"I'll play you, best of 11 at small earth and a best of 11 at strat ME. The strat ME is so you can actually prove something objective. Small earth's just because I'm feeling malicious and might as well add insult to injury by beating you at your own game while I'm at it, there's just something sublime about kicking a man while he's down that I can't seem to resist.

But there's a requirement. You need to really put your money where your mouth's at, to make it worth my time, every game has to also have a 1000 coin bet attached to it. If you're actually as confident as you claim to be this shouldn't be an issue."

I accept these terms. If you'll accept a substitution of opponent.

Edited 5/17/2021 22:23:44

I brought you one vena https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=26944406

> It looks like you've already admitted you'd lose a real time Small Earth series against me. If that's the case, then that's fine.

I may, that's hardly admitting that I would. I never said I was great at SE, or that you were bad at it. I have no clue if I'd beat you at it, but I'd have a better chance at beating someone that plays it a lot in MD than RT, because short boot timers work in favor of someone who can autopilot the template.

I don't value SE, I didn't insult people who play it. I explained quite clearly why I don't value SE, and why SE is looked down upon by many people, not just myself. MTL and CL are both proof of this.

As far as I'm concerned SE savants are their own subgroup, like Rise of Rome players, diplo players, etc. I don't rate any of those groups. Why? In my eyes they're not even playing the same game I am.

> I accept these terms. If you'll accept a substitution of opponent.

I'll play you, but the two templates change to ME and MME, or just ME if you prefer, not playing SE vs you, that just sounds like pain for both of us since to the best of my knowledge it's not a template you like, or a template you've ever focused on trying to master.

I don't really have a bone to pick with you either though. If I lose to you, your picks that I criticized don't magically become good. They're still bad. If I beat you they don't become worse than they were, they were bad then and they always will be, I don't really see what challenging me to a series is trying to prove. We're both good, neither of us are the best, or even close to it, but I don't think that's news to either of us and I don't think the outcome of the games is going to make either of us concede that the other player is better.

I expected to profit from playing Sanmu, especially if he accepted the ME games and not just the SE.

You? I doubt I'd profit much, maybe not at all, but that's not because I'm admitting defeat or that I don't expect to have a chance, so much as I think you and I are too close in skill for anyone but Fizzer to actually profit from us playing a long series vs one another.

If one of us wins 6-5, the winner loses 200 coins, and the loser loses 2000.
6-4 the winner wins 800, and the loser loses 2800.

Those are the most likely outcomes IMO, one of us "might" win 6-3, but even that seems unlikely to me, and I don't think 6-0, 6-1, or 6-2 are even realistic possibilities.

Winning 6-5 or 6-4 wouldn't prove I am better than you, nor would losing 6-5 or 6-4 prove I am worse than you, so I don't really see what the point of such a challenge is.

AI is 4-5 vs Bechaa on the MTL, I'm 2-1 vs Bechaa. Am I better than AI? Nope. Small sample sizes are just noise unless one of us absolutely dominates the other, and that won't happen.

Game created: https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=26949008

Grabs popcorn

Down in front!

@Nauz/Phobos: you shouldn't play coin games every time because that way there's a high chance both of you lose coins doing this. Instead, just play normal games and do a coin transfer game at the end with the full wager, where whoever lost the series surrenders to whoever won the series.

Ooooooh shiiiiittt

Don't break them up!!!
Let them fight, let them wear themselves out, let them beat the snot out of each other!

Edited 5/18/2021 02:09:20

Go Phobos !!!
show at this arrogants masters , they are not the best ^^

Edited 5/18/2021 02:19:20

Zev :( I thought we were friends

baguette

I disagree, MASTERs aren't even slightly arrogant, they are the friendliest people on Warzone.
Proof: https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=26943795

Haha, some people of the master clan behave like they are the best. There are top players who are not in the Master clan. Not all of the top players will be and want to be in the Master clan. It would be boring to have all the top players in 1 clan too.

Time management is also a very important quality, a quality which not all of the players of the Master clan have mastered. When some of them being booted by time or by the player who is tired to wait, they act like shit and they cannot have it. Being smart on time management and you could easily steal coins and wins from some players of the Master clan.

The most important aspect that some people do not have is having respect for other people, even when the statistics in Warzone are bad. Having bad statistics in Warzone does not allow bashing and insulting people who think they are good while they are not really good. Statistics do not say anything, many player play this game only for fun. Being one of the top players requieres respect for everyone, not looking down on anyone, not bashing anyone, not insulting anyone and a lot of time spending in improving gameplay. All of these aspects are equally important to be a top player.

A player who is willing to teach something to other players is very good, unless that player is insulting and bashing other players.

Edited 5/18/2021 19:31:46

lol καλλιστηι, maybe I'm too trash to recognize it, but I don't see the mentioned hot garbage play. Looked like standard back & forth play that I expect for MA games.

But what surprises me is how everyone here is raging on Masters being arrogant ... I mean ... they called themselves Masters ... you should be expecting some arrogance, no?

If you don't want to be insulted and have your play looked down on, maybe don't post your games in a Masters recruiting thread?

Not saying that it's okay to trash talk players, but also think expectations have been set for posting games to this thread. Don't post your game links here! If you do, they're going to evaluate them and trash talk bad play.

I actually learned some stuff from Johnny's commentary on others' games. Which probably means I'm a trash player, lol, but hey, at least I know it. LOLOL

There have to be nice people who are in the Master clan. But some of them are really arrogant.

Edited 5/18/2021 17:21:28

Don't view my stats and consider me a viable candidate for MASTERS ;)

Haha, some people of the master clan behave like they are the best. There are top players who are not in the Master clan. Not all of the top player will be and want to be in the Master clan. It would be boring to have all the top player in 1 clan too.

I'm curious, vena, who would you rank as the top five most skillful players on warzone today?

Edited 5/18/2021 17:25:12

It wasn't meant to be taken as a true statement ;)

top 5 players:

FCC Cacao
Emperor Justinian
Me
Me again
FCC Cacao (I'm better than him)