ryiro Ive noticed that you love a good lenningrad or vologda, as a counter to the entirety of russia. I worry that with just 1 pick in russia you put the person with that one pick under a lot of pressure not to get eliminated there. Im not saying its wrong, ive seen it work for you, but that isnt how i pick and i wouldnt endorse it (yet). Russia doesnt play like the other 2 continents because its so open and has such large inefficient bonuses you cant rely on it for income until your team own it completely, and you seem to be exploiting (or emphasising) that.

Why do you think 2 should be yellow but rhineland-pfalz should not? I somewhat agree, same with 3. I think I need more colours. theyre okay picks but theyre only supporting one bonus which is already quite meh.

I was already toying with west balkans in paint trying to work out what i liked and why. I was waiting to play some more games so i can compare this map to what i actually picks and improve it. Its not a bonus i rate very highly, when i look back over my own picks it rarely gets in the top 15 let alone top 10. Maybe thats wrong of me but the map is there to reflect what i feel about each territory.

http://gyazo.com/82f0e852f40be1bf8f48d65717089580

Edited 7/18/2015 14:37:12

Piggy I was just going to post the image you troll :P

If you make a new color, make it neon green.

Edited 7/18/2015 14:37:46

You said that was hard to find players. If you play MD, I would join one of your games with pleasure Piggy.

Good thread.

http://gyazo.com/1d759f6479f37cd1efd08cfb0b947261
added new colours and messed with it a bit. still not happy with it.

Edited 7/18/2015 15:31:44

I can barely see the Orange-Red/Red mix compared to Orange. Here is my recommended order:

Dark Green
Neon Green
Yellow
Orange
Red

shouldn't this thread be in general btw? this has nothing to do with ladders until fizzer finally adds the highly requested europe 3vs3.

Piggy can predict the future

If this were in the General forums it would have been buried beneath all the off-topic crap. Its best that it stays here.

Pig you got Skype so i can coordininate games? Or you prefer to play multi day?

Btw, love your guide a lot.

Edited 8/1/2015 23:13:01

There is a chat for creating 3v3 Europe games here:

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9048319

I assume the host is still inviting players?

?????
Nah the way to go about it is to have a CLOT since a 3vs3 ladder isn't on Frizzer's priority list

3v3 ladder? Fizzer doesn't know how to play team games and, so, he has no interest.

3v3 clot? It's been done a couple times I think. Both times the clots had fixed teams. The idea of fixed teams is a broken idea. No 3v3 clot has been successful with fixed teams. And there is a reason why. I could explain it. Or you could trust me.

I hear the masses clamoring for direction. "But, oh, Great Gui, what can be done?"

Fear not, masses (if a dozen people count), there is a solution!

1. Make a 3v3 Europe clot. Get a template from anyone but Size and Enuff. They are 0%SR devil worshippers.
2. Avoid the broken system of fixed teams. Use random teams with tiered prereqs.
3. Rate players based on individual results.
4. Use average team rating -- (A+B+C)/3 = Average Team ELO -- to determine post-game ELO changes: use Team A Average ELO and Team B Average ELO to determine how many points are won/lost due to the outcome of the game. Divide the points change by 3 and adjust each team member's individual ELO rating accordingly.
5. Advertise the ladder as something fun. People play as they please. Gradually, more will join.
6. If all this fails, the only solution is a Fizzerian official ladder (same guidelines), which will never happen. Catch-22. Go play a 1v1 ladder game or talk about clan shit. You'll forget 3v3 Europe ever existed.

By the way, I like Dead Peggy's colored map. It seems the apprentice paid attention to his 3v3 sensai. Wax on wax off.