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Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/7/2015 20:15:42


Paul.L.Fla
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Hey everyone
I guess hardly someone know me but I'm
making kinda continuation of Paris-St.Peterburg
(*satiesfied that my 1st map was even nominated for map of the week*)
By the way -sorry if my english isn't that good -

Soon I'm presenting the new expanded map of hopefully better quality.
The work is still in progress, but territories and their names are already complete.
Here's the link: https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=44810

Maybe you have some suggestions for improvement,critics and so on.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/7/2015 20:57:53


Жұқтыру
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Holy...this is amazing!

My only objection is how black France, Italy and Britain and Spain and Russia are, and the Latin strategic territories
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/7/2015 22:11:14

(retired)
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very good work! you even added Iparralde :) and I like how you respected the historical and regional names (particularly in France).

I know some Spaniards who would be disappointed to not have their country entirely though.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/7/2015 23:23:25


OnlyThePie
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Looks great, though I think maybe the colors on bonuses should be less pale, it's hard to look at.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/8/2015 01:21:30


Sergeant Hannibal
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I cannot link the cities to the big map. please name the maps so that we could.
otherwise, I disagree with OnlyThePie mostly and like the map.
Looks great, though I think maybe the colors on bonuses should be less pale, it's hard to look at.


Edited 6/8/2015 01:21:41
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/8/2015 01:32:36


Poseidó̱nas
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That looks.. :3
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/8/2015 21:55:42


Paul.L.Fla
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Angry Panda
Level 58: I know some Spaniards who would be disappointed to not have their country entirely though.
Yeah, I guess. But unfortunately, the map is at its maximum size otherwise shrinking it would make it difficult to fit the armies in the circle-like territories.

LinearLogicalWorldLightRuler
Level 31: I cannot link the cities to the big map. please name the maps so that we could.
If I understand you correctly you mean the naming like in the case of London, right? If so, I still manage to use as less dots as possible.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/8/2015 23:21:28


Жұқтыру
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I know some Spaniards who would be disappointed to not have their country entirely though.


And there's Chinese who were disappointed they weren't featured at all in the India map. And Americans and Polish, too. You're always going to end up upsetting somebody, even in a world map, so nationalism changing your map - out the window.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/11/2015 07:40:22

[NL] Sander
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great map
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/17/2015 11:30:38


[ESP] Pablo García
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*A wild Spaniard appeared*

Ok if you don't want to include all Spain. Ok if you don't want to include Madrid. But damn, "Catalan countries" when Valencia isn't Catalan, but at any case Valencian on its own? "Franja d'Aragó", is it really needed such a narrow territory? "Iberian East" when the only country there is Spain? I don't know, but this map seems somewhat biased.

Anyway thanks for your work, it must have been hard.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/17/2015 23:48:43


Paul.L.Fla
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*A wild Spaniard appeared*

Oh yeah that's a good one :) and thanks, the researches where pretty extensive but worth.

But, I'm sorry if this 'representation' is making here and there an odd impression.
Well, the "Franja" is thought as a strategical North-South-connection/West-East-separation.
The decission for "Iberian East" is based on the incompleteness of Spain(the appropriate capital isn't included)
in combination with the Principality of Andorra.
(Due to the SVG-limit - Otherwise the map name would have become Madrid-Moskva)
Of course, the Valencia-CatalanC. thing can be fixed till the publication.

Edited 6/17/2015 23:56:39
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 00:05:27


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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This map looks GREAT! I love having cities in Diplo games. And this map has a lot.

My only suggestion would be to make countries a certain color. EX: All of Britain's bonuses be blue so that all of the territories are outlined in blue color.

Edit: Also maybe put the cities with the Super country bonus. EX: the city of London is not in the GreatBritianAndIsles bonus

Edited 6/18/2015 00:06:26
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 01:53:02


knyte 
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Can't wait for this map to be complete. This will be great for interclan diplos.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 01:57:34


Paul.L.Fla
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Here's the current upload: https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=44998
Connections and bonus colouring - now all 362 are shown with a bit recolouring - are done.
I was also able to add some planned decorations - unfortunately the cities coat of arms and geographic/aquatic nominations still can't be shown due to the file size limit (ultimate maximum nearly reached I guess).
(The Spain-related issues won't be forget)
My only suggestion would be to make countries a certain color...
Edit:Also maybe put the cities with the Super country bonus.

Oh already, done. maybe these transitional colours are ok ,too.
An affiliation of the cities is a good question. In the upcoming tests (soon testers will be needed) it should work out, how the balance is the best.

Edited 6/18/2015 02:11:39
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 03:10:29


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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Hmm maybe i'll give an example (https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=38883).

Your Germany is many different colors: Purple Green Blue Brown but in that one Germany (The Holy Roman Empire) is all some sort of black or grey so you can tell it apart from neighboring countries.

so all of your countries don't have to all have their own unique color but their shouldn't be two red countries next to each other.

Also you don't have to do this but a lot of people have Country pride and want their country to be a color. Like Netherlands is orange. You can get an idea on what the colors are by looking at other Europe Maps

Edited 6/18/2015 03:10:45
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 03:37:02


Sergeant Hannibal
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Good map
 going in the right direction
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 14:07:58


Von Jewburg
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Reminds me of Paris-St. Petersburg.

The strategic bonuses I don't understand why they are implemented, and make each country a different colored bonus. Very nice idea.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 15:48:38


[ESP] Pablo García
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Reminds me of Paris-St. Petersburg.

Maybe because it's his map, too.

And about the Spanish issues, I think I got what you wanted to do, I will respect your decisions. And a suggestion to replace the "Catalan countries", it could be called "Catalan-speaking regions" or "Catalan-speaking Spain" as the Rousillon isn't included, for example, and saying Catalan-speaking instead of Catalan might reduce Valencia's issue. Thanks for listening me :)
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 6/18/2015 21:51:03


Paul.L.Fla
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Thanks for listening me :)

Thanks for your understanding
By the way nice suggestions to realize.
I for example thought of CatalanValencianSpain/East but "Catalan-speaking Spain" even better roll off the tongue.

The strategic bonuses I don't understand why they are implemented..

Guessing you mean the ones in the "background":
The latin strategic bonuses should be some kind of checkpoint stretching over the superbonus areas.
In the cities - depending on their size - the additional bonuses should make it more complex to conquer them.
The traditional/historical bonuses (like Brabant-Limburg) will be mainly relevant for some distribution modes I'm going to make.
In the last two cases their value ranges between 1 and 2.

Edited 6/20/2015 00:14:41
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/4/2015 00:59:44


Paul.L.Fla
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So, I was busy last week, but the map is complete,
maybe someone interested in testing it?

The links (they just differ in colour):
https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=43988
https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=45445
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/4/2015 17:18:26


OnlyThePie
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The second one is better.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/4/2015 22:59:14


Paul.L.Fla
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The second one is better.

Fine, then I will use that one.

By the way, thx for everyones support.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/5/2015 01:56:49

RiskTaker
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Man. I would love to play those maps.
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/11/2015 06:47:31


Paul.L.Fla
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Already pending public this week.
After two times of trying to make it public,
I guess bonuses are big enough now for the map to fulfill the requirements(Thu).
Apparantly it will just need some time.

Edited 7/11/2015 06:56:21
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/17/2015 19:52:40


Paul.L.Fla
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I got this message...
This map, Metreoque London-Moskva version 2.0 develop dupo-doubled, doesn't seem to meet all of the requirements. [...]It must be possible to determine all territory connections just by looking at the map. This isn't possible on this map for two reasons:

1. A player can't tell where each sub-region exists within the main region just by looking. You should be able to easily correct this by drawing lines/arrows, or just writing the names of each sub-region on the main map.
2. Territories that are split: Imagine a player is looking at the bottom half of Elets-Don. They would have no way of telling that it also connects to Kasimov-Oka, since they don't even come close to touching. Split territories should be split into two seperate territories, or the map must be changed to show that they're one territory.

I'm surprised (not sure what's the problem with 1.) also I've never read in the wiki that splitted territories aren't possible...
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/17/2015 20:18:00

[NL] Sander
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I can see splitted territories in other maps however (https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8210068)
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/17/2015 23:01:53


OnlyThePie
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There's a way to join two territories, but i'm not sure what it is, look on this map at the borders on Berlin: https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=45901
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/18/2015 01:11:11


Cata Cauda
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Just a small thing I realised is that Klosterneuburg is actually not a part of Vienna...
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/18/2015 01:50:04


Paul.L.Fla
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Thx that's ok.
The reason for excluding Klosterneuburg is because it's a former district like Fiumicino(Rome).

Also,
maybe I should just retry with the map like it is, if splitted territories seem to be usually common ..?

Edited 7/18/2015 02:06:44
Map: London-Moskva (13UrbanCentres): 7/18/2015 02:35:52

Joseph Hoyne
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What is the starting lvl to play this one at because there are some good maps but most players who would like to play those maps do not have enough lvl to play them.
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