... and just when I thought this forum thread couldn't get any more derailed.

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Being gay, and acting gay, are not the same thing.

The word gay itself is derived from behavior, it was only later used to describe homosexuals because so often they acted in a gay way (that's flamboyent and extrovert) because homosexuality was illegal. So this behaviour was used to identify themselves, hence the idea of "gay identity")

These days often homosexuals don't act in a gay way, and the word "gay" is now more often used in reference to homosexuality, rather than flamboyent behavior.

Both meanings are still valid though, and still used.

There is another meaning for gay also: "foolish, stupid, or unimpressive"

For me it makes sense that berdan was using this last definition of gay, as this was the behaviour diplayed by his partner. But saying that, he said about "gay behavior" but this could be a simple language complication, seeing as he is Polish and therefore probably drunk. I'll wait for clarification on this point.

I'm glad the false accusations of him using the word "fag" have been dropped.

(Edit: Changed the definition of gay to the one from Google to make it clearer and more objective)
See here: https://www.google.co.uk/#safe=off&q=gay+definition

Edited 7/16/2015 11:32:22

Can we all just agree to BL berdan?

I assume they are, because very few women play warlight, such as other online games.

Actually, four of the top five of the 1v1 ladder are currently women. ^_^

Just stop, and get on with your lives.





Your pathetic

Can we all just agree to BL berdan?

And night?

Seriously though, night, are you trying to get literally every single person on the forums to hate you? Because it seems you're making significant progress. If you hate the community so much, why are you still here...?

I had slightly wondered if Night might by Knyte for a time because they seemed to have very similar views, but I took it back upon seeing Night flame Knyte.

I have no clue who's alt we're dealing with, but they must be a very lonely troll determined to tick off as many users as possible.

I'm gonna guess Kellen or American Empire.

@ Fleecemaster

I used AND as exclusive. There are only one item in each group in my comparaison. Unless I am comparing the conjunction (Venn Diagram) of proprieties of Men and Manly Behavior.



My main point is Being part of Women, Men, Gay doesn't imply a certain behavior and can be inter-changeable (Man with Womanly Behavior).

It means that it is either you don't like a certain behavior OR don't like a certain behavior in group of people. To hate a certain behavior in group of people, you can hate the behavior itself or behavior + group of people.

The possibility of a conjunction is complex. The two items are of two different natures.


If we use Test 2, we can use the definition of Manly/Womanly as qualities. Everyone has manly/womanly qualities and there is probably some shared by both (Manly/Womanly) in the traditional sense. If you don't like SOME QUALITIES in a specific group with strong aversion, you are very likely to hate the group itself.

It is hard to infer from the information given that he hates the group. Manly/Womanly qualities is a generalization and not a set of definite elements. A generalization is often used as proof to a certain argument. A generalization on a group of people (+negative bc of "hate"/"aversion") is in almost all cases, a way to inferior(ize) this group of people.

Example :
Women don't know how to drive. Those who don't know how to drive are dangerous. Women are dangerous when driving and shouldn't be allowed.


Gay have gayish behavior. I hate gayish behavior. I hate gays and they shouldn't be allowed to live.


Generalizations are used on a specific group. Otherwise, it is not a generalization (Ideal Qualities Men and Women have).

The words Manly and Womanly are generalizations of a group.

Edited 7/16/2015 16:22:26

I thought NIGHT was knyte as well for a couple of reasons

1) NIGHT is extremely far right fascist, while knyte is a radical leftist. Perhaps knyte was trying to make an alt that was extremely unlike him?

2) NIGHT and knyte pronounce the same, spoken.

3) knyte mentioned "I have an alt I use when I want to start games quicker, because people are intimidated by level 57". This is said in NIGHT'S bio, but a bit more harsh.

4) both from PA.

But this gets disproved when

1) knyte is not in top 100 1v1 ladder (NIGHT says that his real profile is)

2) It's clearly not knyte seeing as NIGHT can't spell knyte right, and that they clearly are operating from two separate brains, as Eklipse says, NIGHT flames knyte, and knyte clearly disagreeing with NIGHT multiple times. No one makes an alt just to argue with them.

kynte is actually middle-right, I believe. He sounds like one, for sure.

When you were in Lithuania, he made a thread saying "Where are my leftists at?"

Knyte loves workers' victory.

To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that I was on the shortlist for NIGHT's main... :/

Also, trivia: It's pronounced kuh-nite (like how "knife" was pronounced in Old English), not "knight." I've just been waiting to tell you guys that until you at least start spelling my username correctly.

But yes, I have an alt that's low level that I use to get games. However, it would be more than a little bit counterproducitve for me to state in that alt that I use it for that purpose.

In other words, you'd have to think I'm really stupid if my alt was NIGHT. IMHO, a good bait alt (didn't realize other people did the same thing) keeps a low profile.

And yes, I'm a radical leftist- specifically a Situationist (a type of Libertarian Marxist). However, as I've said before, I find it unusual and strange that political views are discussed so much on the forums because they lead to flame wars... so I'm not here to start that kind of discussion. Instead, as far as politics go, I've decided I'd rather keep it to other sites like actual political simulators.

Men shouldn't act like women? So therefore there is a specific way women should act? While there is some biological differences between how men and women act (Women needed to nurse their babies so the men would have to hunt thousands of years ago), it doesn't have anything to do with anything here.

Saying that you don't like men acting like gay people is saying that being gay is bad, because gay people are men who act like gay people.

Edit: I was doing this in response to the first page. I didn't notice this had multiple pages. Oops.

Edited 7/16/2015 19:15:26

Night is my alt!

(I'm lying of course)

I'm using an I.P. manipulator to make it look like I'm from PA! Hah!

(That's a lie too!)

^ Another reason I'm not NIGHT: my alt "plays from Romania" (thanks, ZenMate!)

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Edited 7/17/2015 03:03:18

This thread just keeps getting weirder and weirder...