If the setting is 3+5 a high level europe game can take from 10 to 25 turns. 3+5 is a bit short for a team game, but it's fine for me, I'd expect most games to take ~60-90minutes.

I was thinking boot times for RT could be like 5 + 5 banked + 20% per turn added to bank. What do you guys think?

For NA Region if I were to schedule a game to be around 7 pm that would be around 7-8 AM for Oceania, but it's likely that the RT phase will be done in the evening after the 9-6'ers are home. I'm sitting down with a timezone map figuring out how to make it suit both regions.

Edited 4/24/2015 17:56:54

Can each RT game agree upon a time that works for all of them when their match-up is made? Does it need to be the same for all?

in the early turns you need more times then in the in the late, no point for ank 20%.
i would suggested 8 min boot, no banks.

No Autoboot please.... If the other team wants to boot them direct so be it... but I think both teams (if they are highly skilled) are respectful enough to give a few seconds to each other on occasion.

imo there have to be an auto-boot (same as direct) exactly for that reason^, banking boot should give enough time to avoid getting booted anyway. Imagine if you can play ~30 more min, then your opponent ask you to not boot since he'll brb.. Make it simple and just use auto-boot, that way it's equal for all parts. (could make booted players turn into AIs though, so you can come back after being booted)

I'd suggest a bit higher banked, but lower limit. for example 3 min boot, 15 min banked. Should be plenty of time imo

Edited 4/24/2015 19:31:44

18 minutes is a lot but...

I agree that a low boot and a high bank is good. (I can agree with auto boot also)

Completely agree with Hennns
picking will be very crucial and will require more time than in any other normal game

I don't like banking added. I suggest enough bank for early picks/moves (turn 1 will take a while just to discuss intel). Last thing you want is someone to bank a bunch of time and stall everyone late for no reason (i doubt it, but you never know). Like maybe 5 min boot with enough bank for picks/first turn. maybe a 10 minute bank?

As far as time of day, are you talking EST for that 7pm?

Edited 4/24/2015 21:16:58

You can allow banking boot times that last only for X ammount of turns....

Perhaps 7minute direct boot with 8 minutes of banked boot (bankings last 3 turns)

@Jefferspin:

The 2nd stage will be pretty rigid, but if both parties agree to a time before the stream is supposed to be hosted (before Wednesday/Friday) I don't really see why not.

@Chris:

Yeah 7 PM EST would be 9 PM west coast and early morning for the East Asians. That's the time I'd be most interested in. Maybe 6 PM EST.

@Gnuffone:

Are you sure that 8 minutes is enough for pick stage? 10 minutes would be my limit on pick stage, thus the suggestion for 5 + 5 banked.

@Turtle & Hennns:

Has to be an autoboot so neither side complains.

@Hennns & Ryiro:

Idk, 15 minutes seems too much.



I'm toying with a lot

7pm EST would be 10pm pacific. I am 2 hours behind in MST. So 9pm for me. 8pm would be really iffy with kids that go to bed at 8.

I think you have it reversed. 7pm Easten Time is 4pm Pacific Time

Option	boot	Bank
A	5	10
B	3	15
C	3	10
D	5	5
E	8	3

This show different options and the max time (min) a game can take after it've started. Note that Banking can be set to end after X turns and I've not included any option which add time to bank (I can if you want). Also since it's multiplayer game, technically I should multiplay banked time by #players, but I've not done that; so games can take longer than the chart shows. Anyway thought you might wanted a comparison :p

	MaxTime				
Turn	A	B	C	D	E
0	10	15	10	5	3
5	35	30	25	30	43
10	60	45	40	55	83
15	85	60	55	80	123
20	110	75	70	105	163
25	135	90	85	130	203
30	160	105	100	155	243

@Turtle: Uggh, I'll stop talking in American system and just talk military time from now on. I get too confused.

Point is for America I'd want it to be roughly 18:00 at the earliest and 22:00 at the latest for any of the timezones, which would make it early morning for the East Asians.

@Hennns:

Thanks for the table. E is eliminated. B and C seem too short, so I'd pick between A and D given these options.

7 min boot with 8 minutes banked but the banking lasts 3 turns (most important turns too)

Lol. Yeah i did not catch the time error.

If you do 7 minute boot those games will be way too long. Like 2 hours probably

5+10 seems more than reasonable. Experienced players will have no problem adjusting to 3+5, but if people want to talk more, I guess 3 minutes is not enough. I think either of 5+10, 5+5 settings is very fair to both experienced and new players. Probably for the sake of competition 5+10 is preferred, considering picks sometimes take >10 minutes.

So I would like to start 1st stage in a week from now so you all have until the 4th of May to send in your applications before we start.

I have been thinking and I believe that for the 2nd stage that these times would be most appropriate:

17:00 GMT - 8 on Tuesday and Thursday for NA region

17:00 GMT on Tuesday and Thursday for Europe region


Here's a time converter if you're confused: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc (GMT-8 is also America/Los_Angeles and GMT is also Europe/London)

The streaming times would be Wednesday and Friday @ 12:00 GMT - 6

Boot times for the 1st stage will be 1 day 4 hours with vacations not honored. If this conflicts with your vacation schedule, remember you can list yourself as an alternate and have someone else play in your team during 1st stage, then swap with him for the 2nd stage.

Boot times for the 2nd stage and on will be 5 minutes + 10 minutes banked. I think this is really fair.

Edited 4/27/2015 16:46:41

So are you saying 5pm Pacific time?