OR ... once you play a human and lose, gain the option to play an AI.

AND ... if you're in the queue with no game for longer than 2 mins, gain the option to play an AI (and with an AI vs 2 AIs if it's the 2v2 template - actually nvm, that template should be axed from WZI, kill it kill it kil it).

yup yup yup

yes, kill 2v2, it suck a lot

After posting before I thought I would give arenas another try. And now that I've had the opportunity to play a 2x2 game, I was too tame in my criticism of arenas before. As a low level player 2x2 games are uniquely frustrating. It takes forever to find matches and if any are found they are grossly unbalanced. I just finished a 2x2 where my teammate was booted during territory selection so I got to face two L50+ players solo. That's certainly going to kindle my interest in playing WZ multiplayer.

Arenas became obsolete once WZIB were introduced. They should either be eliminated completely or made only against AI.

Yep, the 2v2's are by far the worst (only ever played 1 for the achievement). Tbh, arena games give so little reward for the effort i have to put into them, that i usually skip them and just finish my level a day later.

Arenas are a terrible introduction to WZ MP, since it has taken the QM system, and removed all the good parts....

@Purdy, JK
Truer words have rarely been spoken. 2v2 Arena actually wards players off of WZC b/c it's such a poor experience. Only SEAD & SE1W & maybe SE-ComBom really have a place here at all. Once you go to MME, you're introducing WZI players to potentially long 30+ min games in an environment they don't understand, not going to learn much from, and most likely get owned and not want to play WZC, and not get any rewards for their effort.

All the templates available. ** can stay. The rest should go.

**Defeat Arena: SE Auto
**Defeat Arena: SE 1 Wasteland
Defeat Arena: Strategic 1v1
Defeat Arena: MME Commanders LD No Cards
Defeat Arena: Strategic 2v2
Defeat Arena: Multi-Attack MME Light Fog LD
**Defeat Arena: Small Earth Commander and Bomb Card

Com-bomb isnt viable for new players earlier.

How will they learn commanders are worth 7 armies if no-one explains that to them? They just suddenly lose after failing an attack or losing a territory, and they got nothing that explains why...

Very true . . . that is very confusing.

So that brings us to 2 of 7 can stay, the rest should go:
**Defeat Arena: SE Auto
**Defeat Arena: SE 1 Wasteland
Defeat Arena: Strategic 1v1
Defeat Arena: MME Commanders LD No Cards
Defeat Arena: Strategic 2v2
Defeat Arena: Multi-Attack MME Light Fog LD
Defeat Arena: Small Earth Commander and Bomb Card

It would probably be better to just default to have the Arena get WZI players to play an SP game, maybe from the SP campaign. And let experienced players who already have QM ratings, etc, choose to do a QM match template instead of the SP campaign. Or maybe just for players who have already completed the corresponding SP match, they get a QM instead? But then I'd hate to come up along some of those really annoying, multiple attempt, very long SP games as well ... like 3 Blind Mice, Caesar's Challenge, etc. Then again, those are all fairly far into the campaign and given that there's only 7 templates, the games chosen should be early ones, the ones still teaching new users how to play the game. Maybe just the "next" unfinished game in the list? Not sure how this would work but as long as it's still teaching players how to play, would be better than what they're getting now.

Arenas should give SP levels until the 8th (?) SP level (or whichever one World War 2320 is). After beating WW2320 they should have a decent enough understanding of the game to play MP games.