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Public Education: 8/31/2015 21:57:31


Ox
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Juq if you hate Social Studies so much why do you claim to teach the Past in your clan, and have a History project going on? :P
Public Education: 8/31/2015 22:02:39


Tyrion Lannister
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No, xpapy. Standardized testing is bad, period.

Go watch john Oliver's episode about it on YouTube.
Public Education: 8/31/2015 22:34:57


Жұқтыру
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When u say "social studies", i reference History/Geography, but in Primary School they do study social issues with that class time (and behavior).


Oh, ok. Confusing name, isn't it? Anyhow, primary school's social issues teaching time - not needed. You have parents and daycare to teach your child social issues.
Public Education: 8/31/2015 22:41:21


Жұқтыру
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No, xpapy. Standardized testing is bad, period.

Go watch john Oliver's episode about it on YouTube.


Watched first 5 minutes, just about American standardised testing.
Public Education: 8/31/2015 22:42:53


Genghis 
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I talked about this in the first post:

Perhaps you should mention what school/country/province you are critiquing so there is no confusion about certain things like what we are precisely critiquing? German public school is very different than American.
Public Education: 8/31/2015 22:45:32


Жұқтыру
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Ah, ok, Kazakh education system.
Public Education: 8/31/2015 22:52:17


Tyrion Lannister
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This thread is mostly about American xpapy.
Public Education: 8/31/2015 23:31:11


Genghis 
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What's your point with that Tyrion? It matters not what public education you are critiquing, so long as we know what public education you are critiquing.
Public Education: 8/31/2015 23:32:19


Tyrion Lannister
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True.

But xpapy couldve pointed out that he was referring to kzahkstan in a thread where everyone else had been discussing the US

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Public Education: 9/1/2015 00:10:35


Жұқтыру
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But xpapy couldve pointed out that he was referring to kzahkstan in a thread where everyone else had been discussing the US


I have never been to America; were you really expecting me to talk about the education system there?
Public Education: 9/1/2015 00:11:37


Tyrion Lannister
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then why does your profile say your from america?
Public Education: 9/1/2015 00:19:34


Жұқтыру
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You thought I was American all this time? Proxies.

I thought it was common knowledge by now.
Public Education: 9/1/2015 00:20:30


Tyrion Lannister
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I knew you were from kazahkstan, I just though you were visiting america.

oh well.
Public Education: 9/1/2015 17:01:56


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1. What are your thoughts on standardized testing? Good or bad? Why so?
Good if it's used within a school to see how school policies and changes are affecting students year to year. Bad if they are used to pit schools against each other or if they are tied to funding. You want teachers to teach subjects and educate students, not teach to a test.

2. What are your thoughts on special needs education? Good or bad? Why so?
Good.

3. Do you feel Sexual education is an important class? Do you feel it should be improved, stay the same or be removed?
It should be comprehensive, and should include discussions on healthy relationships. They should encourage delaying sex but make sure kids have good resources and are educated about it if they choose not to wait.

4. Do you think we should teach more general subjects? A "prepare you for life" class, basically.
Worker training courses for fields that don't need a college degree would be a good idea. Financial planning and life management are always good things to teach.

5. Do you think the maths classes are important, and if so, important for what? Are they good,bad? Do they need improvement et al?
YES THEY'RE IMPORTANT! A very large number of fields require some Math. At a bare minimum high schools should offer all classes up to Calculus for those kids who want to go into STEM careers.

6. What are your thoughts on the current state of Social studies classes? Do you think they are doing a good job?
I didn't pay enough attention in social studies so don't have an opinion.

7. What are your thoughts on language classes? Good or bad ? Need improvement?
Good to learn, and the classes I took were great.

8. Do you think evolution theory should be taught in schools? If so, what about creationism? What other theories?
Evolution should be taught in science class. It's fundamental to biology. Creationism belongs in social studies (when discussing world religions).

9. Do you think the social environment in public school is great? Do you find it lacking? Should it exist at all?
No opinion

10. What are your thoughts on the extracurricular activities? Such as art, chorus, orchestra, JROTC, Sports, or Shop class. Do some need to leave? Do others need improvement?
Keep them all if they can be funded.

11. What are some classes you'd like to see?
Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, Calculus 3. Math classes move way too slowly, especially in K-12.

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Public Education: 9/1/2015 22:19:35


Genghis 
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Interesting.
Public Education: 9/1/2015 22:55:00


l4v.r0v 
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from kazahkstan... visiting america.


Holy shit.

Kapy is Borat.
Public Education: 9/1/2015 22:59:55


Genghis 
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Hey knyte, while you're here why don't you answer the questionnaire?
Public Education: 9/1/2015 23:06:51


Major General Smedley Butler
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Public Education: 9/2/2015 01:41:39


Ω Cat Juggernaut 
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Not sure I want to get tangled up in this mess of a thread, but here goes. (btw, I'm critiquing US school systems, private AND public)

1. What are your thoughts on standardized testing? Good or bad? Why so?


Standardized testing is ridiculous. It tests skill in academic realms, but ignores the other major skills. (people, art/music, physical). In essence, it is made for 1 archetype of person. Just to clarify, I did receive a 34 of 36 on the ACT.

2. What are your thoughts on special needs education? Good or bad? Why so?


Special needs, in general, is letting a bunch of really intelligent people sit on their asses for hours on end, bored to distraction and misbehavior. Then they grow up and are a drag on the system because they were never taught anything. Most special needs children are astoundingly intelligent, but are incapable of normal physical movement or social interaction. Specials needs programs are useful, but should be able to understand what a child's realm of capacity is, fill in the gap, and in a way that can continue after school, so as to help maximize that child's output. (My brother is special needs, this is firsthand information)

3. Do you feel Sexual education is an important class? Do you feel it should be improved, stay the same or be removed?


Most definitely! Unfortunately, most middle/high school students sleep around without knowing much of anything. Telling them not to is a waste of time, no one is listening-and it stigmatizes Sex Ed. Instead, it should be taught in such a manner that the students understand the danger, and the necessary tools to perform safely should be provided. (DISCLAIMER: I do not support underage sex, but the best way to de-stigmatize Sex Ed is by getting to their level.)

4. Do you think we should teach more general subjects? A "prepare you for life" class, basically.


There are 2 questions here. What is commonly considered 'General Education' is, in fact, far too specific to be called general. Especially with the Maths and English/Grammar. To answer the other question: There should most certainly be a life skills course. At a MINIMUM, it should teach teens to do laundry, cook relatively healthily, clean effectively, balance a checkbook, pay taxes, build a resume, and dress appropriately for a variety of situations.

5. Do you think the maths classes are important, and if so, important for what? Are they good,bad? Do they need improvement at all?


Math up to Pre-Algebra is important, for general knowledge. Geometry is also valuable, just to know. Higher levels should be considered specialized, though not extremely so. Statistics should be a required course, because it is often more proofs and logic than actual math.

6. What are your thoughts on the current state of Social studies classes? Do you think they are doing a good job?


I never took a social studies class. That being said, I have no fucking idea.

7. What are your thoughts on language classes? Good or bad ? Need improvement?


Much of what is is taught in grammar these days is unnecessary, and should be reserved for specialists. As for foreign languages: Any time multiple cultures are being instructed in the fundamental piece of another, it is a good thing.

8. Do you think evolution theory should be taught in schools? If so, what about creationism? What other theories?


Ideally, neither. Pure science is the presentation of facts devoid of bias or foregone conclusion. That being said, it is impossible to represent science free of bias, and therefore, both schools of thought should be taught, though they are not perfectly exclusionary.

9. Do you think the social environment in public school is great? Do you find it lacking? Should it exist at all?


Not sure what you're asking, may need some clarification.

10. What are your thoughts on the extracurricular activities? Such as art, chorus, orchestra, JROTC, Sports, or Shop class. Do some need to leave? Do others need improvement?


Extracurricular activities develop the remaining 3 skill sets (people, art/music, physical). Each should be given equal weight in school, not all 3 lumped as an add-on.

11. What are some classes you'd like to see?


Understanding others: A class in which you learn to 'see what others see'. It should teach you to think like another person, and gain a better understanding of other people in general.

12. What are your thoughts on integrating technology into education? Are the 2 distinct? What are your tips to do this correctly?


The two are distinct, and they aren't. Education should include teaching children to use technology, then allowing them to use it for its intended purpose (assisting people in increasing efficiency), ESPECIALLY in the classroom.

13. What about PDA Public Displays of Affection in school? How have you felt about this? Do you really care at all either way?


Think it should be allowed, to a point. No public sex. No public exposure of indecent flesh (short-shorts are ok, belly shirts at discretion, bikini is a little too little-basically, just use a brain). Holding hands, kissing, maybe even feeling should be fine, at discretion. It should be restricted to people who pass the aforementioned Sex Ed course, so as to ensure those doing it are educated, and as an incentive to take *AND DO WELL IN* the course.




And let the shitstorm of responses come.
Public Education: 9/2/2015 02:12:21


Eklipse
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No public exposure of indecent flesh (short-shorts are ok, belly shirts at discretion, bikini is a little too little-basically, just use a brain).

Or at-least have schools enforce the dress code evenly. In my high school there were numerous cases of guys getting yelled at for wearing sleeveless shirts but girls regularly got away with wearing shorts that covered so little they barely qualified to be called shorts. (Which was illegal according to the handbook, but rarely enforced)
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