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To Vote?: 7/2/2015 02:27:37

RiskTaker
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9019972

In this game, my player for some reason left me in a 2v2.

Instead of voting to hopefully restart the game, the other team continued playing. Is this disrespectful?
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I think that by not voting when a player is AFK, that makes you more disrespectful than the person who just left.
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I just want to publicly humiliate these players who did not vote.


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EDIT: THE PLAYER LEFT ON TURN 1.

SO - THE GAME WAS NOT DETERMINED ON WHO WOULD WIN/LOSE

After reading the comments, it should be said that it was wrong for what they did, but I should not draw attention to them.
And I should play another game and not focus on these two players.

Edited 7/3/2015 00:59:43
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 03:40:40


The Defiler 
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Their not required to vote. You are disrespectful for trying to publicly humiliate something they did.

I agree that it is poor form not to VTE if it is early (maybe up until Turn 2-3) but if its later then I see no point in voting since the games course is determined.
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 03:56:27


Fallen Angel
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If you're losing the game already, then it is extremely rude to demand people VTE just because your teammate was booted. Does your teammate getting booted improve your position? No. Therefore, it should not be used as a magical way to escape an already lost position.
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 04:38:13


Genghis 
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And here we thought you were a risk taker. Smh
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 04:53:14


knyte 
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It's generally not something you can expect from players to VTE if your teammate got booted.
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 05:02:29


mech
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It was not later. His teammate was AFK on turn 1, and was booted before any moves could be made.
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 06:27:05


Siytorn
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The autismz is strong with op
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 09:14:36


Fleecemaster 
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If it's a 2v2 (or any 2 team match) and someone boots turn 1-2 then it should be a vote to end, no point in wasting an hour playing a forgone conclusion. And the single player doesn't deserve to lose just because he had a bad partner.

Personally, I think if one of the players on the team with two surrenders, making it a 1v1 then it's still fair to play. I think that's the best solution usually, cos at least the game isn't wasted. It's either that or Vote, no other fair option.

Edited 7/2/2015 09:15:29
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 10:44:40

RvW 
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Instead of voting to hopefully restart the game, the other team continued playing. Is this disrespectful?

The problem is that "disrespectful" is not a matter of fact, it's a matter of opinion. What's worse, there's a huge grey area where opinions can differ wildly.

So, if you want to know "are there people who would find this disrespectful?" then the answer is easy: sure. But if you want to know "would necessarily everybody agree this is disrespectful?" then the answer becomes: no, other opinions are certainly possible.

"All is fair in love and war"; if your team hands the opponents an easy victory, why wouldn't they be allowed to take it? An important thing to realise here is that they did nothing wrong. They might argue the "right thing" to do would be for you to surrender a hopelessly lost game.

I just want to publicly humiliate these players who did not vote.

Wait, let me start a thread on "Is it disrespectful to 'publicly humiliate' [their words; not mine] people, before you've even gotten an answer to the question 'did they do anything wrong in the first place?'"...
To Vote?: 7/2/2015 11:14:24


Fleecemaster 
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People seem to forget this is a game, and the main aim is it's supposed to be fun. It's niether love, nor war. It's a game, if you don't treat it that way then you have problems.
To Vote?: 7/3/2015 00:50:53

RiskTaker
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My partner left on Turn 1.

So due to what a bunch of you guys said, I am going to say that it was disrespectful of the other team.

If my partner left on turn 10, the other team can continue playing. But as my partner left on Turn 1, the other team was disrespectful.

And I lost a game which could have been voted on.
To Vote?: 7/3/2015 02:37:38


Siytorn
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1 You're retarded for trying to humiliate people who are by all means innocent.

2 If they did do it just to be a dick you're still retarded for getting so wound up over such a petty thing

3 Losers don't determine outcomes, winners do. Grow up

vvv I did see and it literally changes nothing. You still can beat them if you play smart vvv

Edited 7/4/2015 08:03:45
To Vote?: 7/3/2015 03:12:49

RiskTaker
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I think you have not seen what I have edited above...

Edited 7/3/2015 03:13:24
To Vote?: 7/3/2015 06:30:08


Candybert
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You ended up playing with a teammate, who has a 54% boot rate... at some point or another, you made a mistake. Either it was joining said teammate, or joining a game without bootrate prerequisites (or not bailing out, when you saw your teammate's stats.)

That said, when somebody is booted in 1st turn, I think it's bad etiquette, not to vote, when somebody gets booted 1st turn. What's the point anyway, it's never gonna be an interesting game. Is it worth to waste your time on a game, that's no challenge whatsoever?

...that also said, "humiliating" players for not voting is just childish. Seems like all parties in this conflict care a bit too much about their stats, instead of just enjoying the game.
To Vote?: 7/3/2015 09:40:13


Genghis 
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This is worse than McCain vs Obama, Romney vs Obama, Edward vs Jacob and Turd Sandwich vs Giant Douche combined.
To Vote?: 7/3/2015 09:47:58


OxTheAutist 
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Hi. I also have a question that falls under the same category, but not exactly.

I am in a 2v2 tournament (semi final match), and my opponent's partner got booted. It is now a 2v1. Our opponent has now asked one of us to surrender to keep it 1v1. My partner is now saying "Don't do it, we've made it this far we can't throw it away." But I'm not sure. Should I surrender, or keep it a 2v1?

Edited 7/3/2015 09:48:34
To Vote?: 7/3/2015 15:04:24


ℳℛᐤƬrαńɋℰ✕
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Disrespectful? Yes, it is general practice that most people vote to end if someone leaves on first turn, some even whe second or third. But understand this - it is your opinion of one being disrespectful if he does not vote. Warlight states clearly - it is everyones right to vote or not, to surrender or not! Wether it is first, second or 100th turn - no one cares.

I cant find link to game, but there is a player Zeus who uses rome 3vs3 template saying he is the host and he is the absolute decider when to vote to end or not. When to blacklist a person or not! A players tries to overule games basic rules?

The community interpretations of being disrespectful is the same. I agree with you in practical sense, but it is not a rule! Second so many people boot, surrender first turn because they had bad auto picks.

I learned from the second week, that open-room games are WORTHLESS. Every second person boot rates exceeds 10%? Some think that it is normal to get booted around every fifth game 20%. To me even 10% seems weird enough.

I used to be sarcastic that we need two game-modes/channels. Kindergarden and adult section. Although there is quite truth in this. You can´t find decent game in open room. Just find a player-community and create games among verfied players. Warlight only gives you option to play - it does not tell you whom are the players worth playing at all. Just look the forum. Roughly 80% of posts are empty-nonsenss, even from "veteran" players. As far as I have understood Fizzer have no intention improving the open-room game. We have enormous options making custom games - which is greate, but again look open room games - so many are with senseless settings? Solution is simple - play with trusted players, give up on everyday booters and cry-babyies, once you play with certain people it becomes more fun. Because you do not care to win, just how to game develops becomes interesting.
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