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Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 04:20:33

Kentucky
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I have noticed a disturbing trend in warlight. My fellow black players and I are socially dead within this community. Our opinions are constantly disregarded. Often times in games once people find out my race I am targeted. What is worse is the attempts to exclude me from the community. Often times I will just play the game for fun and people will report me or call me the N word when they are white or when I am talking to one of my black friends they will report my language as offensive.

Typically warlight has been an extension of civil society. The forums are a place of whiteness where the black body is systemically excluded. If feel as though the issues of Freddie Gray and Eric Garner are systemically excluded from discussion. The reality is this community if founded on fundamentally antiblack principles. Social death is a living reality for all of us non-white warlight players. The warlight community actively participates in the expansion of white supremacy. The agenda being pushed by white supremacists needs to end.

The only solution is an end to warlight. All white players must give up their attempts to control and dominate. The extensions of colonialism promoted by warlight are not neutral. Warlight as a website must end.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 04:24:19


Жұқтыру
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All countries' blacks, unite!

No longer will there be a blacklist! There will be a whitelist!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 04:29:15

Kentucky
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You have no idea what I am talking about. You understanding of race is the problem with warlight. Words like blacklist are not the problem. The problem is the ontological state of being black. Warlight is founded on fundamentally racist principles. Your lack of understanding is what allows for the continuation of social death of the black body. For some light background reading I suggest all warlight members read this interview.

http://sfbay-anarchists.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/frank-b-wilderson-iii-were-trying-to-destroy-the-world-antiblackness-police-violence-after-ferguson.pdf
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 04:48:52


Жұқтыру
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Ok, let me try again.

All countries' blacks, unite!

Now, the background will be white! And the blacklist will be called the whitelist!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 04:52:37

(retired)
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The truth is nobody gives a shit about what "race" you are, so stop trolling here.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 05:15:19


Kreczmar
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Kentucky=Wyoming Nobody cares about your skin colour. Nobody in Warlight can see if you're really black. Maybe you're just a fat white kid or drunken Indian of Sioux tribe.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 05:50:17

MrHymen
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Oh look. Trolling. *yawn*

Edited 5/7/2015 05:50:53
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 05:58:41


Coronel Gavilan
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white supremacy in Warlight?? I dont think so.... maybe racism towards an ethnicity but anyway as someone said no one can see your "race" here. Don't push an agenda here please. (Btw.. I don't supress the right to talk about Freddie Gray and others cases)
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 07:35:10


Dublin Warrior 
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Kentucky
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I have noticed a disturbing trend in warlight. My fellow black players and I are socially dead within this community. Our opinions are constantly disregarded. Often times in games once people find out my race I am targeted. What is worse is the attempts to exclude me from the community. Often times I will just play the game for fun and people will report me or call me the N word when they are white or when I am talking to one of my black friends they will report my language as offensive.

Typically warlight has been an extension of civil society. The forums are a place of whiteness where the black body is systemically excluded. If feel as though the issues of Freddie Gray and Eric Garner are systemically excluded from discussion. The reality is this community if founded on fundamentally antiblack principles. Social death is a living reality for all of us non-white warlight players. The warlight community actively participates in the expansion of white supremacy. The agenda being pushed by white supremacists needs to end.

The only solution is an end to warlight. All white players must give up their attempts to control and dominate. The extensions of colonialism promoted by warlight are not neutral. Warlight as a website must end.




--- Dublin Warrior: I will post my reply based on the assumption that "Kentucky" is sober, honest, relatively emotionally stable, not trolling, etc.

First, I am sorry to hear that you, Kentucky, have had these unfortunate experiences.

Second, yes, you will find that I ignore most political/socio-economic discussions here, and on most gaming forums. This is especially true of tragic, and controversial topics, the topics that trolls like the most.
This is despite the fact that I have always been very interested in current events.
I have been very active in pushing for political and socio-economic change out in the real world for much of my life.

I strongly support repealing most/all of the USA Patriot Act, and bringing civilian review boards to all communities experiencing issues with how and why law enforcement officers interact with the community.

But I don't go around saying that here or most gaming forums for two reasons:

1) I visit here to play a game, not to have a serious discussion, argument, or debate on the real world issues which compel me to seek refuge on gaming websites in the first place.

2) Internet Trolls. -- more on them later.

My commentary on current events, politics, etc. is mostly done on Facebook.
Anyone is welcome to look me up: www.facebook.com/dublinwarrior

Third, are many of the maps created by players in this game Euro-centric? Yes they are. The well-documented history of Europe, especially in wars, hard and soft borders, along with a majority of players who identify as white have led to many of the maps being Euro-centric.

I have not seen anything from anyone suggesting that maps need to give special privileges to European maps, countries or territories,
nor have I seen anything from anyone that maps from other parts of the world must be based on names and boundaries reflecting on the European Colonial Period,
nor have I seen anything from anyone that maps of other parts of the world are not welcome, or that places outside of Europe must be more or less difficult to capture, defend, etc. etc. etc.

Fourth, are there many trolls here? Yes there are. Most of the social internet has yet to find and implement solid measures to stop trolls of any stripe or persuasion without severely curtailing free speech. Unfortunately, a sizable percentage of internet trolls seem to be racist, sexist, homophobic, extreme-right-wing ideologues.

As a long-time member of the Green Party, if I knew how to change that, I would have done it by now... or at least really, really tried.

If you and/or your friends choose to leave Warlight, then Warlight has ended for you/your friends. Not exactly the solution that you wanted, but it gets you out of the place that seems to be giving you so much grief.

I think that especially if you choose to stay, that you should talk to Fizzer about your concerns, specifically and especially with regard to false or exaggerated reports of your use of language.

If you choose to stay, perhaps you should form a clan with like/like-minded players who agree that people of color need a safe group of people to play Warlight with.

I would be interested in joining such a clan, even though I have recently joined my first clan... and they seem like really nice people, so perhaps merely seeking out more open-minded players is a substantial solution to the issues that you and your friends face.

Please keep in mind that much the same issues can be said for female gamers everywhere.
I hope I done a reasonable job of speaking up for anyone I see being marginalized, especially when my friends or my clan is involved.



Sincerely,
Dublin Warrior

Edited 5/7/2015 07:35:47
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 07:35:12


Captain Trips 
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unless you tell someone your race ..how in the hell would they know ...if anything when I see Kentucky I think about people like Raylan Givens and Boyd Crowder...moonshine and rednecks...does that make me a racist against rednecks...am I a Mexican ...can you see me ??? this is an international game ..if you don't like being singled out for race then stop telling people your color
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 07:56:23


Thomas 633
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Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 07:57:56


Poseidó̱nas
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they tease me to :(
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 13:21:12


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Isn't Fizzer black?
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 13:38:35

Elroi{IL}
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"The only solution is an end to warlight. All white players must give up their attempts to control and dominate. The extensions of colonialism promoted by warlight are not neutral. Warlight as a website must end."
Lol Your inclusion sounds really not a racist (sarcastic
Most of the players here are from Europe and the United States, the majority are white, if players respond racism, just report instead crying in the Forum...
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 14:08:35


ps 
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Sure there are a few kids / trolls / idiots in warlight who might do random racist remarks, like everywhere in the world idiots exist.

However, there is a report system on warlight to report that behavior, which whenever i used it seemed to have been applied to admonish the people in question. Plus there is a blacklist system in place, so you are not forced to play with those kind of people.

I fail to see it as the endemic problem kentucky is describing.

I also fail to see how warlight is founded on fundamentally racist principles.

My conclusion is that you're trolling.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 14:09:25


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All races throughout history have tried to subjugate others, it's just that recently (the last few centuries) Europeans (whites) have been better at it than anyone else.

"Muh colonialism" = sour grapes.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 14:52:32


Tyrion Lannister
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Frankly, Kentucky, it's your own fault.

You have openly admitted to mocking people in games for their warlights skills, using such words as "idiot" and "moron".

If you mock someone for not being as good at you for a game, I can't blame them for insulting you back.



Also having this are your bio:
If I wanted to talk to bitchez I would talk to my dogs.


Provers your a troll.

Edited 5/7/2015 14:54:07
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 15:32:08


Kartoffelr
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I am quite new but i can talk for myself: I don't give a damn about my opponents or allies skin colors. And i find edgy holocaust jokes in public chats pretty awkward.

But what i already experienced are extremely rude players, (yet) solely from the US. I have not yet been randomly queried and insulted by european, russian or other players. Maybe this is because a majority of warlight players are from the US? I have no idea.

Oh, and about the "troll" references:


Edited 5/7/2015 15:36:34
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 17:19:52


berdan131
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Kentacky, I don't know if ur black, but you clearly have black logic

"This community if founded on fundamentally antiblack principles"

"The only solution is an end to warlight"

Just how much stupid one must be to say such bullshit, either troll or just giving whites another reason for the stereotype of black stupidity. You are a disgrace to all smart Negroes.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 17:32:57


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TL/DR: Dublin warrior has an incredible amount of time on his hands, and, Fizzer is black?
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 17:36:29

Kentucky
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The responses to this threat are deeply troubling. The only thing I have learned from this chat is that warlight is indeed infected by white supremacists. The lack of understanding about race, race relations, and critical race theory displayed in this threat is exactly the problem I am trying to call out. I will respond to each response directly and try to explain race to y'all, but it will be extremely difficult given your lack of conceptual framework. Reading some Frantz Fanon, Franke Wilkerson, Bell Hooks, and Jared Sexton is strongly recommended so you have an understanding about race theory and relations, especially at this important critical juncture.


Жұқтыру - " Ok, let me try again. All countries' blacks, unite! Now, the background will be white! And the blacklist will be called the whitelist!"

Response - This response is extremely disrespectful to an important issue I am trying to raise to the warlight community. Race is an ontological state. Being is what determines race. No matter what I do my race will always be with me. The problem is not in discourse. Language is fluid and only meaningful if it signifies a violent racist ontology and places upon black bodies. The background of warlight and work blacklist is not a concern I am raising at all.


Angry Panda - "The truth is nobody gives a shit about what "race" you are, so stop trolling here."

This comment is a typical one for this threat and extremely troubling. First I will assume you did not put quotes around the word race. "The truth is nobody gives a shit about what race". The problem is exactly that no body gives a shit about race, yet modern society is founded on anti-blackness. Modernity is predicated on the slave trade and existence of the black body being enslaved. For a brief example of why this is true consider the slave trade. The costs of traveling to Africa, enslaving a people, and then moving them to the home country is extremely costly. Enslaving other groups that were white would have been far cheaper. The industrial revolution was fueled by the exploitation and enslavement of Africans in Africa. Modern society is founded fundamentally on the backs of the black body.

Society has not moved beyond the enslavement of the black body. A disproportionate number of whites are represented in government in every single western country in the world. The black body is systematically excluded from political life, a concept called social death. The opinions of black individuals are considered inherently less than those of white individuals. Problems of black people are considered out there, on the periphery of society. The reason you don't care about race is because it doesn't effect you. Your life has benefited in ways you cannot imagine because of the color of your skin. The advantages you have received are not simply because you are white, but they actively come at the expense of those that are black.

The problem is that people don't give a shit about race. Race is an apriori issue that must be addressed before other issues can be discussed. Warlight is fundamentally a rigged game against the black body when they can't participate in civil society. Warlight is simply an extension of typical civil society. Advantages that exist in typical society continue. Issues that are not discussed in society are still not discussed. Where was the protest, uproar, or critique of police brutality after a number of black individuals were targeted and killed. Where was the uproar on the forums? Where was the civil activism? THE PROBLEM IS THAT WARLIGHT DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT. Warlight is a group of individuals who are fundamentally racist given there privileged position in society. The question then is what they do with that position of racism, which is fundamental. All white people are racist in modern western society because of their privileged position, and foundation of society on anti-blackness. Are all whites white supremacist? No, the question is if one actively looks to address racial inequality and anti-blackness, or do they simply allow the system to continue with an indifferent attitude.

The plethora of comments that believe this topic was a 'troll' topic is the problem and why I believe warlight if founded and ran by white supremacists. Individuals actively say they are color blind or do not care about race. That is the problem that individuals don't look to address anti-blackness. Individuals actively continue and promote white supremacy by their failure to take an active stand against issues of racial inequality.

I have partially dressed the issue of trolling, in this comment, but I would like to address it briefly for a second. To anyone that thinks issues of race are for trolling FUCK YOU. You don't know what is like to be black in American society. You don't know what its like to be black in European society. You don't fucking know what its like. You think its some kind of thing to joke about. When you are actively excluded from society, targeted by the state, actively encouraged to die, and without value to your fucking life you don't joke about that shit. FUCK YOU for thinking it is some kind of joke. FUCK YOU for not addressing the issue. But also thank you for showing you are a white supremacist and helping prove my point.

Finally the use of quotations around the word 'race'. This highlights your lack of understanding on the issue of race. Race is fundamental to identity. No matter what even if you are color blind and don't know what race I am or others are you are still racist. You have a privileged position in civil society. The position you have is fundamentally a racist one. Your lack of understanding of your privilege is showed in your quote and attempts to say you are race blind. Race is a state of being, even if you can't see it, it is still something experienced by billions of people that you directly benefit from and actively undermine progress towards addressing the issue. Your active use of your privilege and lack of understanding of race is why I brought this problem to the attention of the warlight community and called for warlight to end. Warlight like civil society must be burned to the ground. Only burning civil society and warlight down to the ground can redeem the black body and advance the black body.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 17:37:29

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Kreczmar - " Kentucky=Wyoming Nobody cares about your skin colour. Nobody in Warlight can see if you're really black. Maybe you're just a fat white kid or drunken Indian of Sioux tribe."

The issue of skin color has been addressed above. The problem i have is that society actively cares about skin color. Society is founded on the backs of the black body. Anti-blackness is a fundamental state of society. Your lack of caring about skin color is what allows for the continuation of anti-blackness as the foundation for civil society. Even if no one can see who is black, who is asian, who is white, those individuals have been influenced and are still influenced by their personal experiences. Warlight is not neutral because it doesn't take these problems into account.

I would also like to call attention to the phrase "drunken Indian of Sioux tribe". HOW DARE YOU. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. You white supremacist fuck. You should be banned from warlight.


MrCherry - "Oh look. Trolling. *yawn*"

I have addressed the issue of trolling above. FUCK YOU. Your active acceptance of civil society and indifference about the issues of the black body makes you a white supremacist.


Coronel Gavilan - "white supremacy in Warlight?? I dont think so.... maybe racism towards an ethnicity but anyway as someone said no one can see your "race" here. Don't push an agenda here please. (Btw.. I don't supress the right to talk about Freddie Gray and others cases)"

I think I have addressed this issue in a number of places but I will address the question of race and white supremacy first. Racism is fundamental to the white body in civil society. Civil society being founded on anti-blackness and the black body means that all whites are definitionally racist because of their position in society. White supremacy is the failure to address civil society and anti-blackness. White supremacists who fail to call attention and actively address issues of racial equality and fail to recognize their privilege are white supremacists.

Next you say "don't push an agenda here - btw I'm not a white supremacist. First you are a white supremacist. Your failure to actively address racial inequality is a functional suppression of issues of racial equality. Civil society, and in this case warlight actively undermine racial progress through their failure to actively address issues of social justice. The agenda of racial equality and destruction of civil society founded on anti blackness in all of its aspects must be pushed. The agenda is not spoken about or pushed unless it is addressed. Only calling attention to this issue can dress it. Your active push to silence me, and silence others who try to call attention to this issue proves you are white supremacist.


Dublin Warrior - "Second, yes, you will find that I ignore most political/socio-economic discussions here, and on most gaming forums. This is especially true of tragic, and controversial topics, the topics that trolls like the most.
This is despite the fact that I have always been very interested in current events.
I have been very active in pushing for political and socio-economic change out in the real world for much of my life
I strongly support repealing most/all of the USA Patriot Act, and bringing civilian review boards to all communities experiencing issues with how and why law enforcement officers interact with the community.

1) I visit here to play a game, not to have a serious discussion, argument, or debate on the real world issues which compel me to seek refuge on gaming websites in the first place.

2) Internet Trolls. -- more on them later."

Thank you for your support in the real world. I find it disappointing that you fail to address issues of racial equality online, but I respect your help on the issue. Hopefully after reading this thread and thinking about the issue more you will address the issue of racial equality more. The rest of your post was very nice and respectable. I am glad you care about these issues and hope moving forward you can help address this issue.


Captain Trips - " unless you tell someone your race ..how in the hell would they know ...if anything when I see Kentucky I think about people like Raylan Givens and Boyd Crowder...moonshine and rednecks...does that make me a racist against rednecks...am I a Mexican ...can you see me ??? this is an international game ..if you don't like being singled out for race then stop telling people your color"

Read everything else I have already said.


Thomas 633

Please ready everything else I have said. FUCK YOU for thinking these issues are troll related issues.


Elroi - "The only solution is an end to warlight. All white players must give up their attempts to control and dominate. The extensions of colonialism promoted by warlight are not neutral. Warlight as a website must end." Lol Your inclusion sounds really not a racist (sarcastic
Most of the players here are from Europe and the United States, the majority are white, if players respond racism, just report instead crying in the Forum...

Wow. You are really a white supremacist. Your failure to care about or desire to address issues of racial equality. I think I have stated my position clearly throughout the rest of this post. Hopefully you realize the importance of ending civil society no in order to address anti blackness.


ps - "Sure there are a few kids / trolls / idiots in warlight who might do random racist remarks, like everywhere in the world idiots exist.

However, there is a report system on warlight to report that behavior, which whenever i used it seemed to have been applied to admonish the people in question. Plus there is a blacklist system in place, so you are not forced to play with those kind of people.

I fail to see it as the endemic problem kentucky is describing.

I also fail to see how warlight is founded on fundamentally racist principles.

My conclusion is that you're trolling."

FUCK YOU for thinking I'm trolling. I have clearly outlined my logic and the destination between racism, anti blackness, and white supremacy. Your lack of understanding of basic racial theory and race issues shows to me that you are clearly a white supremacist.


Judeburger - "All races throughout history have tried to subjugate others, it's just that recently (the last few centuries) Europeans (whites) have been better at it than anyone else. "Muh colonialism" = sour grapes."

This posit is hilariously stupid. Please tell me civil society is not founded on antiblackenss. You don't have to be white to be antilock. Please name a society that isn't founded on antiblackenss. I guarantee you will not be able to.


Tyrion Lannister - "Frankly, Kentucky, it's your own fault.
You have openly admitted to mocking people in games for their warlights skills, using such words as "idiot" and "moron".
If you mock someone for not being as good at you for a game, I can't blame them for insulting you back.
Also having this are your bio:
If I wanted to talk to bitchez I would talk to my dogs.
Provers your a troll."

"Frankly, Kentucky, it's your own fault." - WOW. WOW. I am sure you love blaming rape victims too. You are a real fuck you know that? I can't believe what a horrible person you are. I support all women and issues of social and economic equality. Your blaming of those stuck in the periphery of society for problems they did not chose to face if horrible. I hope you are banned from warlight.

Next I have already stated that discourse is fluid. Being a bad bitch is now considered good. Context and the what the sign signifies is important. Discourse is simply fluid and constantly changing meaning. Everything I have said is consistent with this fact. I have raised an issue about western metaphysics and the foundation of western society against the ontologically black body.

Finally. FUCK YOU. These issues are not worth trolling over. These are important issues to billions of people globally. The fact you think this is some kind of laughing matter and that a number of people have is extremely troubling.


Kartoffelr - "I am quite new but i can talk for myself: I don't give a damn about my opponents or allies skin colors. And i find edgy holocaust jokes in public chats pretty awkward.
But what i already experienced are extremely rude players, (yet) solely from the US. I have not yet been randomly queried and insulted by european, russian or other players. Maybe this is because a majority of warlight players are from the US? I have no idea."

I am concerned that you don't care about your opponents skin color. I doubt you care about skin color in your everyday life either. Your failure to care is why civil society continues to be foundered on anti blackness and needs to be burned to the ground. Only through a violent revolution can society be redeemed.

berdan131 - "Kentacky, I don't know if ur black, but you clearly have black logic
"This community if founded on fundamentally antiblack principles"
"The only solution is an end to warlight"
Just how much stupid one must be to say such bullshit, either troll or just giving whites another reason for the stereotype of black stupidity. You are a disgrace to all smart Negroes."

Wow. I think comments like this prove everything I have said. 'black logic', 'smart negoes' wow. you are a disgrace to all smart white people. FUCK YOU!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 17:46:01


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lol
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 17:50:55


berdan131
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I met some really great black people out there when I was abroad. And why you think I'm racist? Its not a racist comment that black people have smaller brains on average, by maybe, hmm 10% and that they have statistically lower IQ, also different skull shape. It's not racist comment its a scientific FACT.

It all makes them different. Being stupid doesn't mean being worse. It means there are less black physicists but black people can be great friends and maybe better at physical work and better sprinters than whites.

End by end, stereotypes didn't appear out of nothing, they are an effect of actions, decisions and behaviour of groups of people and there is lot of truth in them.

I don't mind if your' stupid, but at least don't be ignorant. What are warlight principles? Is there a set of anti-black official rules, hmm? What your saying only works against your intelligence. You said this ignorant statements, not "warlight racists"!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 18:07:44


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So yes, I am confident enough to say that there are many dumb black people, but only they worked for their titles. Respect must be earned. No wonder blacks were perfect slaves, as they were easily fooled.

It doesn't refer to all of black people, just to some or, majority of them. Also, I say this to negroes as a whole, I would never personally said it to anyone.

Kentucky demands that black be treated the same as white. Actually, they are treated the same, the law doesn't discriminate them. They just have lower potential on average and therefore earn less, get worse grades... They've worked for this, and the white, bad, supremacy gave them the same opportunities as for non-black kids, only they wasted these opportunities.

There is freedom of word and everyone can have any opinion on anyone, opinion is not a matter of discrimination, if you were brought some centuries ago, then you would face real slavery, apartheid and discrimination.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 18:21:29


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Wait can people even tell if you are black or white or any other skin color on Warlight. The people telling you these things in game are probably a-holes and have no life. Who cares what somebody says about your race. The only thing to do is ignore them cause you should not let it affect you.

And i find it offensive to categorize every white person here as a white supremacist

Edited 5/7/2015 18:22:41
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 18:24:04


Жұқтыру
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Let me try one more time:

All countries' blacks, unite! The colour white will now be banned from Warlight! Now, the background will be white! And the blacklist will be called the whitelist!"

Edited 5/7/2015 18:55:04
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 18:26:30


Kain
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hey, if you dont like living with white people then go to africa!!!
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 19:09:17

DanWL 
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I don't know why, but that sounds raciest.
Anti-blackness in Warlight Community: 5/7/2015 19:14:19


Eklipse
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Unless you can post some solid examples of games or topics where you experienced this racism you'll likely be thought a troll by everyone.

Secondly, the report feature is there for a reason.
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