Thank you a lot for your quick responses .

I have stopped a second time Africa, because i don't want to wait to have 200 B with army camp (10 days). I am trying Reconquest 1065, to have +30% platine, with the market-based strategy.

My advice ... if you were far into Africa, just Skip it for now & clear it on your next playthrough. B/c all the AP you earned so far in Africa will NOT BE GRANTED on your next playthrough (but you'll still have to start from the beginning again), it's best to conserve time/AP to just skip now, complete it later.

@krinid: The game remembers that I haven't finished some level EVEN AFTER I ascended? Or have I misunderstood whatever you were saying here? Given that the game resets a lot of things when I ascend, I would have hoped that ascension resets such things as well. In fact I see no reason why this shouldn't be reset at this point in time. Otherwise the whole "all levels give their base AP again"-thing would not be true anymore.

Finally got enough ap and got used to the market strat. Able to complete AEG in 2 days with 11k ap.

Gonna get enough IM's to superpower the Kirovsky camp in EU huge and ascend

@Phoenix
Correct, all is reset post Ascension, so if what I wrote wasn't clear, let me restate:
- For aborted levels, SKIP them and play through to EH.
- Ascend, reset AP.
- Replay the skipped level, it will grant full AP for clearing it instead of partial AP minus the amount you already played on the level pre-ascension.

What is EH, krinid?

Europe Huge

@krinid: okay, then all is fine. Your statement made it sound (to me) that you would take over the partial AP-state of aborted levels.

B/c all the AP you earned so far in Africa will NOT BE GRANTED on your next playthrough

The tricky part here was, what "playthrough" means. Some players use it to mean ascension, that's why I came to my interpretation. But you just meant, if you play it again (within the same ascension). Thanks, for clearing this up.
I guess we should define more (and clear) terminology. I already accepted that (mostly new) players call artifacts "cards". But that doesn't help if everyone uses their own terms to describe something.

so , in Reconquest 1065 : after 23h, not enough mercenarys, not enough money to finish.
It stays 30B to conquer, 5 B mercenary
income 30k/s

join strike and hospital save about half army

@Lord Pal'horde.

If we do not want to draft or rely on army camps, revision 18 Reconquest 1065 might require +120% additional mercs for players who have not reached Phase 4 yet, regardless the strategies they employ.

I suspect that either you wasted too many armies before leveling up all hospitals and getting the hospital techs, or your additional mercs are too low. Since you said "30B to conquer", it might be the former case. You may want to refer to krinid's details. Another solution is to level up all army camps and draft. It we can deplete the sliding drafting pool, then +70% additional mercs might be enough.

I am pretty sure that early levels have more than enough money. With +100% Increased Alloy Sell Values and merc discount techs/advancements, the markets should give enough money to level up all hospitals and purchase all mercs. The only reason why I did not take it in my Africa run was that the scout run I did before showed that the money on revision 17 Africa is enough even without this advancement.

If you can share more information on your failed attempt, then it is more likely to pinpoint the issue that you encountered.

Edited 10/14/2021 17:41:48

My best guess is that if people are running out of money on any levels up to approx China, it's b/c they don't know where the hospitals, merc camps & markets are, and they're expending money buying mercs and exploring various areas of the map instead of pinpointing these 3 buildings.

If you're actually essentially just doing a regular playthrough of the level, then yea, you will likely run out of money. It's important to NOT clear any of the level that isn't on the way to getting all the hospitals, and any mercs or markets that are required in order to achieve that.

After that, get the 'good' Techs, upgrade hospitals, then you should be able to steamroll the level.

But you have to know where stuff is, else you're going to flail around looking for stuff, not find it as quickly as you need to, run out of mercs, drain your markets to buy more mercs, run out of money, then get stuck. And when you get stuck like that, it's not good - it means you haven't built up the level to be a normal playthrough (little to no income from smelting/crafting/etc), and have no more money to start any of that up nor any money to buy mercs with.

Thanks
About my game

i have :
+90 %camp production (+340 before reset AP for strategy market)
+90%mercenaries
6 mercenary camp visibility and 6 market
50% mercenary discount (max)
+60% alloy sell values
+15% item sell value but i think i wasted AP point with that

i have no good artifact for the market strategy. Not possible to find boost value alloy (may we prefer alloy or item?)

there are 134 territories left, 633 taken.

Hospitals save 29M everyewhere

money earned : 365B by the market, on total 384B l

Of course, I take hospitals and upgrade them and wait before to take lots of territories. I have many free territories for free like that.

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Edited 10/14/2021 19:34:30

lack of artifacts doesn't prevent using the market strategy.
You'll still get a great amout of money out of any market

@Lord Pal'horde.

> +90% mercenaries

This is a bit low, but it should not be a big issue if you draft. Otherwise, you need at least +120%.

> +60% alloy sell values

This is not near enough on revision 18 levels. By bringing it up to +100%, you would get almost double the money. By then, you would not have money issue anymore except possibly on the last a few levels. This should be your priority.

> +15% item sell value but i think i wasted AP point with that

There might be markets without alloys. That being said, get additional mercs before investing this.

> i have no good artifact for the market strategy. Not possible to find boost value alloy (may we prefer alloy or item?)

The total money a market provide is a quadratic function in modifiers. The artifact Alloy Values is better since it provides higher modifier at the same rarity and it is easier to get Increased Alloy Sell Values advancement.

> Hospitals save 29M everywhere

This is too low. Upgrade all hospitals to at least level 3 if possible and get the techs Medicine Refinement and Hire Actual Doctors. It would be even better to have a Hospital Boost artifact.

> money earned : 365B by the market, on total 384B l

I do not think this is the profit. The in-game stats do not consider the cost.

27B to upgrade the bigger hospital(+7M saved), i have to wait

i have calculted it was not profitable

I have medecine rafinement +10% but not hire actuel doctor (an no metal sheet to buy it, no in market)

i did not see the limit additional mercenary was +150%, i though +100%.
I'm will change that


About army :
9,6B mercenaries purchased
3,5B from caches
1,6 from camp
2,7B from drafting
4,2B saved with JS
7,1 saved from hospital

it stays 26 B to conquer 113 on visible territories (and a little bit more with14 fogged)

> 27B to upgrade the bigger hospital(+7M saved), i have to wait
>
> i have calculted it was not profitable

Ignore the cost. Always upgrade hospitals to level 3 until you have better artifacts and advancements. It is always infinitely profitable if you run out of mercs at the end.

> I have medecine rafinement +10% but not hire actuel doctor (an no metal sheet to buy it, no in market)

Then, craft it.

> 3,5B from caches

Get the tech "tell your workers that it's cash" before getting caches.

Agree w/everything Functor said. 1 thing I'll highlight: upgrade Alloy Sell Values & Additional Mercs, stop investing in Item Sell Values.

I brought AM to ~100% and ISV to 100% before touching ASV but this was when I was crafting like a madman before the market meta.

Now in the market meta, ISV is way over priced given the value ASV brings. I think every market has at least 1 alloy? And some are only alloys. But ASV is sooo much cheaper. AM is fairly easy to get to 100% and then to 150% takes a bit but is worth it, even necessary for some levels (to finish quickly).

Money Cache is another no brainer. Resource Cache as well. Fairly cheap but good ROI on levels. Army Caches too but that is phase 4 so comes much later.

But it all starts with ASV & AM. If you have a good ASV artifact as well, even better. I'm working on getting my Epic 56% to Leg 112% right now.

Saying Alloy Sell Value or Item Sell Value artifact isn’t necessary is a pretty terrible take tbh. You earn a LOT more from each market with these - not only do you increase the bid-ask spread of every single alloy purchased but you also extend the functional range to get more profitable volume from each market. This is easily proxied by the techs, these “only” give a 15% boost but the impact is significant.

No this isn’t necessary but it’s the single artifact that will help a player who is running-out-of-money the most.

I have not finish "reconquest 1065" : many days to wait.

I reset AP

I am trying "fort harbor" with market strategy

1 day and 7 hours, it is almost finished

Not enough mercenaries with +125%

It stays 3G army to conquer, i earn 0,15G by hours... (maybe 7GB when i finished mercenaries)
Draft helps well to finish.

i have all good tech and more
good hospitals


In french, we say "ne pas mettre tout ses oeufs dans le même panier". Do not put all eggs in the same basket.
With market strategy, we put all AP in this strategy. But i'm not sure it works for the moment



Well, here is the map but is is cheat for other players.

We can delete the link if the big chief want it.

https://ibb.co/mF7b1jk

complete africa
https://ibb.co/jrVskR7
(the other picture https://imgur-com.translate.goog/a/KkCLFY6?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=fr&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=nui helps a little)

Edited 10/16/2021 09:46:53

@Lord Pal'horde.

Earlier levels are not necessarily easier to complete under this strategy. Actually, your choice, Fort Harbor, is one of the worst levels.

I would recommend you to try the levels in the following order, if you know the locations of markets and hospitals.
* Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire
* Australia
* Other early levels except Fort Harbor, Reconquest 1065
* Hardened Far Land
* Hardened Old Town
* Skip Netherlands
* China (could be skipped if you think you can handle Europe Huge)
* Skip Afro-Eurasia Gargantuan
* Skip Triskelion
* United States (could be skipped if you think you can handle Europe Huge)
* Europe Huge

Edit: Before entering Phase 4, we should not expect to finish Europe Huge very quickly. On Europe Huge, we will run out of mercs, we might run out of money, and we have to rely on crating, drafting and army camps.

Edit: Update my recommendation.

Edited 10/16/2021 10:57:07