I super ascended twice already so there is more than 15 people. I just forgot this thread existed. I did tech runs on all 17 stages for the achievements so "wasted" a bit of time but it took me 4 weeks (may 1st to may 28th).

Oh wow! Tech run on all new levels! That's impressive.

I did ~8 Tech Runs on the new levels, but they reeeeeeeeeally take a long time (like an extra 4-7 days per level, b/c of crazy crap like smelt 30k copper on a level with no markets, etc) so I got bored and just SAsc'd ... now I'm back to Hex, getting some Adv's ... might take another crack at the remaining levels.

Impressive that Xeno just ran through them all quickly.

Also took me about a month to complete the tech trees of the new levels, the last 2 levels before Hex Earth were the most annoying/long but the other ones were doable.

Yep, the XX years wars were awful but there were enough powers in the level to make it not that bad. I went backwards from Hex to Regio.

5/19/2022 2,000 Achievement: Acquire all techs in the Idle level Hex Earth
5/20/2022 2,000 Achievement: Acquire all techs in the Idle level Thirty Years War
5/20/2022 2,000 Achievement: Acquire all techs in the Idle level Seven Years War
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5/26/2022 2,000 Achievement: Acquire all techs in the Idle level Regio Coquus.

I ended up investing in copper/tin/iron production since it was silly on the lower market less levels. I could have invested in zinc production but I think only 30y war required an obscene amount of it via chromium bars + microchips.

Xeno finally breaks down and invests in Copper & Tin Production! haha

I REFUSE !! (well . . .)

Edited 5/31/2022 18:08:12

Iron was really good at least since on the 1st few levels all my income was basically SM + FC generated a ton of iron bars which I sold the surplus and funded all my mines upgrades. There was 1 level (think it was expedition) were SM+MR was enough to buy all those overpriced mercs which was hilariously unexpected.

Haha but yes I just broke down for copper/tin and made it so the bottleneck was smelting time and not ore production time for the 20,000 to 70,000 bars that were usually needed. This way there was not a second lost when smelting during the single SP TW that I used. A simultaneous level with hard trisk with 1 territory left donated all the TW/FC/SM that were not provided by the level itself lol. I also used 7y and 30y war to provide powers at the start since I'm sure I will never ever do those levels again.

I did 7yw and 30yw twice each ... and 7yw in particular was sooooo obnoxious.

The bonuses are so spread out and so many territories, difficult to even understand what's in the bonus. The territory list is so long that it doesn't populate properly, and can't tell what's not captured yet, etc. Don't think I'll play them again either.

AP Hex Earth

https://ibb.co/XzH0VGt

35.9K!

what % AP bonus from SAsc you have now?

+325%? assuming +25% AP Adv, so 12x +25% AP bonus?

Can you re-SAsv now w/o having to Asc between SAsc's?

That is 225% increased AP so most likely 200% and the 25% from advancements.

200% SAsc , 25% Adv

Ascend, play hardened levels or Netherlands-> Plateau Assault -> Hex Earth

@here what artifacts and advancements did u use to clear the level that quickly (with 99% of stuff coming from caches, I assume u used Insane cache boost artifacts for both money and armies)? Any powers required? (100+ of a single type of power on a single level sounds really crazy, but I guess that’s actly necessary since powers are not renewable)

Edited 6/1/2022 09:52:26

@here in future you might be able to do those 1340 +100 start ap super ascensions to beat the game. At your speed it actually seems realistic because a super ascension will only take minutes and at some point seconds to do.

Tbh, if that option were 1000 AP, I still wouldn't choose it

100 AP is a total non-starter

I'm betting no one has, kind of feels like trading in your house, car and all your belongings and household items (but you get to keep 2 items, like maybe a butcher's knife, a blender, a toaster, a rice cooker...) for a whopping $100 (100 AP)

Well I said in the future, at the point where you can do a SAsc like every hour. If you then grind enough (1340h is still insane) you might be able to do it.

I didn't even unlock fase 4 yet (will soon though) and am already suffering not knowing what to do when I super ASC... I finally "finished" collecting all "usefull" (if upgraded) artifacts and I will have to just go without them all in the end and for what? 0 bonus if i pick an extra slot... feels bad : (

I guess its only worth super asc if you're bored or normal game play and want a reset or when you have really awesome artifacts and legend or insane. I wont have to worry about it any time soon, but I started thinking about it and it kinda sucks. (even worst, losing things like the bigger and more frequent circles for drafting.. that should be default!)

Yeah, I also thought about the different perspectives players might have on super-ascension:
If you think super-ascension is a waste of (spent) time and barely more than a marketing stunt, you will never super-ascend and the question, which reward to pick never arises.
If you plan on doing super-ascensions on a regular basis you will eventually have a good spread of all the rewards. Except, of course, the 100 starting AP, that most players won't ever choose because they clearly pale against all the other options.
But if you only plan to super-ascend once to either "try it out" or just to unlock the new levels, you certainly want to make your choice of reward count. 100 AP is out of the picture again and an additional slot will never apply to you in a meaningful way. So, increased AP or faster digs it is. I guess both are valid options and depend on what you want/need more.

Isn't it just kind of the same thing as starting a new level though?

When you finish an old level and start a new level, you lose all your armies, your mines, your army production, your army camp upgrades. You need to start all over again.

Super-ascension is kind of the same. The only difference is that the cycle is longer. It takes hours to complete a level. It takes weeks to complete a cycle of super-ascension.

I'm not complaining you have to start over since thats the point and happens in all idles. Its just there are things i dont like.

As a newer player im still playing for AP. not for artifacts like older players were. So most of mine are still rare i only have 2 epics, the triple strike (still mad i didnt get the legendary) and a alloy value. That would mean, its not worth super asc until i have 2 or 3 very good artifacts at least legendary. Else it just trowing away all others that i use for very little benifit.

But im just speculating, tbh i dont even remember super asc rules as i havent even unlocked 4th tier (5k ap away)

Anyway TLDR its just super asc is only worth after a certain point in my opinion. Before that point you are just throwing away your artifacts. Especially since used power dont come back and its what i used to help on the firts few runs. That said its still awesome adition to the game. And something i look forward to in the future.

Edit: i understand your point but its not the same as starting a new level. New levels have 0 RNG. artifacts are random and their level is also random. After 2 normal ascensions i finally got the last artifact i wanted that i didnt have. Took a while and theres a chance you simply wont get it for a long time.
You also lose quality of life things (still think "more frequent and bigger" draft circles should be standard and not a reward... Feels like creating a problem and selling a fix). So its a little different but yeah its a restart.

Edited 6/7/2022 12:00:09