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Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 15:33:56


Finston Lurdill 
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I need some testers for my map, Cities of the United States, which can be found here:

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=43668

Edited 5/9/2015 18:13:30
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 16:03:01


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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i'll do it for you!

Except there is a map like this ... though it is about the interstates i think.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 17:28:08


Martyrose
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I like the map, I am ot sure if I will like it when I play it, but it looks like a map that I would enjoy playing.
I would like to test

Edited 5/9/2015 17:29:07
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 18:17:28


Benjamin628 
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Ill test
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 20:10:13


StormFront
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Looks fun.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:00:12


Dr. Evil
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I did a fast click through with your connections, and didn't see any mistakes
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:08:56


Жұқтыру
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Woah woah woah, hold on. You forgot Alaska!
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:20:24

Xedrox
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And Hawaii :P
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:25:45


Finston Lurdill 
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Woah woah woah, hold on. You forgot Alaska!

And Hawaii :P


Well, it's more Cities of the Continental United States.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:26:06

RvW 
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Are you sure you want to make DC a +2 bonus all by itself? I know it's the capital, but it will make the map terribly difficult to balance and it means the map cannot be used with auto-distribution (especially with a lot of state capitals (one-territory +1 bonuses) nearby).

@Finston:
Actually, you mean Contiguous States; Alaska is on the continent. ;)

Edited 5/9/2015 22:27:05
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:31:38


Finston Lurdill 
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Are you sure you want to make DC a +2 bonus all by itself? I know it's the capital, but it will make the map terribly difficult to balance and it means the map cannot be used with auto-distribution (especially with a lot of state capitals (one-territory +1 bonuses) nearby).


I'm currently balancing that (among other things).

Actually, you mean Contiguous States; Alaska is on the continent. ;)

Good point. Cities of the Contiguous United States.

Edited 5/9/2015 22:32:55
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:37:59

RvW 
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Connections which might need review:

Pittsburgh <--> Charleston, WV
Columbus <--> Charleston, WV
Columbus <--> Canton
Toledo <--> Fort Wayne
South Bend <--> Fort Wayne
South Bend <--> Lansing
South Bend <--> Indianapolis
Raleigh <--> Fayetteville
Wilmington, NC <--> Fayetteville
Wilmington, NC <--> Richmond

All of these are closely together, but they do not have a line drawn between them. I'm not sure whether the line is missing, or the connection should be removed, that's up to you of course.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 22:53:38


Finston Lurdill 
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Lines that intersect connect all the territories.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/9/2015 23:59:11


Mercer 
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I disagree with "intersecting lines connect things" statement. That is not intuitive nor easy to understand on iOS and Android. It should be more obvious when things connect. So I would put lines in to show the connection or disconnect them. With your logic Dover should connect to Annapolis, but it does not.

Second, It is not clear what is a capital bonus among all the dots in state. I would suggest some flair, perhaps a star behind capital locations. Inspecting maps is not that easy on android and iOS. So it should be clear just from looking what is worth the +1 in the state.

Third, The colored line surrounding territories of the same bonus bigger. It makes it easier on the eye.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 05:26:30


Finston Lurdill 
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With your logic Dover should connect to Annapolis, but it does not.


Woops, I missed that. Thanks.

I disagree with "intersecting lines connect things" statement. That is not intuitive nor easy to understand on iOS and Android.


But showing every connection is unwieldy and takes quite a bit more space. And could you expand on how it's hard to understand on mobile?

Would adding text explaining the mechanic help?

Second, It is not clear what is a capital bonus among all the dots in state. I would suggest some flair, perhaps a star behind capital locations.

Third, The colored line surrounding territories of the same bonus bigger. It makes it easier on the eye.


Sure.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 07:24:16


skunk940 
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I'll test if your still looking.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 08:29:23


Poseidó̱nas
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ill test
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 09:37:14


Hera (EW)
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I'll test
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 11:26:44


Diplomatic Immunity 
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I will test if you want.

And I agree with Mercer about the Capitals being different.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 12:15:12

RvW 
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But showing every connection is unwieldy and takes quite a bit more space.

Don't reinvent the wheel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wire_Crossover_Symbols_for_Circuit_Diagrams.png

You could mark the intersections with a connecting dot (or, if space permits, something like a roundabout / traffic interchange icon).

Alternatively, use the "staggered" approach, something like this:

This would look kind of similar to how you've drawn, for instance, Montgomery - Columbus - Atlanta as well as Birmingham - Huntsville - Nashville, so it would fit the map.


Would adding text explaining the mechanic help?

"Show, don't tell" ;)

In my opinion, including a "manual" with a map should be a last resort; sure, it works, but it's far from an elegant solution.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 18:22:18


Ξ Nanaimo
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Kansas City is in Missouri
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/10/2015 18:55:03

TBest 
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Take a look at this map.

https://www.warlight.net/Map/9107-MrMindors-Ticket-War-USA

A map with a similar concept. Feels relevant for this thread.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/17/2015 01:09:58


Finston Lurdill 
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Don't reinvent the wheel: -snip-


Ah, that's a much better way of representing the mechanic. Thanks.

Kansas City is in Missouri


I'll fix that, thanks!

Take a look at this map.

https://www.warlight.net/Map/9107-MrMindors-Ticket-War-USA

A map with a similar concept. Feels relevant for this thread.


That map is much more focused on the roadways between the cities, while this map is designed with the US cities in mind.
Cities of the United States - Need testers.: 5/17/2015 02:38:25


CalmTiger 
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Yeah, maybe picking up a road map at a local gas station would help. I bought one for like ten dollars. Anyway, it showed details like how long a distance between X and Y would be 3.5 hours Or X and Y would be 2 hours. Would also cover mileage. We used this map to drive from Minnesota to florida. I was usually the most accurate based on my map. Anyway, There should be more connecting roads using the major interstate highways and smaller highways between cities. i just noticed one but I'll point it out in my own drawing.


I just highlighted my own personal changes in red.

P.S. I think I made a mistake on the connecting city in Wisconsin.

Edited 5/17/2015 02:42:20
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