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The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 04:41:09


Жұқтыру
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No, even North Korea and the USSR had money.

I'm talking about people who advocate absolute removal of fiat money from society. Hitchiker's guide to the galaxy explains it well.

Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. And so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable...Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.


I'm talking about these people...
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 04:51:13


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My freind read that book. And yes you right those people have lots of money but I ment civil wise Equality etc( by those people I ment the nations)

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The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 06:21:43


Thomas 633
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That is the intro from book four...

and you edited out the digital watches bit...
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 11:18:56


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Gays can quit being gay
Wrong
Same with transexualism
Wrong on sooooooo many levels
And abortion can be argued as murder.
Can be, but it should be a choice, because that's how freedom works.
petty war against religion.
It's not a war on religion, but it's not like I'll sit here and listen about how it's so peaceful when it's not.



And to Eklipses entire post, Atheism is not a religion. It's simply non belief. So no, it is not the same as blaming Christianity for wars, but I'm not blaming the whole of christianity for being an evil society that needs to be banned. I think everyone is entitled to a belief and it should be respected to an extent, but it should be kept out of law, out of science, and out of public schools. It is a belief and a way of life, much like being a vegan. But do not tell me that the Bible and the Quran are peaceful, when you can't even write a book without making contradictions left and right.
Edit, forgot to respond to JSA.
A true Christian belief is one of love and compassion
Mixed in with slavery, bigotry, racism, sexism and more
Christianity teaches homosexuality is a sin. However, we are all sinners. I don't support gay marriage in any way, because I am a Christian, and believe it is wrong.
And yet, we allow you to exist even though plenty of people think being christian is wrong and against our beliefs. You're allowed to be married, have christian children, build tax free buildings to preach and praise in, and spread your word like the flu. But god forbid someone be allowed to marry another of the same sex who they love, and form a happy life.
many Christians treat homosexuality as an almost "unforgivable sin"
Yeah that man-made sin hierarchy is a pain in the ass, isn't it?
Abortion is murder depending on when you believe life actually starts.
It entirely depends on your situation. Why should a rape victim have to live through pregnancy, especially after the traumatic experience she's been through? I want abortion legal for rape cases, and rape cases only. It's not something I want every teenage girl doing as a hobby, nor would I imagine anyone wants that. It's a not Plan C, it's not birth control, and it's not a condom. It's help.

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The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 13:49:06


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Religion won't allow us to ban it from our school, law, governments etc part of religion is to spread it. And if your so concerned about freedom you wouldn't ban these things. Banning someone's ideals isn't called freedom it's called oppression
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 14:02:54


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"It entirely depends on your situation. Why should a rape victim have to live through pregnancy, especially after the traumatic experience she's been through? I want abortion legal for rape cases, and rape cases only. It's not something I want every teenage girl doing as a hobby, nor would I imagine anyone wants that. It's a not Plan C, it's not birth control, and it's not a condom. It's help. " She has to live for it cause God told her to. To kill the baby is considered murder. She can put the baby up for adoption if she wants.

"A true Christian belief is one of love and compassion"
Mixed in with slavery, bigotry, racism, sexism and more

1 we do allow slavery but their are strict rules of how to treat them

2 How many times to I have to say we treat others equally

3 people in the 1800's used the story were God cursed a man "and his decedent's" as an excuse for slavery. God never cursed his decendants. Those peolpe didn't follow the slavery rules what so ever.

4 man have their place and jobs woman have theirs. Men are not allowed to mistreat woman.




The religion is peaceful it's the pepole who take its name to do injustice who aren't.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 14:27:36


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Alex is right on one accord : that woman NEEDS to have her baby.

Otherwise, her gashmoigitty will look too good and she'll get raped again.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 14:53:53


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My friend hacked my account and changed my name.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 14:55:20


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Also there's a time limit to how long a person can be a slave 6 years of work and on the 7th you give them a choice if they want to be free.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 15:28:31


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I'd like to distinguish 3 different kinds of responsibility of a belief system for crimes committed in it's name:
- Category 1: The belief system encourages those crimes directly.
- Category 2: The belief system doesen't directly encourage those crimes but you can interpret it to the extreme (pervert it in some ways) to find a justification.
- Category 3: Using the belief system to justify your crimes is complete and utter nonsense.

From my little knowledge of Islam what the IS is doing doesen't seem to fall into 'Category 3'. Hitler for example perverted darwinism with his belief in a German SuperRace superior to all other races.

I'm pretty sure that most crimes committed in the name of Chrisianity fall into Category 3. However the bible isn't a collection of quotations so if someone takes a small bible passage, rips it out of context and allegorises it to his liking then this is his own responsibility.

Some examples:
- Noah cursed Canaan and not Ham. Canaan is the grandfather of the Canaanites and those people weren't black.
- The Crusades: Christianity doesen't have any holy sites / holy lands that need to be reclaimed. There also is no concept of a pope with the authority to order a holy war against unbelievers. During the first days of Christianity the Emperor Nero was at power who is known for slaughtering Christians. The bible then contains instructions for believers on how to live a godly life under such difficult circumstances. A christian ruler however calling himself "Holy Father", forcing kings to bend to his will,... I mean come on.
- Because you are talking about slavery: You are mixing up the rules given to Israel with instructions to Christians. Many of the early Christians were slaves and some were slavers. The bible then contains instructions for the slaves on how to live a godly life under slavery and also some instructions for their masters. The letter from Paul to Philemon is about his run away slave Onesimus who also returned to his master with this letter.

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The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 22:12:46

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Can be, but it should be a choice, because that's how freedom works.

The above is Lawlz's response to the "Abortion can be considered murder."

How can you expect us to take you seriously when you make comments like that? You plain and clearly state that murder should be a choice because that's how freedom works.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 23:17:31


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Abortions are bad in general though ;
Why would you WANT to kill your birth rate in the late game when it's so important to grow your cities to the max to maximize science production.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/6/2015 23:54:07


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Overpopulation. Poverty. Unhappiness.

You know what that leads to.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/7/2015 00:00:14


Thomas 633
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All of those dystopian novels that are so popular right now?
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/7/2015 00:26:47


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Overpopulation is only defined by lack of technology and space. Technically, overpopulation doesn't exist. But some effects of intense population density are felt in China and India ( Mexico City too ).

However, population booms ACTUALLY spell periods of total economic booms, the continuation of an economic boom and other booming industries. That said, if left unchecked, they do lead to ginormous unhappiness, which means revolts and loss of production capability which totally destroys anyone's early- or mid-game. This is especially true for warmongers who conquer too rapidly for their own good and target too-large cities. However, Population booms ( especially in the late-game ) means you either joined the Freedom ideology ( Because you built small ) or because the new technologies has allowed your fossil of a nation to finally grow your 1 - 5 cities.
The Incas are especially renowned for population booms, which can happen in the Mid-Game to lead to Space Race win while everybody else is building factories! But, they were wiped out in the Mid-Game when they while they were weak with unhappiness-related stunted growth and starvation of cities by Isabella, so we don't have to worry about them anymore!

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The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/7/2015 00:42:47


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You plain and clearly state that murder should be a choice because that's how freedom works.
It CAN be considered murder. Nowhere have I stated that I believe it is. But feel free to respond to one statement out of them all.
Why would you WANT to kill your birth rate
We're not china, and we can't support that large of a civilization anyways.
Religion won't allow us to ban it
Pity, deal with it. It's your religion, not mine.
Banning someone's ideals isn't called freedom it's called oppression
No it's not, because we haven't banned it. It's keeping your cult separated from the rest of us that don't believe and don't want to follow it. You can have your own little private schools and churches for that, but it has no place in public education.
She has to live for it cause God told her to. ~Context: Rape pregnancy
That's the kind of fucked up shit that makes people kill themselves, how fucking dare you.
1 we do allow slavery
Strike one
How many times to I have to say we treat others equally
Refer to earlier mentioned Sin hierarchy where lgbt is the ultimate sin
man have their place and jobs woman have theirs.
Let me guess, in the kitchen? You're a pig
The religion is peaceful


Tl;dr-

-Christianity is peaceful

-We support slavery

-Christianity is peaceful

-We're a tad racist, but it's okay

-Christianity is peaceful

-Sexism is cool, cause god supports it

-Christianity is peaceful

-God made it so an innocent women will be raped, and get pregnant, so she has to suck it up and kill herself because she can't stand to see her stomach hold a bastardization of evil itself

-Christianity is peaceful

-All sins are equal, except they're not

-Christianity is peaceful

-We don't like abortion, but we support you committing suicide after rape.

-But most of all.....Christianity is peaceful







You people disgust me and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/7/2015 00:45:07


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Civilization ( total wAR



I don't have the alligator mouths on my tablit.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/7/2015 01:06:06


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Part of freedom is freedom to ignore. So you can just ignore us.

We don't support slavery in that sense. As said strict on how to do stuff with the slaves.

We just explained we weren't racist.

Men have duties and woman have theirs and they need to respect that.

Innocent people do get raped and it is wrong. But that doesn't mean they have the right to kill the " bastardization".

Those people will live happier knowing they had the baby, and giving to people who cant have babies then killing the baby.

God doesn't allow suicide. Those people can have joy in the fact that they would let a baby be born and give it to some one else who can't even produce.



We don't support abortion, suicide or rape. Nor cruel slavery.
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/7/2015 01:09:12


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"No place in public education" Yea and IF you say atheism and evaluation should be taught that would be hypocritical.

Edited 2/7/2015 02:00:30
The Islamic States continued murder.: 2/7/2015 01:57:14


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I'll join a secessionist movement before I see Christianity officially deemed as a "cult" in my country.

Lawlz, you are ignorant of Christianity in so many ways I can not even begin to explain. Christianity does not in any way condone racism. In fact, most abolitionists and civil rights leaders were Christian (Martin Luther King Jr. was a Christian PREACHER for crying out loud).

Christianity is also not sexist. Stating that men and women are different does not equate to stating that one is superior or inferior. However, if I am wrong please do give me some examples about how horribly oppressed Christian women are.

Lastly, do not quote words like freedom when trying to justify abortion. Abortion is murder, and I don't care how you frame it, nobody has the "right" to commit murder. Even if a girl is raped it will not kill her to have the child, and she can easily send it off to adoption if she doesn't want it. It's a horrible situation yes, but killing the child isn't the way to handle it.

It's a shame when people fall prey to the same level of bigotry and prejudice that they claim to oppose.
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