I shared them because I saw that coat of arms appeared in the west side of the map, but now its dissapeared, maybe the creator change his mind or I dont know.

The russian coat of arms was the double headed eagle with a St. George shield.

version of 1589


version of 1667


Find the right Ottoman insignia is more difficult indeed. Certainly they used flags and seals, but maybe every sultan has their own and did not been a unified version. With some research can be find an authentic piece, but the green flag with crescent can be good too.

Better quality:



Anyhow, Zxc said that he wants to finish the map, and then see if he has the memory for aesthetic things like this.

I think another interesting idea would be to put the current country's ruler on the map instead. The information would be more certain and easier to find.

Add me to the test map of there is still a free spot zxc

Okay, it looks like there are a few things to clear u, so I will explain.

Firstly, there is still one more test game to do when all the territories have been completed, so you still sign up.

Secondly, I will be adding flags and coats of arms, but they take up a lot of memory, which makes the map take ages to upload to WarLight when I update it, so I've saved them on a different document and will put them back in to the map at the end.

If I may, just found some mistakes:

In Southwestern France, that "Aune" region does not exist, Gascony or in French "Gascogne" would be more appropriate, and "Lannemezan" and "Auch" were part of it, and Béarn (or Pau, capital of Béarn as you named it in your map) was appart of France until 1620 as a sovereign state remnant of the Kingdom of Navarre. But you can add it to Gascogne since it is considered as part of historical Gascony

Territories of France before 1790 similar during the 30 years war (kingdom of France, ancient regime)



French territorial evolution during the 30 years war:


Edited 3/15/2015 16:21:58

Yeah, this map isn't really 1618. It's more like somewhere between 1625 and 1635, so the thing with Navarre should be okay.

No but I mean the region you named as Aune does not exist and never existed, Idk where you found it lol

I sign up for new test game.

Also suggest some name changes in Transylvania. Uzhorod, Munkacheve, and Khust are misplaced too south, Oradea too north.

I think would be more accurate with these names:

Baraolt - Brassó
Agnita - Szeben
Deva - Déva
Timisoara - Temesvár
Sighisoara - Udvarhely
Blaj - Gyulafehérvár
Lipova - Arad
Praid - Beszterce
Turda - Torda
Cluj-Napoca - Kolozsvár
Abrud - Gyalu
Ineu - Bihar
Baia Spire - Radna
Gherla - Zilah
Oradea - Debrecen
Rakhiv - Máramaros
Khust - Szatmár
Munkacheve - Szabolcs
Uzhorod - Nyíregyháza
Nadvirna - Huszt
Svaliava - Munkács
Turka - Ungvár
Holyatyn - Beregszász
Dubrynchi - Miskolc
Bieszczadzki - Kassa

These names look very Hungarian. Remember, this is Romania.

I would love to test this map, it looks awesome!

Sure, I'll put you on the list.

Sweet! This is the first map I'll test!

Жұқтыру remember this is the historical Principality of Transylvania. Roughly its half part of present day Romania, other half part of present day Ukraine, Slovakia, and Hungary. The main nationalities in this time were romanians, hungarians, saxon-germans, ruthenians, and less slovakians, serbs, bulgarians, cumans, tartars. Some cities like Miskolc, Nyíregyháza, Debrecen and the Szeklerland were certainly hungarians and there are still up to now. Uzhorod, Munkacheve, and Khust are and were ruthenian, Kassa is and was slovakian. After the turkish wars in the 18. century the Habsburgs relocated more germans and the immigration from Wallachia and Moldova led to romanian majority. So basically it was a multiethnic region. I suggested hungarian names because the principals (Bethlen, Báthory, Rákóczi dinasties) were hungarians, the noble class were the szekler hungarians and the saxon citizens.

As I saw zxctycxz used turkish names everywhere under turkish administration, this is why I thought these names would be better. And as I wrote there are some geographically misplaced city like Uzhorod, Munkacheve, Khust, and Oradea.

I can make a more precise list where the names depend on population majority. But actualy this present version can be good too just not as accurate as it could be.

1 thing I'd like to suggest is dividing HRE in 2 parts, Catholic and Protestant, just because this war happened mostly because of hostility between those 2 parts.

Excellent idea, Lionheart.

Also, let's let ZXC decide. Although Hungarian was the nobility name, Romanian was the most popular name.

you can use "province" instead of "Eyalet" in Turkey.same mean

ed2: check Novgorod and Rostov and Russia is invisible

ed3: check http://imgur.com/xn5QVSM there are some problem specialy Istanbul,Edirne and Gelibolu and dont forget Istanbul Strait.

Canakkale =>Galiopoli
Tekirdağ and Kırklareli are old pieces of Edirne

Ferecik Vasilikoz and Hasköy are in false places. They are Grecee's provinces but they are in Ottoman's zone

ed4:i think you have not use colonies, its almost great.Colonies make it complicated to playing comfort.Map already have too many territory. Game in game is not good idea for me.simplicity is beauty

Edited 3/16/2015 14:44:35

Also, one thing that's been bothering me:

You put the dot in Izmir, but not in Istanbul. Either don't put a dot on either them, or put a dot on both them.

I think in the 17. century Principality of Transylvania lived 1-2 million people. 20% romanians in Ardeal, 20% german-saxons in Siebenbürgen, 20% hungarians in Szeklerland and the west, 10% ruthenians in north, 5% slovakians in north-west, and also serbians in south-west, cumans and tartars everywhere, not easy to search authentic names indeed.

Urfang and Жұқтыру: I'm fairly on the fence about whether to use Hungarian or Romanian, I'll come to a decision at some point.

Lionheart: I'm going to make some religious bonuses for th map as a whole once I finish making territories.

Tyrcae: They will be accessible soon, but I haven't finished making all the territories yet.

Жұқтыру: Whenever I research it, Izmir always seems to have the dot, but I never see Istanbul with the dot, are you sure it needs one?

realy i dont understand dots why you dont draw it normaly