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Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/6/2015 04:42:55


Pushover 
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Lets do another update!

GROUP A
Master Miyagi (4-1)
Krzychu (4-2)
Tenshi (3-2)
timon92 (3-2)
Frankdeslimste (2-3)
grona (2-4)
Ineffable (1-5)

Group A is coming down to the wire! Only two games left, Frank vs Tenshi and Miyagi vs Timon! Any of the top 4 players can win it at this point. Meanwhile, Frank must win his final game if he wants to avoid relegation.

GROUP B
FlyingBender (4-1) - WINNER
Orange (3-2)
Old Surehand (2-2)
Mirror (2-2)
Pushover (2-3)
Heyheuhei (1-4) - Inactive, will be removed next season

Unfortunately B stands for Boot this season. Put this into perspective: 3 of my 5 games ended in boots! (Both my wins came from boots -_-) A shame this group couldn't have been more competitive. Orange, despite booting to me in his final game, still wins the tiebreakers and will promote to group A. Note that Old Surehand, should he boot in this group's final game against Mirror, will also be declared inactive.

GROUP C
Niko (4-1)
Falker (4-2)
Jefferspin (4-2)
Metatron (2-1)
Timinator (1-3)
Marechal Lannes (1-3)
JV (0-4)

This is proving to be a very tough group! Niko can clinch first with a win over Metatron, whereas a loss could open up interesting tiebreak situations. JV's final games versus Timinator and Marechal Lannes could be instrumental in deciding who relegates.

GROUP D
his balls (4-0) - WINNER
Andersault (3-2)
Beren Erchamion (2-2)
Master Bjarke (1-2)
ferede (1-2)
Kevin#1 (1-4)

Congrats to his balls for winning group D! Given the attrition in group B (2-3 players dropping out), it's likely that this performance will put him into B next season. ferede is in an interesting position, as 2 losses can put him into last place but two wins can put him into second.

GROUP E - FINISHED
Bigchps147 (4-1) - WINNER
rocky1 (3-2, 1-0)
Darkpie (3-2, 0-1)
Riyamitie (2-3, 1-0)
GeneralGror (2-3, 0-1)
bobbob000 (1-4)

With a win in his final game, Riyamitie avoids last place.

GROUP F - FINISHED
The Turtle (4-0) - WINNER
Kasparov (3-1)
Master ARC (1-3, 1-0)
ARand0mPlayer(1-3, 0-1)
Jackie Treehorn (1-3) - inactive, will be removed from league

GROUP G - FINISHED
Master Atom (5-1, 1-0) - WINNER
smileyleg (5-1, 0-1)
Polakillo (4-2)
ChrisCMU (3-3)
Vortex (2-4, 1-0)
BlacKnight (2-4, 0-1)
aper (0-6) - inactive, will be removed from league

GROUP H1
Master of the Dead (5-0) - WINNER
Noobschool (3-1)
Verzehrer (3-2)
Dr. Walter Ego (2-2)
ALE (1-4)
sobedai (0-5)

Congrats to Master of the Dead for going undefeated and winning group H1 over some good competition! If Noobschool loses to Dr. Walter Ego in the final game of the group, there will be an unbreakable tie for 2nd place.

GROUP H2
ps (5-0) - WINNER
Ollie (3-2)
Don (2-2)
ChristophU (2-3)
Roooob (1-3)
Pablo Garcia (0-3)

Ollie clinches second place with his win over ChristophU. I previously erroneously listed Pablo Garcia as inactive, but he is active in his final two games so far (the only games left in the group). If he boots, though, then he will be removed from the league.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/10/2015 23:39:34


Ragnarok
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Hello, I'd like to join!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/11/2015 07:58:33


Krzysztof 
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Any of the top 4 players can win it at this point

Nope, i can't :<
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/11/2015 17:49:06


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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Pushover, I'm sure you know this, but you are awesome for doing all the updates.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/11/2015 18:52:46


Jefferspin 
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^^
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/11/2015 19:26:03


his balls. 
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Dont think its fair for me to jump two leagues. Just push an extra one from c up. It was those in c who beat me last season
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/11/2015 19:40:59


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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So far we've had super-promotions every season, so don't worry about it being fair.
(spoiler alert: it is)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/12/2015 10:58:32


ps 
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Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/12/2015 16:32:58


DrKrieger
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Any openings to join the tournament?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/18/2015 06:35:39


Pushover 
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Current list of new player requests for Season 16:

Alias09
Thomas 633
Auroch
trexmix
J0twe
Death
"DJidAnE"
[Falcon] Colonel Harthacanute
The Glorious Koala
Peixoto
DrKrieger
Oh Noes
MightySpeck
master of desaster
linberson

As for updates, a few more groups have finished but we're still waiting on A and C

GROUP A
Master Miyagi (4-1)
Krzychu (4-2)
Tenshi (3-2)
timon92 (3-2)
Frankdeslimste (2-3)
grona (2-4)
Ineffable (1-5)

Group A still has two games left. Frank vs Tenshi is in turn 8, and Miyagi vs Timon is in turn... 19! Wow! After considering this group more carefully, Krzychu is right: he can't win any possible tiebreaker for first place. Tenshi might have a chance, but I'm too lazy to calculate for sure. What is sure though is that Miyagi will win the league with a win over timon.

GROUP B - FINISHED
FlyingBender (4-1) - WINNER
Orange (3-2, 1-0)
Old Surehand (3-2, 0-1)
Mirror (2-3, 1-0)
Pushover (2-3, 0-1)
Heyheuhei (1-4) - Inactive, will be removed next season

Old Surehand manages to *just barely* avoid being considered inactive for the second straight season; his win over Mirror gives him third place.

GROUP C
Niko (4-1)
Falker (4-2)
Jefferspin (4-2)
Metatron (2-2)
Timinator (2-3)
JV (1-4)
Marechal Lannes (1-4)

Timinator has beaten Metatron, and JV beat Marechal Lannes. The three remaning games are Metatron vs Niko (turn 10), Metatron vs Marechal Lannes (turn 10), and JV vs Terminator (turn 9). JV, Timinator, Metatron, and Marechal Lannes are all fighting against relegation. Niko wins the group with a win over Metatron.

GROUP D - FINISHED
his balls (5-0) - WINNER
Andersault (3-2, 1-0)
Beren Erchamion (3-2, 0-1)
Master Bjarke (2-3)
Kevin#1 (1-4, 1-0)
ferede (1-4, 0-1)

ferede chooses the two-loss option and gets relegated; his balls goes undefeated.

GROUP E - FINISHED
Bigchps147 (4-1) - WINNER
rocky1 (3-2, 1-0)
Darkpie (3-2, 0-1)
Riyamitie (2-3, 1-0)
GeneralGror (2-3, 0-1)
bobbob000 (1-4)

GROUP F - FINISHED
The Turtle (4-0) - WINNER
Kasparov (3-1) - Withdrawing from the league
Master ARC (1-3, 1-0)
ARand0mPlayer(1-3, 0-1)
Jackie Treehorn (1-3) - inactive, will be removed from league

GROUP G - FINISHED
Master Atom (5-1, 1-0) - WINNER
smileyleg (5-1, 0-1)
Polakillo (4-2)
ChrisCMU (3-3)
Vortex (2-4, 1-0)
BlacKnight (2-4, 0-1)
aper (0-6) - inactive, will be removed from league

GROUP H1 - FINISHED
Master of the Dead (5-0) - WINNER
Noobschool (4-1)
Verzehrer (3-2)
Dr. Walter Ego (2-3)
ALE (1-4)
sobedai (0-5)

Noobschool doesn't disappoint, and wins his final game to clinch second place.

GROUP H2 - FINISHED
ps (5-0) - WINNER
Ollie (3-2, 1-0)
Don (3-2, 0-1)
ChristophU (2-3, 1-0)
Roooob (2-3, 0-1)
Pablo Garcia (0-5) - inactive, will be removed from league

Pablo Garcia boots and dies.

Edited 3/26/2015 06:17:57
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/18/2015 11:48:31

Oh Noes
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Pushover, can you add me to the list of new player requests for the next season? Cheers!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/18/2015 12:26:40

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ferede chooses the two-loss option and gets relegated; his balls goes undefeated.



I read this first as, "Despite ferede himself losing twice, his balls managed to go undefeated."
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/18/2015 21:44:08


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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OOOOO sign me up for the next season please :)!!!!!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/19/2015 05:38:26


Pushover 
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A minor update concerning an awesome group C...

GROUP C
Jefferspin (4-2) - WINNER by virtue of tiebreak clusterfuck
Niko (4-2)
Falker (4-2)
Metatron (3-3)
Timinator (2-3)
Marechal Lannes (2-4)
JV (1-4)

Metatron has beaten Niko... but lost to Marechal Lannes, kicking him out of the running for the top 3. And so it's a three way tie at the top, tied further when using head-to-head as a tiebreaker. And so it comes down to the dreaded second tiebreaker...

A tie-breaking tournament then takes place unless all the players involved agree to otherwise settle the tie. Where a tie-breaking tournament would delay the league too much, average turn-speed is rewarded to resolve such ties.


No, damn it, not this one. Fraaaank, you forgot to change the copypasted text! I mean this one:

Both group I's had a tie for 2nd place and in both groups only 2 of the 3 in the tie got promoted. Here's how I resolved it and will continue to do so in the future.

I looked at the players they beat outside the tie, so in group I1 it's:

Bananashake: 5th - 6th - 7th
Master Bjarke: 5th - 6th - 7th
Swimming Potato: 1st - 6th - 7th

I add all of them together and the player with the lowest score win. The Swimming Potato therefor gets number 2 spot since he beat the number 1,6 and 7 (= 14) which is better that 5, 6 and 7 (= 18). Bananashake and Master Bjarke are still tied though so I looked their result against eachother, Master Bjarke beat Bananashake so gets 3th and Bananashake 4th.


See http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=30139&Offset=20 for original post

...So lets take a look at each player's 3 wins outside their tie

Niko - Timinator, Marechal Lannes, JV
Falker - Timinator, Marechal Lannes, JV
Jefferspin - Metatron, Timinator, JV

Now attention turns to the remaining game in the group, Timinator vs JV, still on turn 9. The winner of this game gets to stay in group C, while the loser places in the bottom 2, which is slated for relegation. Timinator relegate? What a group, huh? Marechal Lannes unfortunately lost to both Timinator and JV, so he can't finish higher than 6th.

But how will this final game affect the tie at the top of the group? If Timinator wins, he will place 4th, above Metatron due to head-to-head, and JV will place last. This gives each player the following points (remember, low score wins!)

Jefferspin - 4 + 5 + 7 = 16
Niko - 4 + 6 + 7 = 17
Falker - 4 + 6 + 7 = 17

If Timinator loses?

Jefferspin - 4 + 6 + 7 = 17
Niko - 5 + 6 + 7 = 18
Falker - 5 + 6 + 7 = 18

What this means is that the winner of group C has already been decided! Congrats to Jefferspin! Niko places 2nd by head-to-head. Therefore, assuming 2 relegation spots, both Falker and Timinator will fail to promote in what ended up being a fiercely competitive group! Who would have bet that at the beginning of the season?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/19/2015 07:23:19


Deadman 
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Oh dear god that was messy!

Jeff, can you never win properly!!? Like EVER :P
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/19/2015 08:03:08


master of desaster 
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Could i rejoin next season? I missed that season but i'm back now for good.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/19/2015 12:49:47


Jefferspin 
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De-fault! De-fault! De-fault!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/23/2015 01:46:27


Pushover 
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More updates...

GROUP A
timon92 (4-2)
Krzychu (4-2)
Master Miyagi (4-2)
Tenshi (3-2)
Frankdeslimste (2-3)
grona (2-4)
Ineffable (1-5)

timon92 has beaten Miyagi after 24 turns.... due to a boot. I think timon had an advantage but I doubt Miyagi meant to surrender that turn. Very tough loss for Miyagi. Meanwhile, the win for timon has put him into first place via tiebreaker, with Krzychu in second and Miyagi in third.

However there is one final game remaining, Tenshi vs Frank (turn 11). If Tenshi wins, how would the standings look?

Tenshi (4-2, 2-1, 1-0)
timon92 (4-2, 2-1, 0-1)
Krzychu (4-2, 1-2, 1-0)
Master Miyagi (4-2, 1-2, 0-1)

Therefore, Tenshi can win the league with a win over Frank, otherwise timon92 will win the league. Aside from the 5-way tie last season, this would be the first time either player has won.

The final game is important for our dear league administrator as well: he must win to avoid relegation, due to having previously lost to grona! This also means that either grona or Frank (each 2-time outright winners) must relegate.

GROUP C - FINISHED
Jefferspin (4-2, 1-1, 15) - WINNER
Niko (4-2, 1-1, 18, 1-0)
Falker (4-2, 1-1, 18, 0-1)
Metatron (3-3)
JV (2-4, 2-0)
Timinator (2-4, 1-1)
Marechal Lannes (2-4, 0-2)

JV has beaten Timinator by boot, though JV had the advantage when the boot occurred. This means that JV earns safety from relegation, while Timinator threatens to relegate having finished 6th.

Edit: I went through an unofficial promotion/relegation scenario, and due to dropouts from B I did not have Timinator relegating, though Frank obviously makes the official decision there.

Edited 3/23/2015 02:14:40
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/23/2015 02:13:39


linberson 
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I would like to join the next season, please.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 15: 3/23/2015 14:27:47


butterfly94 
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I'd like to join the next season
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