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Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 23:38:03


Tac(ky)tical 
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well I do enjoy playing seph, and anything for TSFH. #dotgang
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 23:42:18


Ocean0.1 
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<3 Tacky
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 23:48:16


Tac(ky)tical 
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<3 *best* ocean
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 00:23:30


l4v.r0v 
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Given what Norman said, here's the Occam's Razor explanation:
- MASTERs are the best clan on conventional templates so they just play what's good/what they like/what's considered strategic
- M'Hunters are playing Moneyball so they instead focus on getting really good on neglected templates (or at least templates that good players neglect)

It seems the fix for this inefficiency (if we really care... I mean CW results are a meme anyway and if it becomes perfectly competitive it becomes perfectly boring) is to change CW matchmaking and get rid of the single-template sign-up model + the greedy matchmaking in favor of something that makes matchups less predictable and more interesting.
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 01:55:23


Tac(ky)tical 
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if I play, due to my clan rating, there is one clan I will be matched up with. its annoying.
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 03:38:43


Kratt 
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if I play, due to my clan rating, there is one clan I will be matched up with. its annoying.

Yeah I know, it's so annoying to be matched with your equals (or Seph), I too prefer to be matched with Sabers.
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 05:36:59


Loxiiv 
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tacky can you stop finding excuses for losing to me, ty xxx
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 08:14:12


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https://s20.directupload.net/images/210812/tq3n8xx2.png

#exposed

greetings from a whistleblower
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 08:21:04


Kratt 
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Let me help you with that good whistleblower.
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 08:37:19


Arrow838™ 
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Why are you trying to create unnecessary drama @Kratt. Stop creating rubish forums and demeen a clan. If Masters dont like SE, then that doesnt mean that they are avoiding MH. And if MH like only SE, that doesnt mean that MH are trying to avoid masters. You dont get to see which clan is playing which template at the time you register.
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 11:37:02


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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This is a good example for how evolution can work. 1 clan has the supremacy here. A 2nd clan is strong as well, but would likely be down in the direct comparison with the other clan. So they find an other niche where they can live in and live well qnd develop their own strength. If there is another niche left there might be a 3rd clan to live well. But if not then the 3rd clan has to find something else. Maybe this clan goes to the forums and complains there about the other 2. ;P

EDIT1: (evolution is a bit different though but separation in niches is an important factor therefore)

EDIT2: although i prefer more strategic templates in general like FB and Gurioma, i prefer to play SE templates on CW. Because I dont need to face good players, that are better in real timing this templates than me. I prefer to play easier opponents that I get on Small Earth to get a better result for my clan. Thats my part occupying niches.

Edited 8/12/2021 11:45:12
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 12:16:39


Tac(ky)tical 
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fizzer should just let us have an FFA with all the territory we win and all clans duke it out then we cna take out our angers on clans we dont like
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 12:17:18

riskboy88 
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well that would just make the winning clans less winning. this would shift the focus away from winning games to just PR
Collusion in CW?: 8/12/2021 17:49:46


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nuke clan wars
Collusion in CW?: 8/13/2021 04:22:24


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Anyone else finding it amusing that most of the people throwing shade on Masters and MH are from their main competitor, TSFH?
Stop whining.
Collusion in CW?: 8/13/2021 04:29:53


l4v.r0v 
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double-whistleblower time


EDIT: for legal purposes i must clarify that this is faked

Edited 8/13/2021 04:36:12
Collusion in CW?: 8/13/2021 05:53:20


Loxiiv 
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am I colluding in clan brawl for having 3 accounts?
Collusion in CW?: 8/13/2021 10:05:37

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I can't tell if this is a joke thread or just from someone who doesn't understand things.

https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=926
What happened here now?
This is the first slot in a looong time where both clans join the same template in mass (I'm talking about 5+ members).

Did I stir something up?


There are 3 templates, of those MH players you see sitting to play the only one with 2v2 ladder skills is me, at top 10 with 1 run. I'd be wasted by any Masters pair there, so i just don't play that 2v2 and neither do the rest of my clan mates. The other is commanders LD which is either a quick win/loss if someone messes up picks or you're looking at 45mins++ of constant clicking and local deploy. There are 2 GG and a Masters there, so that would be 3 long games that we're quite happy to just not play that template!
From Masters side, probably about the same considerations knowing that if they choose 2v2 and find an MH pair the game will take 45mins++... or they play commanders LD and take 45mins++
So we're all squashed into SE1W

Everyone else thought the same with 36/42 choosing SE1W!

Templates are not equal

Do we really need to look at timeslots and say why Masters joined 1 and MH the other? Maybe I'll just tell you the secret
But you have to promise not to post it on the forums.
Pinky promise Kratt?
The average Master is better than the average MH at strategy 1v1 or 2v2

If after 5 seasons TSFH are still working that out... then this wasn't a joke thread

Edited 8/13/2021 10:08:30
Collusion in CW?: 8/13/2021 10:11:35


Kratt 
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Looks like I hit a nerve.
Let me quickfix something for you.

The average Master is better than the average MH
Collusion in CW?: 8/13/2021 10:34:55

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Nerve? no. I just openly dislike cheating and underhand tactics.

Yes, of course the #4 ranked CL clan is on average better than the #11 ranked clan (going by CL). Or the #1 better than the #2 (going by CW). That's exactly why we try to not play against them. Do you always use this flawless logic in your games?

Course, the more times we play each other. The better it is for you.
Masters and MH maybe get 30 games a day each, if we avoid each other then TSFH have 60 games to avoid. If Masters and MH duke it out in 2v2 and leave you free to play the other templates you'd run away with a season.

Next time post your jokes in off topic
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