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Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:15:38


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I think that stereotypes are actually good, because there is lot of truth in them.


Definition of stereotype:

1. a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

While you may think its true, its not the whole truth. Honestly, that post shows how much you lack moral judgement and decency.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:18:51

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Yup. I am pretty much entirely done with you now, Bernad. Have fun with whatever the heck is going in your head to make what you're saying seem okay to you. Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry, I'm just done.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:21:28


l4v.r0v 
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I'm not angry, I'm just done.


I'm going to use that same line to describe how I feel right now.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:24:02


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I know my views are very controversial, honestly, had similar believed to you in the past because since childhood I was told: stereotypes are bad, prejudice, etc...

Maybe they aren't good, but informative, hmmm, maybe I used wrong words. They are not good or bad they just "are" and have some truth in them,
so not good but helpful in understanding of the world. And because they aren't created out of nothing...

Edited 7/16/2015 05:27:03
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:25:05


Major General Smedley Butler
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Am I the one person who thinks this guy should just stop before the hole he's digging becomes a canyon?
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:27:31


berdan131
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Yea, this topic has gone too far, I kno

haha

:d
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:28:28


shyb
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no let him keep digging. he just might find gold after all.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:36:21


berdan131
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It seems I say all this because there is nothing else to do for me than bother warlight players with controversial topics, heh
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:41:43


l4v.r0v 
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Well, I mean, you could just play the game normally like the rest of us- y'know, instead of using slurs and looking like complete jerks when things don't go perfectly our way.

Edited 7/16/2015 05:42:00
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:47:52


berdan131
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Patience is a good thing, I agree. Thanks! :P
Maybe I am "too womanly" and just get too emotional hihi,

Anyway, thanks for the discussion

Edited 7/16/2015 05:48:24
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:49:28


l4v.r0v 
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Also, if you ever need a non-shitty teammate for a multi-day, hit me up. I'm half-decent by my own estimate.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:56:21


berdan131
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I don't play multi-days, but for real-time its perfect :)
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 05:56:41

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A = Men
B = Manly Behaviour

X = Gay
Y = Gayish Behaviour


C = Women
D = Womanly Behaviour

A = Men
X = Gay

C = Woman


There exists A with Y. There exists A with D. There exists X with B.


Not all but most A have B. Not all but most X have Y. Not all but most C have D.


X is a subset of A. You don't like D in A. You don't like Y in A.


A doesn't imply B. X doesn't imply Y. A doesn't imply D.

===================================

Test 1 :

You don't like A (AND) D.

You don't like A (AND) Y.

Conclusion : You don't like D and Y. You don't like A.

Test 2 :

You don't like A (OR) D.

You don't like A (OR) Y.

Conclusion : You don't like D and Y.




Summary :

Step 1 : Men doesn't imply manly behavior.

Step 2 : Hating manly behavior doesn't imply hating men.

Step 3 : Hating manly behavior inside man implies either just hating manly behavior or hating both combined.

Step 4 : Both solutions are followed.


Solution A :

You don't like men, gayish behavior, womanly behavior.

Solution B :

You don't like womanly behavior in men. You don't like womanly behavior in woman. You may only like manly behavior. (Quote : Men shouldn't act [behave] like [most] women.)

It is possible you may like lesbian behavior in women.


From dictionary, manly is qualities traditionally ascribed to men. So is womanly. Gayish is an unknown word. Manly and womanly are used described qualities regarded as ideally appropriate and good.

You don't like some qualities. You express traits for a few personal traits. Everyone can have those traits. Hating men and those traits means hating both.


Proof complete.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 06:35:42


berdan131
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Hostile, brilliant :D

I doubt anyone would argue with this
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 07:07:17


Жұқтыру
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Perfect, Hostile.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 07:09:43


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Nicely wrote Hostile, I was thinking of writing something like this earlier but didn't have the energy.

Though I believe your conclusion in Test 1 is slighty incorrect:
"You don't like A." is not implied by the 2 statements given, as there are more arguments that can be used in conjunction with A.
Counter-example: You like A (AND) B.

It might have been an overlook by you and berdan, but my conclusion is that it is not infered that he hates men, and this conclusion is in fact impossible to draw from the information given.

I hope I am correct in this correction! :)

Again, nice work, I love logic!

Edit: Oh, I wanted to add again that the word "fag" was not used by berdan, and continuing to claim that he did is in fact slander.

Edited 7/16/2015 07:13:15
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 07:57:47


l4v.r0v 
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I'm just going to leave this here (scroll down to berdan's response to the obvious troll/fascist NIGHT):

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/99590-m-homo?Offset=40

I think we've reached the point where we have to acknowledge that berdan is homophobic and misogynistic.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 07:59:09


Major General Smedley Butler
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He's just a businessman from the Victorian era.
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 08:02:30


l4v.r0v 
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I'm just waiting to hear his lame excuse this time, followed by a lengthy post that uses formal logic to clarify a point that's not even being debated and inadvertently help berdan cover his bigotry.

We should have a berdan drinking game-

take a shot every time he says he's really talking about "gayish behavior" when he's insulting someone by calling them "gay" for doing something that has nothing to do with sexual orientation and has no association whatsoever with "gayish"-ness

a sip every time he denies agreeing with NIGHT's claim that everything went wrong when women were given the right to vote (despite having clearly agreed with NIGHT and calling him "smart" earlier)

...

actually, bad idea. I don't want to die from an alcohol overdose.

Edited 7/16/2015 08:04:48
Pathetic: 7/16/2015 08:26:13


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Edited 7/17/2015 03:02:46
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