this community??? Easily an A++. Few clans can even compete. Note for example that ChrisCMU is one of the top organizers of clan league.

Edited 9/12/2015 01:37:43
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 01:43:42


BanaNa
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my little report is not the end all. i try to be objective, but no-one is perfect. being inherently flawed is what separates humans from machines. you are welcome to make your own grades my friend :D

and please note that the category isn't ladder stats it's "Unity/Achievements". Also i did praise and take into account ladder performance for [WG], it's just that you can't use that exact same standard if for example I'm putting an RP/team clan under the microscope.

i would love to hear your opinions.

Edited 9/12/2015 01:44:17
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 02:07:29

Ra's al Ghul
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Chris I think your attitude is why WG only is worthy of an A-, although in my opinion a B is far more deserving. You don't care about the community. You only care about yourself and your status in 1v1 games.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 02:28:31


The Final, Forbidden Knowledge
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Chris I think your attitude is why WG only is worthy of an A-, although in my opinion a B is far more deserving. You don't care about the community. You only care about yourself and your status in 1v1 games.


I disagree with this. Chris has always put the needs of the community above his own, and regards himself as a servant, not a ruler. He might be blunt sometimes, but you should never mistake that for arrogance.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 04:22:21


Жұқтыру
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8/10?

For what's most likely the most hated clan in Warlight?

Let me redo it.

Informative Clan Page: (2/10)
Clean/Mature Reputation: (2/10)
Member Benefits: (7/10)
Clan Activity: (8/10)
Unity/Achievements: (3/10)
Overall Clan Quality: 4.4 (Ok)

And that's not me putting any bias in, if I counted off for everytime they made a sexual game, a poorly made, hurried game:

Informative Clan Page: (1/10)
Clean/Mature Reputation: (1/10)
Member Benefits: (2/10)
Clan Activity: (1/10)
Unity/Achievements: (1/10)
Overall Clan Quality: 1.2 (God-awful)
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 04:58:25


indibob 
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Yes, that's an extremely mature posting Жұқтыру.

Lets see...

Informative Clan Page: (2/10) And now we look at After darks clan page. Notice anything missing? Oh yes, information.

Clean/Mature Reputation: (2/10) It is what it is, what people perceive, i shalln't argue with this one except to say that you alone must drop your clans maturity level a few points

Member Benefits: (7/10) No argument

Clan Activity: (8/10) Well we always have an interclan tournament going plus a team game. Generally 10 - 20 clan games going at once. So i would up that rating a notch, but 8 isn't bad regardless.

Unity/Achievements: (3/10) All those games going at once with our clan mates and you question our unity? What is it that your clan does to unify so well that we would only be worthy of a 3?

The rest of your posting is drivel. Games made are games WE joy playing, so if in your mind they are hurried and poorly made then that's your loss. We aren't going to create games especially for your taste. I'm sad that you find you cannot formulate and execute orders within 24 hours but please don't attack us because we can and prefer to.
As to sexual games, well i play second life for that, no need for it here and have no idea how you would play one even if i wanted to on here.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 05:00:41


Genghis 
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Xy has the right idea.

After Dark's clan page is a solid 8/10. Maybe 9/10. It's hard to have a good, informative clan page when you're a little different from most clans, and more different than the clans who consider themselves different.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 05:06:17


indibob 
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really, is it a diplo clan, a team game clan. a lottery game clan? Do they have tournaments and inter clan matches?
This is a page for new members to browse to see if a clan is suitable for them. Their clan page gives NO information
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 05:46:45


Genghis 
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Why does a clan have to be diplo, team or lottery? The world is not analytical, categorized and tied down. Why should warlight be? Why does a clan have to do with the game? Why can't you have a clan but not use the clan for clan things? I'm not saying stupid clan politics, I mean things like French Community. They have no real purpose or specialty, it's just a community. In the same light, After Dark is a community. Unfortunately for you however, After Dark (as well as many other clans) is not the Poon Squad, so like the ignorant child you are you immediately hate them, despise them and loathe them for no reason at all other than that you feel loyalty to Poon Squad and that he is fairly critiquing. On that same note, I will not further carry on this conversation because you have made it apparent you are not intellectually mature.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 06:00:55


indibob 
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i think after assuming i hate loathe or despise anything on Warlight (it's a game !!) you should re-evaluate your own maturity level.
I've nothing against After dark at all. I would never have even browsed their clan page were it not for Xy disparaging the Poon Squad page.
I was simply pointing out that the ratings he were giving were not close to realistic.
If anyone can tell me what information is missing on our clan page to only warrant a 2/10 and it's informative to new members i will see if i can get it included

Edited 9/12/2015 06:02:44
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 06:49:39


Жұқтыру
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Yes, that's an extremely mature posting Жұқтыру.


Sarcasm does not go well on the internet, but you're wrong in saying that either way.

A: Sarcastically saying that: Well, explain how it is not mature.
B: Literally meaning that: Yes, it is; by your standards, rotten poop is mature, so I could not care less.

Informative Clan Page: (2/10) And now we look at After darks clan page. Notice anything missing? Oh yes, information.


AD is run by mostly one folk who does have some time to play, some. Poon Squad is run by two friends in real life who have loads of time to play, as shown by their very short bootimes that they usually don't get booted by (3.5% and 5.4%). Yet the two of them can't make a frontpage that doesn't repulse? Let me explain.

Clanless visitor goes to After_Dark and reads the whole thing, I'll go chronologic reactions list of majority of folk.
1. Tagline - it's pretty ok.
2. Picture - it's cool.
3. First sentence in the description: UNDER REBUILDING. That means that it should get better in the future, but right now, I shouldn't be disappointed if it's mediocre.
4. First paragraph: gives a very general and vague clan description, to be elaborated in future paragraphs.
5. Second paragraph: I see, so I can go there if I'm smart and want to help other folk learn in setting of the Warlight game or want to learn myself. (Note: You, indibob, and all other Poon Squad members would be welcomed if you have grasped enough ædœology to willingly teach us.)
6. Interparagraph: Ok, nothing interesting, oh, cool, Warlight's at the bottom :). Will look at this with more detail later if I'll think about joining this clan.
7. Third Paragraph: Hmm? I'll pay attention to that on public fora, maybe it'll be ok, at the least, it will be learning.
8. Fourth Paragraph: How to get in, how to stay in and ending note reminding the first sentence.

Now, same with majority of folk going to Poon Squad page for the first time:
1. Er, that's an unique tagline (5% visitors gone)
2. First Paragraph: Ok, bye. (75% visitors gone)
Rest of the paragraphs are decent if you're the minority who likes this theme. If there would be a 90% taking away of controversial/silly ("da BOOT") content on the Poon Squad page, I'd rate the page 6/10.

Clean/Mature Reputation: (2/10) It is what it is, what people perceive, i shalln't argue with this one except to say that you alone must drop your clans maturity level a few points


AD doesn't pride itself it's mature, that's like normal humans 6+ priding themselves that they can walk. Maturity is a good trait, isn't that what your clan prides itself on?

Well we always have an interclan tournament going plus a team game. Generally 10 - 20 clan games going at once. So i would up that rating a notch, but 8 isn't bad regardless.


This wasn't much different than I was expecting, maybe even lower. Most other clans with over 40 members have interclan tournaments and anywhere from 0.05 games to 0.5 games per head (depending on pickiness/member quality).

Unity/Achievements: (3/10) All those games going at once with our clan mates and you question our unity? What is it that your clan does to unify so well that we would only be worthy of a 3?


I'm not really taking off points for unity, but Pooncrew did leave your clan for After_Dark and the members do have quite some variance.
Achievements:
* Only clan I know to ever have a pornographic icon (not currently) (bad/good effect, most agree that the bad outweighs the good)
* One of the most hated clans on Warlight (bad effect)
* Group with roughly 40 folk who mostly are under 20% bootrate (simple enough)
* Abnormally fast games (bad/good effect, most agree that the bad outweighs the good.)
* Member of the month (ditto)
* Tell me if I forgot something

Half of the achievements are negatives, this is not good, this is the other way of good. I rated you too well in this category.

The rest of your posting is drivel. Games made are games WE joy playing, so if in your mind they are hurried and poorly made then that's your loss. We aren't going to create games especially for your taste. I'm sad that you find you cannot formulate and execute orders within 24 hours but please don't attack us because we can and prefer to.


The second ratings were based on my preferences, I implied I was putting bias in (that many, most likely most, folk share.). Interclan games, well, you've been warned and it's a prerequisite that you must be fast and "have a sense of humour". That's not the main problem, open games are. With controversial, disgusting names like "United We Poon" and "From Queef to Shining Queef." and 8 hour bootimes.

There's an idealogic line on Warlight, who gets the fault for rigged/creative games. I say that the person joining deserves what they get, but the person making the game doesn't want to play, they want to win by any means. Some folk just want to start up Warlight and play, without reading working conditions, assuming it's vaguely good.

Let's say you legally download software that, in the working conditions, says that you are now signing off all your money, things and land to Arkady Volozh. 49/50 folk don't read the working conditions, I doubt you're exceptional, so you click "I have read this and I agree." The next day, all your money, things and land are gone.

Was it your fault? Absolutely, you lied to the console, practically meaning that you could do unlikable things to the company before they can stop you, against you reading what unlikable things you should not do and easily avoiding pitfalls that hurt the company and could hurt you.

Was the company an arse? Absolutely, but you lied, so foresee some consequences.

As to sexual games, well i play second life for that, no need for it here and have no idea how you would play one even if i wanted to on here.


What? This is your first life? Now I feel sad for you. Anyhow, I'm not sure on specifics, but there's cybersex/dirt talk, for complete losers and then there's just group chat who can type queef the most in one minute? Not all participate in these, but the biggest culprit for those who don't want anything to do with this theme is the public game names. Disgusting.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 06:53:48


Жұқтыру
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were it not for Xy disparaging the Poon Squad page.


Disparaging means thinking something as of little worth, the Poon Squad page has no net worth.

Edited 9/12/2015 06:53:57
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 08:58:53


Buns157 
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I may be one of the few people who think poon squad is a good clan. Maybe not ladder wise, but from the seems of it they are relaxed and are very active with clan team games. Which obviously appeals to more relaxed players.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 10:02:38


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Well, I wouldn't call the Poon Squad "relaxed". If they were relaxed, I'd imagine a bit longer boot times. Not everybody can be a daily player, while if you want to play games with the Poon Squad, you are forced to.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 11:22:10


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I like how Kapy assumes his opinions reflect "most" of warlight when in reality out if the hundreds of players I've played with only 10-20 seem to have negative opinions of our clan. But that's besides the point.

You say people will leave our clan page after seeing our page/description, and you know what? That's fine. Just as WG doesn't want to bring in players whose 1v1 percentage isn't very high, we don't really think a player who's not gonna enjoy our sense of humor will be a good fit anyway. Our page does a pretty good job of portraying us. Pooncrew and I get messages just about every day with people asking to join.

Regarding Pooncrew returning to the Darklordz: During that time, he was still in the clan chat, still making squad games, and still involved in Poon Squad decisions. It's called gathering Intel bozo. Everyone in the clan was made aware of his plans and it did nothing to lessen our unity.

And by the way, most of our game names get complimented by total strangers. Can't count the number of times I've had someone tell me they joined one of my games because they liked the name. Never had anyone, outside of a few people in forums, tell me anything negative about any game names we've had.

But nope, all that stuff, being one of the most active clans in the game, playing games that all participants seem to enjoy, plus constantly working to help each other improve? Guess none of that matters if I'm understanding Kapy correctly. All that matters is that we do things differently amd have a laid back attitude so we must be the worst people on earth.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 11:41:14


QueefBalls
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PS Banana thanks for the fair rating. We're always looking for ways to improve and it's cool to see where those areas of potential improvement are from an outsider's perspective. Although at this point reputation is kind of a wash
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 13:43:35


OnlyThePie
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That started a rage war rather quick. Keep doing these those Banana, they're good
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 13:59:55


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Kapy is just a troll, Im not gonna bother anymore. Poon Squad is a legitimate clan on Warlight, knytes ratings proved that. Chris cum does a lot for the community but hes obsessed with the ladders. Also, I've created plenty of games and tournaments for clans and the community to play in, so for someone to say I do nothing for the community kind of hurts.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 15:12:50


Жұқтыру
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Poon Squad is a legitimate clan on Warlight, knytes ratings proved that.


What knyte's ratings proved is that Poon Squad does is very active, but isn't that good at strategic teamplay, and that's ok if you had something else to fall back on (sexual themes, I guess), but you call games with rules "jabroni" games.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 15:13:30


Жұқтыру
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Regarding Pooncrew returning to the Darklordz: During that time, he was still in the clan chat, still making squad games, and still involved in Poon Squad decisions. It's called gathering Intel bozo. Everyone in the clan was made aware of his plans and it did nothing to lessen our unity.


You don't send a manager to spy in a clan that sends invites to everybody.

And by the way, most of our game names get complimented by total strangers. Can't count the number of times I've had someone tell me they joined one of my games because they liked the name. Never had anyone, outside of a few people in forums, tell me anything negative about any game names we've had.


That's called poor statistic sample. The folk who do join your disgustingly named games most likely like the name to some extent, the majority that don't like it don't want anything to do with you or your clan, maybe blacklist you.

A clanpage is not meant to repulse as Poon Squad's does. I understand if you don't want those players, but, these players aren't going to think of you well.

Edited 9/12/2015 15:18:44
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 16:33:19


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"A clanpage is not meant to repulse as Poon Squad's does. I understand if you don't want those players, but, these players aren't going to think of you well."

And they will think better of your clan when it seems their main spokesman is a narrow minded bigot?
I think we will take our chances on that one
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 20:03:08


Genghis 
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Xy might have huge bias, is very close minded and lacks great variety in opinions, but he is certainly intelligent, informed and aware. It's more than i could say of the Poon Squad clan as a whole.
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 20:38:31


Chagatai Khanate
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I would like to see how others comment 101st with detailed analysis :-)
Under the Microscope: The Poon Squad: 9/12/2015 20:49:31


Ameter
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After reading this thread I've come to the conclusion that Poon Crew may be a bit purile, but probably fun to play with as a casual gamer who still likes to do well and play frequently.

After Dark, on the other hand, I'll never join since holy fuck that guy is a massive douche. And he's a leader of the clan?!
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