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Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/6/2015 17:58:59


Gundisalvus 
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I've given some thought as to how I'd host a large championship of this type. I'll voice some thoughts here, and see what y'all think.

Quoting myself from a while back,



... if you wanted to host a Warlight World Championship, what's the "best" way to do it? It wouldn't be round robin, for sure. That leaves elimination tournaments or Swiss tournaments (a format Warlight doesn't support). Swiss tournaments differ in elimination tournaments in that you are not kicked out after losing, so you have a chance to make a comeback after a bad streak, and they differ from Round Robin tournaments in that you do not have to play a round against every single person -- you play against people with similar scores. This is statistically more accurate than double eliminations as well, meaning that it is a better indicator of skill.

If I had to host a Warlight 1v1 World Championship, I would do one of two things: a) I would host a ten round, Swiss tournament with between 60 to 200 players, or b) I would do somewhere between 20-40 players with different sets of 4-player round robins, with the top player from each set advancing to an elimination. I prefer the Swiss, though. If we keep the numbers the same, 60 to 200 people for a ten-round Swiss, you're looking at a total of 300-1000 games played in the course of the championship, and each game would have to be manually hosted since Warlight isn't smart enough to do all this. I'd preferably get a few other people to host games, but I would be working out most of the mechanics of the tournament by hand (though some help with seeding would be helpful, as I doubt I know all the people who would want to compete).

As for the amount of time needed to complete the championship: for Swiss tournaments, you need to wait until all the games in a round finish before you can know your next opponent. So, each round lasts as long as the longest game. Assuming we do the normal strat. 1v1 template, that could take about 3-4 weeks per round, multiplied by ten, so about eight to ten months. That's doable, and, to my eyes, makes sense. People dropping out would simply forfeit the rest of their games. Voting to end would count as a draw, etc.

The round robin series might take less time, since I would require a smaller number of players, preferably, and each player would play three games at a time against the other people in their set. That could theoretically take 2 or 3 months, though I haven't tested this out, yet...



A Swiss tournament run manually, outside of the Warlight's brackets, would also allow the option of using a different template each round.

For those unfamiliar with how Swiss tournaments work, Wikipedia does a good job explaining, and I have hosted a Warlight Swiss tournament before with the LEA (http://challonge.com/WarlightLeague1).

Edited 2/6/2015 17:59:15
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/6/2015 18:47:10


Master Turtle 
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Sign me up.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/6/2015 19:17:46


Gundisalvus 
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I'd be willing to host it if I can get one or two people to help with setting up the matches, as it would take a ton of my time to host 100 1v1 matches per round. . .
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/6/2015 22:38:25


Thomas 633
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i would play...
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 05:51:02


Kenny • apex 
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Swiss roundrobins have been set up in CLOT before.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 05:54:36


shyb
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i would play and help set up
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 15:01:24


Gundisalvus 
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Swiss roundrobins have been set up in CLOT before.


I'm not familiar enough with coding to try CLOT, but I have other methods.










Current people signed up:


Turtle
shyb
Kasparov
Thomas 633
TBest
trexmix
Alias09
his balls.
[Falcon] Colonel Harthacanute
elbee
Blortis
GeneralGror
HankyPinky
John Smith
linberson
Bloody-Nine

I'll set a date for the start at some point in the future.

Edited 2/14/2015 21:42:18
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 15:07:38


Gundisalvus 
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On a slightly random side note,




Swiss roundrobins



Swiss tournaments are not roundrobins. The two terms are mutually exclusive :)
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 15:21:23


lmmtennis
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I would just take the top 100 1v1 ladder spots.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 15:28:06


Gundisalvus 
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I'll be contacting people in the top 100, and people from clans like 20, Apex, WM etc. But I won't prevent non-alts from joining if they want to compete.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 15:53:38


TBest 
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I would love to play, (and win?! xD)
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 15:55:52


Mussolini
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If you wouldn't mind a really shitty player, I'd be in!
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 16:26:33


❤HankyPinky
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One thing you might add is a prerequisite that to join you need at a 50% 1v1 win rate.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 16:38:55


shyb
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i suppose you do need a way to decide who gets in and who doesn't, unless there are enough spots to let in everyone who wants in.

i know i'm nowhere near the best (probably not even top 100), but it would be fun to play and see how good i did. but i would hate to think i took a spot from a better player.

regardless i will do what i can to help organize.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 17:00:00


Poseidó̱nas
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Uh I would like to join and I'm sure I can organise for some of our players from After_Dark to give it a go :)
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 17:08:47


Gundisalvus 
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One thing you might add is a prerequisite that to join you need at a 50% 1v1 win rate.



I don't want to exclude non-alts. If someone wants to compete, they can.


Thanks Alias and shyb for volunteering to help organize. I'll set up a chat game with you two and anyone else who volunteers.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 23:20:45


Thomas 633
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I can help too, cos I do have all the features required...

to help you might want to put level 47 or the strategy pack as a requirement, if you aren't using custom senario make it level 43 (order delay and promote cards)
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/7/2015 23:21:07


Thomas 633
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just for the people helping you make the games
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/8/2015 00:09:34


Gundisalvus 
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That depends on whether we do a different template each round. I think everyone can host strat 1v1 games with 3 day auto boot.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/8/2015 02:21:52


Gundisalvus 
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At the moment, no one has signed up from clans that should definitely be represented in this . . . . lookin' at you, Apex/20/WG/a bunch of others. . .
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/8/2015 05:22:01


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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I'd love to play.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/9/2015 13:07:59


elbee 
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I'd like to play as well
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/9/2015 13:10:04


his balls. 
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ill play.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/9/2015 13:51:37


Gundisalvus 
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List updated! I'm considering a start date in March or April.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/9/2015 18:32:00


{rp} GeneralGror
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I'll play :)
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/9/2015 21:01:39


Blortis 
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I'll play and if you still need more people to host games I can do that also.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/9/2015 23:58:17


❤HankyPinky
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I wouldn't consider myself worthy of being in the Warlight World Championship Tournament, but I'd play if I'm not taking a better player's spot.
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/10/2015 00:15:25


Gundisalvus 
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I wouldn't consider myself worthy of being in the Warlight World Championship Tournament, but I'd play if I'm not taking a better player's spot.



Our World Championship won't exclude anyone who wants to compete!
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/10/2015 14:28:35


Nex
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It's kind of annoying you don't allow alts. I feel discriminated against
Discussion: Yearly War(name) Championships: 2/10/2015 22:47:53


Thomas 633
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maybe make an elite category for top clans, and a social category for people like me and shyb, who joined for fun
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