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Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 10:55:45

Pulsey
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https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29695850

wtf is this?

how are players allowed to just make these mong templates with so many coins at stake? the template is so niche that the creator just has to have a massive advantage because nobody would be mong enough to come up with such settings

shouldn't creation of coin games be regulated? I know theres the argument of 'nobody forcing you to play', but it still looks predatory as hell

I have nothing against the guy that made the game, man's gotta hustle i suppose
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 11:19:39


JK_3 
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He put all the weird setting in the title, so if someone joins it, its really their own fault.

Besides, players that dont understand some of the settings are probably not rich enough to join anyways.
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 14:30:46


καλλιστηι 
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I strongly suggest not joining any open coin games of templates you don't know. In general, unless it has small coin fee.

Edited 2/4/2022 14:31:03
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 19:02:48

vena
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Why would this be unfair? You can always read the settings. If you don't do that, you can only blame yourself...
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 19:15:55


Norman 
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This template has been voted by the strategic community as one of the most worthwhile templates out there and has been voted to become a quickmatch template, even almost surpassing duel lotto 1.0.

Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 19:26:11

vena
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Lol, lotto has not anything to do with strategic play
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 19:29:05


krinid 
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That's a fairly standard template tbh, or at least I've played a lot of that template lately. Maybe they were all his tourneys? The ones I joined were all free to join. Anyhow, isn't it just SECB as AD instead of manual and with 3 instead of 2 starts? Nothing too exotic.

When joining any coin game, you should definitely read the settings, and certainly anything 100 or more, read them twice. For 3600, you should practice that template a whole bunch before even challenging, or just steer clear of it. Anyone willing to wager 3600 coins in an open game is clearly confident in his own skills.

EDIT: Norman responded to what I was referring to ... so it's a QM template now, so not a niche template. Not as popular as SECB, not in CW, etc, but still fairly popular.

Edited 2/4/2022 19:30:35
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 19:42:33


Max Scherzer 
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so ur saying if you don't understand a player created template, and its made into a coin game, its a hustle? just checking
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 19:44:11


καλλιστηι 
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It is a template created by Jacob the Restless (the host), he tried to get (successfully) many people to vote for the template in QM, that is why the template is in QM.
QM is more of a popularity contest than a good measure of strategicity of given template (*ehm* lotto).
Jacob is a good player and an excellent SE player. He tends to make lots of huge coin games.

Edited 2/4/2022 19:47:01
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 22:50:22

Pulsey
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okay, so the template seems more widespread than I thought, but my point stands

its like those street/carnival games where you try to hang for 2 minutes or toss a ring into a bottle, yes there's nothing hidden and no cheats, but theres something clever in the design (e.g. rolling bar/ring dimension) that makes the game much harder than it looks to the average passerby, even tho all the info is 'out there', an information assymetry exists and those are definitely hustles/scams.

if you cant see my point then theres no point of me further explaining

Edited 2/4/2022 22:51:48
Coin Games Scam?: 2/4/2022 23:07:18


krinid 
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Of course we see the point that the game host has the advantage if you have no experience with the template. You probably can't win the ball-into-the-basket or ring-onto-the-bottle-neck game (etc) just by playing once or twice, nor should you expect to win on a template you've never played before.

But what is your suggestion? That only a handful of templates are acceptable to be made into coin games?

I think it just comes back to this again (pasting from prev note):
When joining any coin game, you should definitely read the settings, and certainly anything 100 or more, read them twice. For 3600, you should practice that template a whole bunch before even challenging, or just steer clear of it, b/c anyone willing to wager 3600 coins in an open game is clearly confident in his own skills.
Coin Games Scam?: 2/5/2022 18:02:07


Jacob the Restless 
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I am not confident, tbh my template Bomb AD is mostly a lotto, so anyone can get good starts and beat me!

And yes, I have left the template name as descriptive as possible for these reasons. It is a weird template and new to most so at least if anyone can read they know they are playing a non standard game.

I like bombcomm obviously, making the template AD was something I did for fun and I enjoy the randomness. A normal pure skill match of bombcomm makes predictable matches. I prefer some chaos, even if it means unfair distributions sometimes. Having played alot of regular AD, I find this template to be less of a coin flip, but that might be my bias speaking ;)

Feel free to practice in QM Bomb AD and come challenge me anytime!
Coin Games Scam?: 2/5/2022 18:15:06


Alien
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maybe I will challenge you if you lower the coin cost. I'm broke lol
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