Figure this will be a topic of interest with the new update so here’s a first pass at what 100,000 AP could look like.

Level 1
+410% Army Camp Boost
+100% Money Cache Boost (max)
+25% Joint Strike (max)
+150% Additional Mercenaries (max)
+4 Statistics
+4 hours Idle Time

Level 2
+5% Auto-Conquer
+100% Increased Cache Resources (max)
-50% Army Camp Discount (max)
-50% Merc Camp Discount (max)
+100% Alloy Sell Value (max)
-50% Crafter Speed (max)
+25% Increased AP (max)

Level 3
+4 Skip Level
+100% Money From Bonuses (max)
+80% Item Sell Value
+3 Market Visibility

Level 4
+50% Better Hospitals (max)
0 minute Auto Draft (max)
-50% Faster Digging (max)

This is far from the end-all-be-all and I expect many would add Army Cache Boost or additional Auto advancements in lieu of Item Sell Value or Army Camp Discount. Nonetheless, a good starting point for discussion.

This comes out to 100,076 AP

wasnt it 100k in just phase 4?

Yes, 100k just in phase 4 alone.

The question becomes, do you do the minimum in each phase, get 100k in phase 4, and then Super Ascend, or is there value in upgrading P1-3 advancements beyond the bare minimums?

Let's exclude the idea of investing hard along the way and doing AP resets as required.

if you dont do resets (cause not everyone has infinite coins), then i guess investing fully in market strat would be the right move.

i dont know how much ap that would be, but probably more than required to unlock P4

Ooof yes of course you guys are right. 100k in Level 4 only.

At minimum, spending “extra” in Level 1 is needed. +25% Joint Strike and +30% Additional Mercs is already at 1,000 AP. I think more mercs is a hard requirement and I assume most would want extra idle time and probably stats too.

Likewise “extra” in Level 2 would happen naturally but it’s close. +25% AP and +100% Alloy Sell Value comes at 9,500 against a 8,000 cap. Maybe you can skimp here and rely on a Legendary or Insane Alloy Sell Value artifact for money generation? You’ve already skipped +100% Money Cache at this point though so money is getting tight

Level 3 you can be quite precise and hit 25,082 AP against a 25,000 cap with:
+2 Level Skip
+80% Money From Bonuses
+80% Item Sell Value
+3 Market Visibility

So it’s really just Level 1 that is the problem. I think the obvious answer is just to spend the coins here honestly.

You need a minimum of 134k AP to do a SAsc.

My strat will involve playing normally until I have enough AP, then resetting AP with 150 coins to push all into Phase 4 for the next SAsc. (I obviously have enough AP to do it now without resetting. This would be for a future SAsc2.)

Suddenly, Fizzer's "get rich quick" scheme is revealed!!!

Edited 11/27/2021 15:44:01

lol Z

It's only "getting rich quick" if you're getting those coins by depositing them with real money. Or taking them from someone who did.