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Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:02:07

Blanky
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Edited 5/9/2021 18:07:20
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:06:33


JK_3 
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@Murk: The rating system is broken anyway, since every map that is in a SP level will get 1 star reviews cause newbies confuse map with level, and say things like "the ai's are way too strong" as feedback on the map. This already gives any map not in a SP level a major advantage.

@RWP: Mapes with less than 30 territories were published before the map requirements were added
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:11:46


Murk 
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The rating system is broken anyway, since every map that is in a SP level will get 1 star reviews cause newbies confuse map with level, and say things like "the ai's are way too strong" as feedback on the map. This already gives any map not in a SP level a major advantage.


Yeah, absolutely true. A map getting into the single player "campaign" is a death sentence for its rating.
Even popular custom single player games can do a bad number on the ratings.

Still, this would also be mitigated by more ratings. If every map had 1000+ ratings it would be much less affected by arbitrary 1- or 5-star ratings.

I'm not sure why the number of players rating maps has gone down so drastically. Maybe because quickmatch and the mobile app (and the consequent disappearance of the real-time lobby) is less open to trying out new maps?

Edited 5/9/2021 18:12:43
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:14:59


krinid 
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True, JK ... there are far too many reviews that talk about the AI, cards used, taking too long to finish, etc.
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:18:52


JK_3 
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Yeah, its probably cause more games than ever are made using the 7 first QM templates.

There is just very little variety in maps, and if i even play on a new map i often forget to rate it.

Maybe Fizzer should just nudge players into ranking more maps (but not from SP levels, cause that always goes wrong!). Maybe make the rate map button flashing if the map hasn't been rated yet and the player meets some criteria (like high enough level to know the difference between a map and a level).
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:20:43


JK_3 
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True, JK ... there are far too many reviews that talk about the AI, cards used, taking too long to finish, etc.


Maybe there should be a system where the community can remove some reviews (and the ratings associated with it) if its clearly not about the map but about the settings of a game.

The same way that downvotes on a forum post hides the forum.
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:25:38

Orannis
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I think the main reason the amount of people rating maps has gone down is because it's kind of a pain in the ass to rate maps on mobile, especially if you play on new maps often. There really should be a feature to rate maps within the app, most people can't be bothered having to load up the browser every time they want to leave a quick rating or review.

Plus, I agree that the rate map button is kind of obscure, I never even noticed it until I got into mapmaking. It really should be flashing or highlighted every time you finish a game on a map that you haven't rated.

And actually, I just went and tested the mobile rating system and got this error... https://gyazo.com/345900f104b5170b76f254adfe4a659f
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:26:43


JK_3 
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I think Fizzer implemented rating maps as UJS now, which would make it possible to rate maps on mobile.

Make sure your app is update, i will try to test this as well.
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:29:16

Orannis
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Ah, I recently turned off auto updates for apps and didn't realize I didn't have the update. Kinda feel dumb now.

But yeah the point about the rate map button being out of the way stands.
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 18:35:36


JK_3 
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looks like Fizzer overhauled the map pages as well:

I wonder why he added so much empty space to the left and the right, seems like he just copy pasted the code for phones and tablets.
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 20:03:58


krinid 
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Yea it doesn't look good on browser. I know he's trying to increase app/web parity, but same layout shouldn't be required, just let the frame width resize to the window. So much wasted space in the web layout.

Seems the link to rate maps is now gone too? It's just a popup from the end of a played game now. And the Map Details page doesn't show you your own rating for that map anymore (it used to! Functionality reduced!).
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 20:07:14


JK_3 
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Of course its functionality reduced...

Its a lot easier to downgrade the website than to upgrade the app.

I get that some things are not possible on phones, (like right clicking) but that doesnt mean that any of the functionality for right and middle mouse buttons needs to be removed from the web version.
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 22:58:58

Orannis
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Also, I might as well mention this but is there a reason why there isn’t just an option to rate a map from its map page? Like yes it allows people to rate maps they haven’t played on but why is this a bad thing, it would encourage more rating and there are ways to get around this anyway (using the direct rate link, playing a single player game and surrendering immediately, etc)
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/9/2021 23:01:06


JK_3 
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the rate map page has been deleted, and has now moved to the UJS end screen of games.

rating a map without playing it would lead to abuse, and to reviews based on nothing, so they would just throw off the fairness of map ratings even more
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/12/2021 22:05:05


JK_3 
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Big thanks to everyone that voted ugly shapes!!

We've won by just 5 vote, so without your help this would not have been possible!

I would like to thank all the hates, lovers, trolls, noobs and people that are not included in those 4 groups for spreading the word about ugly shapes far and wide.


https://www.warzone.com/MapOfTheWeek/View?Week=327
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/12/2021 22:06:47

Sevban
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Then we have a tournament on this.
We sure have.

Who will host?

Edited 5/12/2021 22:10:57
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/13/2021 14:42:33


krinid 
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I would like to thank all the haters, lovers, trolls, noobs and people that are not included in those 4 groups for spreading the word about ugly shapes far and wide.


LOL, clap clap for JK for thanking the haters.
Petition to let JK_3's map go public: 5/13/2021 14:48:15


Quantum Entity
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Congratulations JK on getting MotW! I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the picture.
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