à Julius's last comment:

I never resort to insult unless I have been insult. Slinging mud, you'll get dirty. Also, your facts are as backed up as mine are. Never said Islam was a wholely peaceful religion. It's a pretty peaceful religion though. You're not supposed to follow the Quran to the letter, as you're not supposed to follow the Bible to the letter (thank goodness we don't have all these Christian sepatarists killing everyone with jawbones). But to the US, there's almost no harm if US stops choffing teacups with prince Abdullah in Saudi Arabia and other major activity there. Unless some American publishes something offensive and famous.

à Skourby:

Glad I make a convincing Chinese, but believe it or not, I'm not. It's facts, not nationalism, most likely in everyone who's arguing about me cases (definitely you), you are nationalist. And if I was, you'd be somewhat offensive. I don't call you too busy skipping school despite that you're American.

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We didn't invade for oil, that's just a convenient scapegoat for the liberals to use when they have to come to grips with the fact that they voted to go into Iraq too.

Then tell me, why has the US invaded the wrong country? Most of the hijackers of the September 11 were Saudi Arabian. It would take more resources, but it would actually solve the problem, according to your logic.

because Iraq was a state sponsor of Terrorism, Saudi Arabia was not. Iraq had WMDs Saudi Arabia did not, Iraq was a place for terror to hide, Saudi Arabia, with American help, is doing its best to rid terror from within its borders. They follow a strict Wahabbanism. It is a relatively reclusive version of the Sunni branch. However, Islamic law is supposed to be used under this form of Islam, yet the Saudi people enjoy most of the rights of an American, short of voting for their leader seeing as the have a king. only minor cultural differences separate the people of Saudi Arabia from us. They hate terrorism as well, seeing as tourism could become a big thing in that country in the near future.

Tsh...WMDs. I thought it was universal that Iraq had no such thing nor was planning to build them. The power of propoganda is stronger than universal knowledge, though. Were WMDs found? Here, listen to Nigel Farage talk about this. He mentions it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX3E2jTsEwc
Let the truth that Iraq did not have WMDs sink in.

American help...more like Americans love dealing with some absolute monarchies that supply them, like Saudi Arabia. Also, Wahabbanism is the branch of Islam that encourages spread of Islam and living like Muhammed did the most; the hijackers were Wahabbi.

yet the Saudi people enjoy most of the rights of an American

Totally...

For your future comment:

yet the male Saudi people enjoy most of the rights of an American*

Totally...

The one saving grace for Saudi Arabia is that it is generally free from ethnic xenophobia, although it's over 90% Arab and that it has been free from the Arabic bedlam.

The average Muslim hates terrorism. The average Iraqi would not succumb to terrorism, although they might encourage and revere the terrorists (post-2001).

Countries rarely support terrorism, and certainly not within it's own borders. And none of the Middle Eastern countries do, except in recent times, with the riots (if you call that terrorism) and minimal involvement in Syria.

Saddam didn't support terrorism as well, he was just off on his own, making his people too busy or too dead to think about terrorism.

EDIT: I'm glad it's skourby's bedtime, it's even more nationalistic than you are.

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I think if more people in America were better educated politically, our national system would run much better. After the ensuing revolution.
Government wouldn't want to lose their monopoly on an entire nation though ; so they pillow up Americans so that they never care to look at what's going on.

Most obvious Government brainwashing : Pledge of Allegiance. I myself had learned it within a few days of Primary school, without knowing what it even meant.
If you ask the average Nazi or Dog Whisperer, you'll know a behavior becomes a personality or belief. Say, think or hear something enough, and you will absorb that nation and take it to heart.
That said, I do believe in this nation. It's a great nation. I don't believe in the government though. I wish we were back in the days of Democratic-Republicans ; so much progress, so much one-party system.

What is a Dog Whisperer?

Dog Whisperers are people who are strongly akin with canines/dogs. They can use this skill to help train your dog, they can " communicate " with dogs ( the trademark whispering into the dog's ear grants them their moniker ) and they can befriend dogs easily.

Firstly, Russia is growing, it's slowing down, though. We have looked at economy and military and I've explained. The United States is buying things with money it doesn't own (I don't know why, even if you're destitute, don't spend money that you're going to repay). US is the major importer, but China is the major exporter, save North and Central America.

Your one saving grace is that US is a better place to live in.

For the last time, is it too much to ask for the americans, chinese and russians here to go somewhere else to play their little game of "who's got the biggest dick" ?

Show a little decency for once...

Julius Caesar, don't you know that the USA trained Al-Qaeda and gave them money to fight? And that Saudi Arabia sponsors a lot of terrorism? They help Islamic State in war against Iraq and Syria. In fact, when dictators were ruling Iraq, Syria, Libya etc., those countries were safe. The governments had power to destroy terrorist groups before they were grown.

And this is a topic about shootings, so I'll explain my point of view:
I think that capital punishment for those "journalists" was wrong idea. They should be flogged (it's not possible in France at this moment) or put in prison. But. In some places in France, the UK, Germany sharia law is accepted. Even German courts sentence criminals to different punishments if they were acting as sharia law says (for example - for "honor killing" muslims go to prison for less years). It's accepted also in Paris. So this murder was bad but it was still legal.

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Islam=religion of no peace. (It doesn't matter what most Islams do or don't or support their religion isnot peaceful)

Oh, and yea I guess I did bring an irrelevant subject. I thought since this thread is about the shootings in France some peoppeople would
D be like"Islam=peaceful" but no it isnt

For fucks sakes Xypapy we're way past that argument
*duck tapes Xypapys mouth and puts him in a rocket that launches to Venus*
YA know, it's ironic how that rocket was MADE IN AMERICA BITCH

All right, now that he's taken care of, let's finally talk about Russia and the EUs influence in the Middle East.

You also started talking about american political education and how it is quite bad. The truth is that most Americans are much more in to politics than any country. And most people say the American education system is bad, but it is actually very good. Look at the top two countries in education: Finland and South Korea. Now, we all know how fucked up South Koreans is, so most people say that we should adopt the Finnish education system, but that won't work, and here's why: The Finnish system is deeply rooted in its culture, and Finnish cultur is one of the most unique in the world by far. If it is brought to the US, it would give the impression that there is some kind of social net to fall into, when there really isn't. That would lead to less jobs and lots of alcoholics and drug users.

Great argumentation. Now I'll employ a tactic you used: Can't you admit that you've lost the argument?

Anyhow, to your second comment:

Russia has a couple bases in the Middle East, but is trying to stay uninvolved, save for supplying
weapons to the government forces. If it did try to get involved, woe.

Don't mix up EU with NATO. EU doesn't really want anything in the Middle East. NATO is the one that wants things in the Middle East. Anyhow, the European side of NATO, France and UK are just willing to go wherever the US goes and rarely do the other countries do anything.

Also, that's not what I was arguing, but I'll defend Genghis's view. Americans get plenty of political education, along with the relevant propaganda; ie US always is noble and tries to help the poor countries. You and Julius are a product of this. The US school system is decent when it comes to other matters.

And what's wrong with adopting South Korean school system? It's hardcore, no nonsense. But that wouldn't solve the problem, adopting a different kind of education system.

The US trained the Mujaheddin, not Al-Queda, yes it was made up of the same people, including Osama. But, the US had less intelligence networking in the Mid east at that time and the Mujaheddin were fighting back against the Russian Army, so it was made out to seem like the right thing to do. I don't believe we should have, but now we are trying to deal with our own mistake.
Also the middle eastern countries may have been "stable" under dictatorships, but the people were oppressed, Iraqis were getting slaughtered by their own government. Syrians faced the same thing from the Government in Damascus. Libya was never safe, it was always on the verge of revolution so I don't know your facts there.

I think that capital punishment for those "journalists" was wrong idea. They should be flogged (it's not possible in France at this moment) or put in prison. But. In some places in France, the UK, Germany sharia law is accepted. Even German courts sentence criminals to different punishments if they were acting as sharia law says (for example - for "honor killing" Muslims go to prison for less years). It's accepted also in Paris. So this murder was bad but it was still legal.

Really? you think they should have been flogged for exercising their rights guaranteed to them in the French constitution? I see that you are merely no better than most of the mold able minds being slowly turned to the Sharia way of thinking. The European Governments should never have allowed sharia law to be established for the Muslims, it sets a precedent. They live in France, Germany, The UK, etc. They need to follow those countries rules, not their own, if they do not like it they are welcome to return to their home country, or their parents home country.

OMFG XYPAPY JUST SHUT UP. NOBODY WANTS YOU HERE

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Also the middle eastern countries may have been "stable" under dictatorships, but the people were oppressed,

What does it matter, it's stable. That's all you need to know.