Just the "normal" Market Strat really. https://pkmx.github.io/wzi-levels/ is extremely helpful if you're not aware of it already. Once you get into Phase 4 advancements the bottleneck starts to shift to you rather than waiting for stuff (HRome, HScandi, HOT and HFL can all be completed without crafting or waiting for hospitals to upgrade - 20-30 minutes each without powers/actives needed), you can probably go from late Phase 3 to SA in maybe a week if you go hard.

One thing I note is that you're not in a clan though, clan requests help a lot with getting levels started, especially early in a SA.

Good point Mr FP makes, being in an active idle clan means you get lots of clan requests

you can get them in just about any clan, but you get them _quickly_ in active idle clans, in non-active idle clans, you sometimes need to wait 6-18 hrs for someone to fill your req, and sometimes you've already gone past the point where you need that request anymore

as for active idle clans ... TLA & Prime are 2 of the best

Hey, FDC exists!

Fair enough, I amend my statement to:

as for active idle clans ... TLA & Prime are 2 of the best, and FDC exists

Edited 8/21/2023 20:30:56

88th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1000 start ap

89th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1100 start ap


20.44 hrs, with less sleep got my first time under 1 day.

@Ivan, what's your target for Idle now? You've essentially finished the game (maybe ~89 times over?)

You already have everything you need, so hereafter it's just a matter of getting everything you want

Some possible options are ... get all Leg artis (need more dig speed buffs), get highest # of SAsc's (you need about 450 to beat Xeno), or some of the other ridic things like 134k start AP or 1 year of Idle time, etc

For the record, I'm somewhere around 250 but have all insanes; I stopped playing b/c:
(A) there's nothing material left to do
(B) it's been boring/repetitive for the last 200 SAsc's, lol
(C) it's tedious having to keep selecting all the artifacts I want to bring forward, weeding out the P/C/UC's from the R/E/L/I's, knowing that if I make a mistake, I just left (another) Insane behind (suspect I've down this about 4-5 times so far, no idea how many L/E/R's I've accidentally chucked; just too many artis to keep scrolling through and clicking, and once I misclicked the "Super Ascend" button when I was trying to click an arti at the bottom of the list; fortunately I had most of my Insanes selected already, but suspect I lose 2 on that one; even worse is if you only click any 2 artis and then accidentally click Super Ascend, you lose ALL other artis but those 2, regardless of how many carryover slots you have)

Edited 8/23/2023 15:22:21

No real target just go till something else grabs my obsession.

90th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1200 start ap

first super ascend .. opted for 3rd spot went over with leg av and superchargearmycamp plus insane timewarp

91st super +1275%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1200 start ap

I think 134k starting AP, all insane artis, all AP improvements maxed and idle time improvement at +24 hours means you beat the game. Until fizzer invents something new

And to have acquired all achievements related to Idle (tech runs etc)

Wasn't there an income achievement that was impossible to do?

They are all possible. 25mil money per sec is easy on 30y war map, and with ins BMB and TMB aswell as max BMB advancement and BMB/TMB techs, it's technically possible before SAsc on the USA map

all AP improvements maxed and idle time improvement at +24 hours

Reword to "idle time improvement at +24 hours and all other AP improvements maxed" ... and then axe 134k start AP b/c there's 0 value in getting that b/c you've already finished Idle several times over long long long before you do that; it's like saying you aren't "the ice cream master" (replace 'master' with 'superfan' or whatever else you like) unless you've eaten not only some of each flavour of ice cream, but you need to consume an entire 1L+ container of ice cream of every flavour variation produced by each individual ice cream manufacturer globally; in reality, you're the ice cream master hundreds of times over long before you'd every finish such a silly quest

The achievements addition is a good touch, though - that's meaningful and shows true experience within the game, to get each and every one, of which there are many

Wasn't there an income achievement that was impossible to do?

It became impossible for a while after a few Idle updates, then the Achievement was reduced to be possible again

Edited 8/25/2023 19:39:04

If you are truly gangster you will collect enough 25% to super after the first level and enough starting AP to super.

Gonna fix that sentence for you:
If you are truly silly and have nothing else to accomplish in life you will collect enough 25% to super after the first level and enough starting AP to super.

1st level = tutorial = 1.45 AP (I think)

So to get 134k from it you need 54,142 of the 25% buffs

Tutorial has a base AP of 0.23, so like 6 times less

ohhh, even worse, so then like 320,000 of the 25% buffs then, LMAO, good luck with that goal

#officiallyNotGangster