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let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:28:05


slammy 
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let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:31:30


Genghis 
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You should be able to withdraw any coins you bought as money, but again with a minimum amount , say $10? Any coins you lost, wouldn't be withdrawable because you lost them. Ha. But I feel like some people would realize that they don't want any coins, or they did something on mistake.

Other than that, I think it's all fair. You should have to work real hard to get money. Especially when a good chunk of it is de facto Fizzer's money.
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:35:35


shyb
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i think this new fangled coin casino thing is going to be the death of warlight. and if warlight dies, i die too.
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:44:07


slammy 
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You should be able to withdraw any coins you bought as money


chances are most of that came from coins other people bought as money. what's the difference?
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:46:13


Genghis 
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No I mean, you buy 1000 coins. But, you decide you want those back so you withdraw them. There could be some regulations though, like you'd have to have not played a coin game since time of purchase and time of withdrawal.
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:53:23


slammy 
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why shouldn't you be allowed to withdraw coins you won? what's that logic like?

if you say it's because it's the house's money that's a joke. most of that was deposited, and fizzer takes a rake.

Edited 7/31/2015 03:54:37
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:54:35


Judeburger 
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I think it's perfectly reasonable, as there is some cost associated with each transaction. Asking Fizzer to eat that fee for every piddly $.34 withdrawal is stupid. Think of it like an arcade, not a casino. You buy tokens, win or lose some of their value, and then you can use them to buy certain tiers of prizes, only in this situation your prize is the actual money value and not a cheap plastic toy.
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:55:19


slammy 
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what do you think the transaction fee is? $65?
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:57:44


slammy 
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Think of it like an arcade, not a casino.


why should i? i win money as a prize, not a stuffed animal.
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 03:59:33


Genghis 
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Noticeable enough that Fizzer would like to minimize it.

I think we can all agree Coins was a waste of time to implement and that implementing even 1/10 of the Uservoice ideas would be far more worth it. I mean, I think we're all tired of all the complaints about adding an in-game diplomacy system. I'd rather see that (and a significant shortage of threads asking for it).
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 04:05:54


Benjamin628 
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I think Krzychu/Ruthless Bastard would not agree with you. Also 3v3 Ladder > In-Game diplomacy

I think it should be lowered to 1-5$, but I don't think Warlight is going to die because of coin games.

Edited 7/31/2015 04:07:43
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 04:29:42


slammy 
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You are both derailing the thread. This is not about whether coins are good. Now please play by the rules.
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 04:36:58


Benjamin628 
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I said my opinion in relation to the original post...
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 04:56:05


Hannibal
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Yes, they're not derailing the thread. They're still talking about coins.
let's discuss this: 7/31/2015 10:50:34


Kartoffelr
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The main reason is so obviously to decrease the amount of withdrawn money.
If you need 7500 coins instead of, lets say, 750 coins, it takes more time to gather them, and after this timespan there is a chance that you changed your mind or lost some coins.

And that is totally fine with me, a logical reason, many real casinos work the same way.
No need to avoid this reason like an elephant in the room, it is none.

Edited 7/31/2015 10:51:04
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 00:16:17


hedja 
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I think it is mainly to dicourage people from trying to "take" money from Fizzer by creating loads of new accounts, picking up the 100 coin package (do all accounts get that or was it only old accounts? I'm not sure) and then losing to 1 "master" account, withdrawing the money and running. However I think that the fee should be lower, just that before you are allowed to withdraw Fizzer (or if anyone works for him now them) should check the games you have won money from to see if they are all legit against other well played players or if all the other players are now inactive and level 4 and all the games took 2 turns to finish.
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 00:18:46


Genghis 
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No, I just checked on my alts. I think the 100 coin package was for accounts that existed before 3.0.
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 04:12:27


Dr. Stupid 
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Well, let's look at it from a different point of view. $75 is a high hurdle to clear for most of us. I know that I would never come close to sniffing that kind of money for the simple reason that I'm not that good of a player.

Based on this knowledge, I don't even bother trying coin games because for me it would be completely pointless.

If the bar were $10, I would be more likely to try my luck at it and see if I could skate that far. I can't say that every mediocre warlight player behaves like me, but if they did, lowering that minimum withdrawal amount would coax more of us into the pool.
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 04:51:27


Eddyisthebest
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From my knowledge, You can still get coins when creating a new account. I just think there's a certain period/certain amount of games to where your able to get the coins.

But for the certain amount of coins you can withdraw. I think its in a suitable place. Maybe Fizzer can lower the amount of coins a person can withdraw but not nothing lower than 50$. As said by previous comments, people can create accounts and get the free coins from those accounts and take out money that they didn't deserve.

Also Fizzer probably doesn't want people to withdraw money early. He wants people to play. If people were to withdraw money early, more and more people would probably stop playing coin games. such as for you as an example. You want to withdraw your money. If you wanted. You could withdraw all of it but after you withdraw it. There's a chance you and many other players will keep your prizes and stop playing coin games. Because of this, there's less coins in circulation in the coin games. Less players means less competition which is the last thing anyone wants.

Unless there's a lot of players playing coin games with a lot of coins going around. I see no reason why Fizzer should lower the coin withdraws to a very low amount which could make coin games inactive.
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 05:23:40


Genghis 
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What's stopping someone from buying 7400 coins and withdrawing $75?
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 09:16:59


Thomas 633
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You need to earn them. However, there is nothing preventing 100 alts being generated, you beating all of them and withdrawing $75.
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 10:39:53


Buns157 
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Whats to stop you buying the $100 package; which also has a bonus of 640 coins for free. Then withdrawing them all and getting an extra $6.40?
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 10:50:19


Thomas 633
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You have to have earned them all. Fizzer won't let you withdraw coins that haven't circulated at least once.
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 15:27:59


powerpos
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There are coin-games for low amounts(10 coins) which a player cannot enter if his coin-stash exceed 1000 coins(so if you don't see them, send me your coins :D)
This is a very good design to keep some kind of balance between players,
by keeping the good seperated from the bad.
A good player will occasionally be eligible to play a 10-coin-game, but after making a high profit he/she will need to play games with higher stakes against, presumably, other good players.

edit:
Hence, making low amounts withdrawable would destroy this system.

Although possibly a "withdraw 5000 coins receive 40$"-option should be added.

Edited 8/1/2015 15:32:20
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 16:12:17


Ineffable 
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I believe Fizzer said the 75$ withdraw is temporary

I personally would like to see a Warlight shop and use my coins to buy a Warlight T-shirt hat or mug
let's discuss this: 8/1/2015 18:20:34


hedja 
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+1 Ineffable
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