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Hitler: 7/12/2014 20:02:19


[REGL] Pooh 
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Okay, what gives?

First, why do SO many people make their name a variation of "Hitler" ?
-Are they just trolls?
-Do they sympathize with his cause?
-Do they truly believe in a master race?
-Are they just randomly picking names out of the book entitled "Names to Never Name Your Children" ?

Second, why are people SO offended by this trollish behavior that they NEED to report players for having Hitler-ish names?
-This is despite the explicit warning inside the report tool that says: "A player having the name of an offensive world leader is NOT a reportable offense. DO NOT REPORT THIS PLAYER, just Blacklist and Move On." (Side Note, I mean these quote marks to mean I paraphrased, I am not quoting.)

Seriously, Don't believe me? Click on Report, go to the pull-down, find "Player has name of offensive world leader" The response is "DON'T REPORT THIS" Yet, people still find the need to go back to the pull down, find some other reason to report, and then submit a report that says "This person has the name of an offensive world leader."

Third, How many times will I be reported because I made a forum thread with the name, "Hitler" ?
Hitler: 7/12/2014 20:07:48


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hellooo???? he conquered Europe....


you really needed someone to tell you why?
Hitler: 7/12/2014 20:09:49

Elroi{IL}
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Are you kidding or are you really stupid .... this guy a cook and want to kill them all because he thought his race should be the only one and rule the world you really surprised who report to you?
Hitler: 7/12/2014 20:14:17

Hitler
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:(
Hitler: 7/12/2014 20:20:40


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yet nobody cries about Julius Ceasar or Ghenghis Khan or Stalin, etc etc.

some people just think they are special.
Hitler: 7/12/2014 20:20:41


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Yeah , myabe nazis ur bad but that does not mean u can bully them
Hitler: 7/12/2014 20:23:50

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This difference in their world view that the killing of all non-Aryans ... and difference are not killed in the war or opposed them because they just killed people who were their own citizens for no reason regardless of battle just because they think they are inferior ... so if someone writes the Offline Hitler says he identifies whether race theory.
Hitler: 7/12/2014 21:11:25


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I cri evri tym
Hitler: 7/12/2014 22:09:18


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Welcome to the internet.
Hitler: 7/12/2014 22:09:29


[REGL] Pooh 
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Yet, you're not getting at my questions.

Are the people calling themselves Hitler just trolls? That is my leading theory. I would like to think that no one really sympathizes with Hitler's views.

So, that goes to my next question. Given that the leading theory (Proposed by me) that these people are just trolls, why do people get so upset and proceed to report all the Hitlers in the world.

"Using a name of 'Hitler' or another world leader is not against WarLight's rules. Feel free to blacklist the player so you do not have to play with them, however you should not report them." This is EXACTLY what it says under the report pulldown of: They named themselves after a world leader I don't like.

Taking it one step further, Why do you think that Fizzer should be the moderator of all of the right and wrong world leaders? Like Taxi Driver said, what about other comparably bad world leaders? Or what if I renamed myself Obama? Would 66% of Americans that think that I'm doing a poor job be able to report me and get me banned? Or even worse, what if I called myself Cheney, and every single Iraqi thinks that I should be banned from Warlight because I championed an unjust war that left hundreds of thousands dead?

TLDR, if we put a red line in the spectrum of good to bad leaders, where does it go, and who places the world leaders on that line?

Is it too hard to respect that Fizzer isn't going to moderate that behavior? He's tasked each individual player to take some responsibility to blacklist and move on.
Hitler: 7/12/2014 22:12:51


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It says you should NOT report them... Whether it is Hitler or any leader.

As to the people, they are your regular internet people. For various reasons, they want to be provocative. Why analyse this stupidity of obsession of provocative things which plagues the internet?

Edited 7/12/2014 22:14:30
Hitler: 7/12/2014 22:51:04


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As long as a player's name is not strongly offensive (offensive being different from provocative), I see no reason to be upset with anyone named "Hitler" or any other similar titles as long as they are not using their name in a distracting or offensive manner. I can't tell any other players what they should or shouldn't believe. Just keep in mind that WarLight is just a game and, just as Pooh said, just because a player's name is Hitler doesn't mean that they hate Jews, and a player named Jeffrey Dahmer probably isn't a murderous sociopath.

My personal views are that it is a little silly that so many people choose the name "Hitler", as it is potentially provocative and, more importantly, uncreative and impersonal, but I don't think that anyone is a bad person simply for choosing "Hitler" as their player name.
Hitler: 7/12/2014 23:03:08

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He's famous. Maybe the most famous guy ever. People are attracted to fame like flies to turds. And he was a turd as well, so I guess that makes his name doubly attractive. Maybe some users called Hitler are actually flies? Who knows.
Hitler: 7/12/2014 23:22:37


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^^I lol-ed

Edited 7/12/2014 23:22:52
Hitler: 7/13/2014 00:26:47


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My guess would be that many people make their name a variation of "Hitler" because they want to show they honor/respect/admire him.
Hitler was a man who did fight for his beliefs till the end, and had a huge impact on the entire world while trying to atteaves his goals.
Hitler: 7/13/2014 00:42:50

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Sorry mate, he fought no one. He talked about fighting all day but never did any actual fighting. He refused to visit a single bombed german city until very late in the war, and all he ever did was talk and talk more about stuff that wasn't even happening.
Hitler: 7/13/2014 01:27:32


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"He talked about fighting all day but never did any actual fighting"

Please stop talking bullshit pedrito.
I didn't mean it literally, but even then you got it wrong.
Adolf Hitler did fight:

source: wikipedia
At the outbreak of World War I, Hitler was living in Munich and volunteered to serve in the Bavarian Army as an Austrian citizen. Posted to the Bavarian Reserve Infantry Regiment 16 (1st Company of the List Regiment), he served as a dispatch runner on the Western Front in France and Belgium, spending nearly half his time well behind the front lines. He was present at the First Battle of Ypres, the Battle of the Somme, the Battle of Arras, and the Battle of Passchendaele, and was wounded at the Somme. He was decorated for bravery, receiving the Iron Cross, Second Class, in 1914. Recommended by Hugo Gutmann, he received the Iron Cross, First Class, on 4 August 1918, a decoration rarely awarded to one of Hitler's rank (Gefreiter). Hitler's post at regimental headquarters, providing frequent interactions with senior officers, may have helped him receive this decoration. Though his rewarded actions may have been courageous, they were probably not highly exceptional. He received the Black Wound Badge on 18 May 1918.

During his service at the headquarters, Hitler pursued his artwork, drawing cartoons and instructions for an army newspaper. During the Battle of the Somme in October 1916, he was wounded in the left thigh when a shell exploded in the dispatch runners' dugout. Hitler spent almost two months in hospital at Beelitz, returning to his regiment on 5 March 1917. On 15 October 1918, he was temporarily blinded in a mustard gas attack and was hospitalised in Pasewalk. While there, Hitler learnt of Germany's defeat, and—by his own account—on receiving this news, he suffered a second bout of blindness.


Edited 7/13/2014 01:28:18
Hitler: 7/13/2014 01:46:24


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( not saying I like Hitler if you get this off my message ) Hitler inspired the German people to not be bullied by their debtors.he made it a fierce war machine that crushed Poland and took France ridonculously fast. In mere months , his army were 12 km from the kremlin and were not far from the suez.while his true motives , propaganda and behind-the-scenes work was scary and disgusting, he nudged the nation into the powerhouse it is today. Though by god , that moustache was awful !
Hitler: 7/13/2014 02:12:17


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.... he nudged the nation into the powerhouse it is today.


Actually, wrong again! Germany's economy was almost completely destroyed by the end of the second world war. It was heavy American/Allied investment in West Germany that brought the nation into its status of power and wealth that has lasted into current times. Hitler had nothing to do with it because a) almost all that he had created was destroyed by the end of 1945 and b) he was dead.
Hitler: 7/13/2014 02:46:42

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I can see where this is going. Hitler admirers have already more than proven to be fanatical and completely out of contact with reality... what the hell did I expect joining this thread anyways? Seriously, posting a Wikipedia article is not an argument, and even in the article is says clearly that he spent more time sucking up to his superiors and in hospital than fighting.

For the record: I'm german, parts of my family have died in the war, both in the concentration camps and as soldiers in the Wehrmacht. I'm proud of german military, scientifical and industrial achievements before, after and during the war. I'm not anti-german, and I'm not even any more anti-Hitler than the average person. I do recognize his talents as a public speaker. But admiring/honoring/respecting Hitler is something that only people do who either a) are fascist and racist pigs b) are young and easily impressed c) have no_fucking_clue about history and somehow think that Germany's performance during the war was because of Hitler's genius, and not in spite of his mismanagement and the extreme ruthlesness of the Nazi methods.

With this said, no disrespect to anyone, feel free to revere whoever you wish.
Peace
Hitler: 7/13/2014 02:51:06

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It was heavy American/Allied investment in West Germany that brought the nation into its status of power and wealth that has lasted into current times. Hitler had nothing to do with it...


Maybe it was all in his master plan. Maybe WWII was really just a multi-million life scheme to make Germany an economic powerhouse...

Heh, just kidding. In his last days Hitler wanted to sabotage all of Germany so that Stalin couldn't get any resources. Luckily, he was unconvinced...
Hitler: 7/13/2014 03:01:13


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I agree to all of that pedrito, only the "never did any actual fighting" was not true...

"Hitler admirers have already more than proven to be fanatical and completely out of contact with reality..."

Do you mean me with that just because i correct a false fact?
Hitler: 7/13/2014 03:19:14

{rp} pedrito 
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No I didnt't mean you specifically. Arguing with anyone who admires Hitler is like running against a brick wall. Sorry if it came across as personal.
Hitler: 7/13/2014 05:06:27


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I've wondered why people get so upset about Hitler and not the other terrible dictators. Glad I'm not the only one to notice the double standard. Pooh I'd have to say your right about them just being trolls. There might be a few who are rasist tards that have romanticised the Nazi party but I bet most are just trolls.

I think the more interesting question is why do people get so pissed about it. Is there another tyrant not linked to the Nazi's that would cause a similar reaction? I doubt it. They must feel like they're making a positive impact or get some sort of gratification out of crying about it.

hmmm...maybe the Hitlers are trolls who trick the boyscouts into trolling Fizzer with pointless complaints. That's a pretty good troll move!
Hitler: 7/13/2014 05:24:14


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It is rather sad that so many people think that Hitler was far and away the most sadistic dictator in history. In just the same time period, Joseph Stalin had over 20,000,000 people killed, and yet few people talk about Stalin in as evil of a manner as Hitler.
Hitler: 7/13/2014 05:34:54

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Why can't we just consider them both evil?
Hitler: 7/13/2014 06:00:35


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Well arc , stalin had a badass beard. Also : while der fuehrer was terrible , heinrich himmler was the man who orchestrated the blasphemous holocaust. Also , I meant hitler nudged it , not made it. Due to his actions, germany received powerful attention which greatly strengthened the nation
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Hitler: 7/13/2014 09:58:06

Elroi{IL}
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In most cases people choose to name it out of admiration, and most of the happening itself this sympathy Hitler admired his opinions
Hitler: 7/13/2014 13:18:38


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Hitler: 7/13/2014 13:22:33


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i think the reason people care about hitler and not stalin is because the jews control the media. if uzbeks controlled the media, people would give no fucks about hitler and all the naughty little boys of the internets would be neo-stalinists instead
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