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Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/22/2014 03:56:37

JSA 
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1. Szeweningen: 6-0 (beat Dom365, Taisho, EZPickens)
2. Yves: 5-0 (beat Nomercy, Bigchps)
3. Mike: 7-0 (beat Braak, GreenTea)
4. Ruthless Bastard: 7-0 (beat Jehovah, Vortex)
5. Angry Birds: 7-0 (beat Latnox)
6. Summer: 7-0 (beat Surehand, Oh Noes)
7. C-17: 7-0 (beat Taisho)
8. TeddyFSB: 7-0 (beat Heyheuhei)
9. Tenshi: 6-0
10. Lord Syvedas: 7-0 (beat Turtle, Juvenille Deliquant)
11. ACL Tears: 3-0
12. Jackie Treehorn: 7-0 (beat Flyingbender)
13. timon92: 4-0 (beat General Charles)
14. Flyingbender: 7-1 (beat Timinator, ps, EZPickens, Niko; lost to Jackie Treehorn)
15. Master Adrianokx: 6-0 (beat dwoogee)
16. Darkpie: 5-0 (beat Chris37 and Bananashake)
17. MG: 5-0 (beat Vendetta)
18. JV: 4-0
19. Pushover: 6-0 (beat Jefferspin and ps)
20. ollie: 6-0 (beat Niko)
21. Ineffable: 4-0
22. Math Wolf: 4-0
23. Latnox: 6-1 (beat Oh Noes; lost to Angry Birds)
24. Gol D. Rogers: 4-0 (beat Verzeher)
25. Kappa: 7-1 (beat Frankdeslimste, abr, Verzeher; lost to Taisho)

Players that are close to being ranked:
Orange (3-0), El Diablo (7-0), Apollo (4-0), Robin Hood (5-0), Old Surehand (4-1), Vendetta (5-1), Longhouse (7-1), Frankdeslimste (3-1), dwoogee (7-1), Gambler (6-1)

I now see 26 undefeated players with 3 games or more that have been won. Interesting start to the season. Timinator dropped two games to two very talented players (dwoogee, Flyingbender) who both also lost to a previously unranked player. Szeweningen has solidified his #1 ranking with 3 good wins already, the most out of any of the undefeated players. Jackie Treehorn and master Adrianokx are both guys to keep an eye on; both beat very skilled players who would have likely been in the top 10 if they had not been upset by Jackie and Adrianokx.

The game Szeweningen mentioned is very entertaining. Excellent play down the stretch from Yves.

Edited 11/22/2014 04:01:41
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/25/2014 13:25:35


AJordy_
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As i like this map i hope i can finally show that i'm good enough to get nice and high. :)
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/26/2014 18:41:10

JSA 
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1. Szeweningen: 7-0 (beat Dom365, Taisho, EZPickens, C-17)
2. Yves*: 7-0 (beat Nomercy, Bigchps, El Diablo, Old Surehand)
3. Angry Birds*: 8-0 (beat Latnox, dwoogee)
4. Ruthless Bastard: 7-0 (beat Vortex, Jehovah)
5. TeddyFSB: 9-0 (beat Flyingbender, Heyheuhei)
6. Summer: 8-0 (beat Old Surehand, Oh Noes)
7. Darkpie: 8-0 (beat Turtle, Chris37, Bananashake, Ineffable, Vendetta)
8. Lord Syvedas: 7-0 (beat Juvenile Deliqument, Turtle)
9. MG: 7-0 (beat GreenTea, Vendetta)
10. Orange: 6-0 (beat JSA)
11. Jackie Treehorn: 7-0 (beat Flyingbender)
12. Pushover: 8-0 (beat Jefferspin, Mirror, ps)
13. ollie: 7-0 (beat Niko)
14. Gol D. Roger*: 8-0 (beat Jefferspin)
15. Math Wolf: 5-0
16. JV: 4-0
17. Robin Hood: 5-0 (beat Silver)
18. Rento: 5-0
19. NoobSchool*: 9-1 (beat Roob, Flyingbender, Latnox, Vendetta; lost to Mirror)
20. Longhouse: 10-1 (beat Latnox, Mike, Vortex; lost to Vendetta)
21. [Bajitan] nightfly: 8-2 (beat Flyingbender, Bigchps, Tenshi; lost to Yves, Latnox)
22. Deadman: 5-1 (beat Gambler, Arkanton, QB; lost to Bigchps)
23. dwoogee: 8-2 (beat C-17, Timinator; lost to Adrionlox, Angry Birds)
24. EZPickens: 7-2 (beat Mike, Gambler, GreenTea; lost to Szeweningen, Flyingbender)
25. Kappa*: 7-1 (beat Frankdeslimste, lost to Taisho)

Players that are close to being ranked:
Kryzchu (9-2), Juvenile Delinquent (9-2), Tenshi (7-1), Ineffable (4-1), timon92 (5-1), Adrionokx (6-1), Hornacek (6-1), Grinche (7-1), CONQUISTADORS (6-1), Mike (7-2)
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/27/2014 02:00:44


his balls. 
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I know I've been playing this a while now but sometimes the ranking systems are so confusing. How is taisho above teddy right now? Is it purely unlucky that teddy has only played low ranked players? Or is there a way to maximise your chances of playing higher ranked players?

Oh yeah. What does the star mean next to some players in your list?

Edited 11/27/2014 02:04:15
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/27/2014 02:37:56


Beren Erchamion 
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I assumed the star meant an alt, but then NoobSchool had a star...
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/27/2014 03:19:38


Deadman 
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@his balls
On observing the seasonal ladder(for 1.5 seasons), I believe the rating system awards points based on a number of factors.

Some which I'm almost certain of:
- Number of games you are currently active in.
- the rating of players you have beaten.
- the number of days you have been on the ladder.(I know this because I was keeping pace with most players with similar records, but had to leave the ladder for a few days and have now fallen behind)
- the date you join the ladder(which ties in with the above point as well)

Teddy is behind because he joined this season a bit late.

To maximize your chances of playing higher rated players, you must join early, win your initial games and stay on the ladder.
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/27/2014 03:31:21

JSA 
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There is a star next to alts and accounts that are being played by another player. NoobSchool has not been on warlight in the last couple months; someone else is playing his games currently.

And yeah, it's a big disadvantage if you face poor players early in the seasonal, or if you play a good player who then drops out very soon afterwards. I think Ottoman Emperor had the best record one season, but because he joined late, he ended up outside of the top 10.
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/27/2014 08:26:47


Krzysztof 
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As far i remember Widzisz won all 20 games, but because he joined lately, his opponent's were quite weak and he was low in the final ranking.
However,

- Number of games you are currently active in.
- the rating of players you have beaten.
- the number of days you have been on the ladder.(I know this because I was keeping pace with most players with similar records, but had to leave the ladder for a few days and have now fallen behind)
- the date you join the ladder(which ties in with the above point as well)


That's not true.
Seasonal work almost the some way like 1v1 and 2v2, the one and only difference is that you get 65 points for every* finished games. And that's why ranking looks flawed during the game - finishing game make your rating better - even if you lose.
Also note, that your opponents bonus points didn't count toward your rating - it's better to win against someone who played 5 games and won all of them than someone who played 20 games and lost all of them(despite the later one's rating will be higher). This is because the rating caluclation looks that way:
1. Calculate the ELO rating for all games (as for 1v1 ladder)
2. Apply bonuses points for finsished games


* only for first 20 games, no bonus for finish 21st


edit:

Or is there a way to maximise your chances of playing higher ranked players?

In this case i'm not so sure, but from my observations i would say bonus points didn't matter. So: finish your wins quickly and drag your losses. Can't think about anything besides that.

Edited 11/27/2014 08:36:08
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/27/2014 12:11:55

Ollie 
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I have joined this season before it started and never left. Still undefeated, 7-0, but very unlucky with my opponents. Only player who had a decent rating and chances for better (niko) dropped ladder immediately after i beated him. Think i am the lowest ranked player who is still undefeated...
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/27/2014 12:55:27


his balls. 
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Its as if those guys at the top know something we don't when it comes to getting match ups.
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 11/28/2014 05:55:23


Pushover 
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I'm not really sure what I'm doing to get me good matchups. In the beginning, I guess just finish your games relatively quickly, don't lose, and hope you get lucky? Then once you start getting good matchups maybe delay your play to avoid lowering your rating, continuing to get good matchups?

It's also possible matchups are determined before the number-of-games-not-yet-played penalty comes into play. How else would #16 get paired with #3/4/5?

In the end I try not to think about how the ladder works too much :P
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/6/2014 02:37:29

JSA 
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Szeweningen has been dethroned for the time being. But with only one loss, he is still very much alive and could come back in the season. Yves steps up to take his place at #1 currently. Here are the new rankings:

1. Yves: 9-0 (beat his balls, Lord Syvedyas, Old Surehand, Bigchps, Nomercy, Nightfly, El Diablo)
2. Ruthless Bastard: 8-0 (beat Angry Birds, Jehovah, Vortex)
3. TeddyFSB: 10-0 (beat Turtle, Flyingbender, Heyheuhei)
4. Darkpie: 10-0 (beat his balls, Braak, Vendetta, Turtle, Ineffable, CHRIS37, Bananashake)
5. Summer: 8-0 (beat Old Surehand, Oh Noes)
6. MG: 7-0 (beat GreenTea, Vendetta, Beren)
7. Gol D. Roger: 10-0 (beat El Diablo, Jefferspin, Verzeher, Hypnotic)
8. Pushover: 8-0 (beat Mirror, Jefferspin, ps)
9. ollie: 9-0 (beat Beren, CONQ, Niko)
10. Rento: 10-0 (beat Braak, Robin Hood)
11. Szeweningen: 10-1 (beat C-17, EZPickens, Dom365, Taisho, ARC; lost to Robin Hood)
12. Kappa: 9-1 (beat Gambler, Arkanton, Frankdeslimste, Verzeher; lost to Taisho)
13. Robin Hood: 7-1 (beat Szeweningen, Silver; lost to Rento)
14. Lord Syvedyas: 7-1 (beat Turtle, Juvenille Deliquent, Boston; lost to Yves)
15. Grinche: 9-1 (beat C-17, Angry Birds, Braak, Ryiro; lost to QB)
16. timon92: 10-1 (beat Veelvraat, Jo, Surehand, General Charles; lost to JaponeSafado)
17. Angry Birds: 9-2 (beat NoobSchool, dwoogee, Latnox; lost to Grinche and Ruthless Bastard)
18. NoobSchool: 9-2 (beat Latnox, Vendetta, Flyingbender, JaponeSafado; lost to Mirror and Angry Birds)
19. dwoogee: 10-2 (beat Kryzchu, C-17, Timinator, GOATFINGER; lost to Angry Birds and Master Adrionlox)
20. ACL Tears: 7-1 (beat Dreamworker, JaponeSafado; lost to Arkanton)
21. Kryzchu: 10-3 (beat Arkanton, Gambler, Taisho, Don, Kabelbrand, Jefferspin; lost to dwoogee, Oh Noes, Nomercy)
22. Bananashake: 9-2 (beat Surehand, Mirror, Ultimaratio; lost to Darkpie, Ryiro)
23. Orange: 7-1 (beat JSA; lost to Frankdeslimste)
24. his balls: 10-3 (beat Latnox, Mike, Vortex, Gyver, Ryiro; lost to Yves, Darkpie, Vendetta)
25. GreenTea: 10-3 (beat Timinator, Gambler, Kabelbrand, Taisho; lost to MG, Mike, EZPickens)

Interestingly enough, GreenTea has a few good wins, and has 3 losses. All three of his losses have come to GG members, and none of his wins have been against a GG. Looks like he just needs to avoid the GG's for the rest of the season.

Clans' rankings so far:
Top 3 players from each clan which accounts for the clan's combined rankings:
1. Lynx: 21
2. GG: 39
3. WG: 63
4. WM: 89
5. AHOL: 98
6. Blitz: 129
7. VIW: 150
8. XS: 181
9. Turtles: 201
10. Master: 220

Top 5 players from each clan:
1. Lynx: 63
2. GG: 116
3. WG: 157

So far, this season has been dominated by Lynx, with GG easily doing second best, and WG easily doing third best. Can these clans continue to do as well as they are?
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/17/2014 19:50:34

JSA 
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1. Yves: 11-0 (beat Szeweningen, Darkpie, his balls, Lord, El Diablo, Surehand, Bigchps, nightfly)
2. Summer: 13-0 (beat Teddy, Surehand, Oh Noes)
3. Darkpie: 11-2 (beat Pushover, his balls, Braak, Vendetta, Ineffable, Chris37, Bananashake; lost to Yves and Teddy)
4. MG: 11-1 (beat GreenTea, Ruthless Bastard, Gyver, Vendetta; lost to Phaeril)
5. Grinche: 11-1 (beat ollie, Braak, C-17; lost to QB)
6. Robin Hood: 11-1 (beat Bananashake, Szeweningen, AWOL, Silver; lost to Rento)
7. Math Wolf: 10-1 (beat ps, Silver, C-17, Frankdeslimste; lost to Chris37)
8. Lord Syvedas: 12-2 (beat Jefferspin, Pushover, Jackie Treehorn, Kappa; lost to Yves, Ruthless Bastard)
9. Szeweningen: 12-2 (beat Timinator, C-17, EZPickens, Dom, Taisho; lost to Yves and Robin Hood)
10. Gol D. Roger: 13-1 (beat Teddy, Jackie Treehorn, Juvenille, El Diablo, Jefferspin, Hypnotic, Verzeher; lost to Baroness Amy)
11. ollie: 12-1 (beat Ruthless Bastard, Jackie Treehorn, dwoogee; lost to Grinche)
12. Teddy: 12-2 (beat Rento, Darkpie, Flyingbender, Heyheuhei; lost to Summer and Gol D. Roger)
13. his balls: 13-3 (beat nightfly, noobschool, Kappa, Mike, Vortex, Gyver; lost to Vendetta, Darkpie, Yves)
14. Ruthless Bastard: 10-2 (beat Mike, Lord, Angry Birds, Vortex; lost to MG and ollie)
15. Nightfly: 13-4 (beat Krzychu, HHH, Orange, Gyver, Flyingbender, Tenshi, Bigchps; lost to his balls, JSA, Latnox, Yves)
16. Pushover: 9-2 (beat NoobSchool, Mirror, Jefferspin, ps; lost to Lord, Darkpie)
17. Kappa: 11-4 (beat ACL Tears, Gambler, Arkanton, Frank, Verzeher; lost to Taisho, Lord, his balls, Kryzchu)
18. Frankdeslimste: 10-2 (beat El Diablo, Orange; lost to Math Wolf, Kappa)
19. dwoogee: 10-3 (beat Kryzchu, C-17, Timinator, GOATFINGER; lost to Angry Birds, ollie, Adrionox)
20. Surehand: 11-4 (beat Silver, Ineffable, Dom; lost to Bananashake, timon, Yves, Summer)
21. timon92: 11-2 (beat GOATFINGER, Veelvraat, Surehand; lost to Bananashake, JaponeSafado)
22. Ineffable: 8-3 (beat Phaeril, Vortex, Bjarke; lost to Surehand, Niko, Darkpie)
23. Kryzchu: 12-5 (beat JSA, Kappa, Arkanton, Gambler, Taisho, Jefferspin; lost to dwoogee, Greentea, nightfly, Oh Noes, Nomercy)
24. Orange: 10-4 (beat Tenshi, GreenTea, JSA, El Diablo; lost to nightfly, Dreamworker, insane, Frank)
25. Rento: 12-2 (beat ps, Arkanton, Braak, Robin Hood; lost to Teddy, Mirror)

Top 3 players from each clan:
1. GG: 26
2. Lynx: 29
3. WG: 36
4. WM: 69

Clan Rankings (top 5)
1. Lynx: 76
2. GG: 91
3. WG: 112

Lynx is still doing the best this season, but GG and WG have closed the gap significantly. Can Lynx finish on top or will GG or WG come out as the best clan this season?

Something that makes this competition even more intersting is that 3 seasons ago, GG did the best in Guiroma. 2 seasons ago was Poland and Lynx dominated. Last season, WG won on no-split mode. So in the past four(including this one) seasons, these clans have performed the best.

Edited 12/17/2014 19:53:41
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/19/2014 15:50:56


Rento 
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Looking at Yves' playing speed, he has already lost 3 games, he just doesn't surrender.
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/19/2014 17:26:47


ChrisCMU 
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I hope my clan mates can keep it up. I am languishing in the 70s, so I cannot help them there.
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/20/2014 17:54:46


Rento 
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Aaaaand I was right.
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/20/2014 21:13:32


ARC-77 
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Haha wow. What a scumbag :P

Edited 12/20/2014 21:13:44
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/20/2014 22:20:34


Darkpie 
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Man what a letdown.. That was really some ridiculous stalling
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/20/2014 23:22:01


Rento 
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Does that even help in some way?
Seasonal Ladder Top 25: 12/21/2014 00:27:01


Darkpie 
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You get matched with the highest rated opponents, Win/lose - it's beneficial for your rating
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