i.e The Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

What are the Malvinas??? :P

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I don't think any overseas territories will be affected. They never identified as Scottish and have always demonstrated they consider themselves British. There will be no effect until they identify themselves as Argentinian or Spanish; but we knew already that if the people there wanted to leave us there wouldn't be a lot we could do.

Yes I know they never identified as Scottish lol (well apart from maybe those citizens descended from Scots)

You're looking at my question from the wrong perspective though. Britain regularly holds referendums to ask if those people wish to remain British, which they consistently answer yes. However the Argentinians and the Spanish to use my examples reply that these polls hold no strength in law and are do not prevent in any way their claims to the territories.

But if Argentina and Spain recognize Scotland as an independent state does that weaken their claims that the referendums which took place in Gibraltar and the Falklands (Malvinas) are not legally binding?

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The current position of the British government is not to negotiate on future of any British overseas territory without permission of that specific territory's government. Therefore those territories will remain British. If they want to become Scottish (or Spanish or Argentine), then the government there would first have to request it.

Yes! But again you are looking, like Arun from the British perspective. I'm interested in the international. :)

Britain regularly holds referendums

If you're referring to the Falkland referendum in 2013, that was not held by the British government. It was held by the Falklands government.

I forgot I was talking a smart ass who knows nothing of his life, but what is most funny to him he knows everything.
So send me the details of something that proves the long history of Palestinian Arabs have changed their brethren +20 countries (details)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/crimea-referendum-falklands-argentina-cristina-fernandez

@the idiot (elroi)

Did you think Arabs moved to Gaza after Israel was formed? Of course there have always been Arabian people living there and they were a part of Arab states as well. Gaza has a longer history than either England, Scotland or Israel.

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Crimea is a very different case. We all know about Putin's history of fixing votes and also there was no option on the Crimean referendum to remain part of Ukraine.

^^ Ya ya

And you're right about the islanders organizing it. (the poll)

My interest is in the international re-action.

When the islanders voted for self determination the Argentinian government attempted to equate it with forcible colonialism aka Russia in Crimea.

But Argentina will have to either A. Recognize Scotland or B. Refuse to recognize Scotland.

If they recognize them - does that compromise their position regarding British people's self determination?

The waste of money from creating an English parliament would be worse than having Scotch MPs voting on English affairs. What a non-issue that is.

The ramifications of a yes vote also affects the entire world.

Spain and France with their Basque and Catalan territories, Italy with it's Northern secessionist movement and Venice and the Tyrol.

Quebec in Canada.

It also goes against the European Union's goal of greater integration.

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Has the UK ever been a great supporter of European integration?

OMRP ... did I ever say that?

I have said a few times now. I'm not interested in the British/English point of view.

I am looking for / from the INTERNATIONAL perspective.

For example if Spain. France, Italy, Austria acknowledge Scotland as an independent state - how does that affect them and their own secessionist movements?

If Argentina, Spain acknowledge one group of British citizens the right to self determine ... how does that affect their attempts to re-claim Gibraltar or the Falklands in the face of the residents desire to not be re-integrated to those countries?

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In Spain, they won't even let Catalonia hold a referendum. They claim Gibraltar despite the views of the Gibraltans and signing various treaties that state they don't own Gibraltar (with the most recent being the Lisbon Treaty). If Spain recognises Scotland, then they may have to allow Catalonia a referendum.

^^ This is what I was wondering :)

You think when they recognize Scotland (if it votes yes) pressure will increase on them to recognize Gibraltians opinions and hold a vote for the Basque / Catalans?

What would be interesting is if Scotland decided to recognise Catalonia.

Haha Scotland playing the role of 18th Century America :D

If the scottish vote with no, they can never sing this song with pride again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcdvKN_XXN0

It is the strongest argument for scotland.
What have the scottish bled. What have they suffered under English oppression throughout the centuries. Its time for Scotland to awake and shape their own future again. A future that might be different to neo liberalism and turbo capitalism exercised by Westminster.

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You exaggerate a little ... British oppression?