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What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 22:54:28

Octavious
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Firstly, I apologise for asking such a noobish question, but I've only recently joined.

Anyway, I've started to notice that players have a wild variation of boot percentages. Some have none, most seem to have a very low percentage, and some, such as Hell Bender, are booted from over a quarter of their games. My question is does this matter? Are there some game varients in which boots are unavoidable and you will always pick up a few along the way? Or is a high boot percentage a sign that something's wrong?

Cheers in advance!

Oct
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 22:58:09


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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TROLLLLLLL ALLLLEEEERRRRRTTTTTT WEEEE HAAVVEEE A CCOODDDEEEEE BLLACK TROLL ALLERRT

ANSWER- NOBODY CARES ITS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:00:34


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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PLUS ITS RUDE TO POINT OUT OTHER PLAYERS BOOT RATES, I MAY HAVE A HIGHER BOOT RATE BUT ITS JUST A GAME
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:02:11

Octavious
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If I didn't know better, I'd say you didn't like me much :p.

But no, it was a genuine question. I'd quite like to get a bit more involved with this site but haven't grasped what the stats really mean yet. I thank you for the answer... although I would have prefered it without the decoration ;)
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:04:22


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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its different for everyone different clans require different things mine is higher because im on errratically i could be on for four hours and be in 3 or 4 games then have to get off and get booted from all of them i never want to leave a game
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:04:23


{rp} Clavicus Vile 
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Most experienced game makers will put a prerequisite to joining their games to exclude people with high boot rates. Personally I put 4% as a max most of the times.

There is no game where a boot is inevitable, atleast not a game that you´d play consistantly as boots are not good at all, since you will be excluded from alot of games.

Some people do make 2min autoboot games though.
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:06:52


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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i see why im never in a game with discord then;)
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:10:27

Octavious
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Ah, that makes sense. Cheers, both of you!
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:26:11


Richard Sharpe 
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High boot rate often means the player doesn't respect his opponents or possibly even teammates. Having a player booted can and often does ruin a game for everyone involved and leads to delays, especially in multi-day games.

Obviously sample size should be considered (10 boots in 100 games looks bad but may be justified, 100 boots in 1000 games not so much!)
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/11/2012 23:28:12


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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30 boots in 120 something is not good its only been in the past two weeks that it got like that i had like a three percent rate then my internet went on the fritz and m games kept getting screwed up
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/12/2012 08:28:00


Ska2D2 
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Obviously sample size should be considered (10 boots in 100 games looks bad but may be justified, 100 boots in 1000 games not so much!)

10 boots in 100 games is failing to complete 1 game in every 10

100 boots in 1,000 games is failing to complete 1 game in every 10.

That's the same fraction if you cannot complete 1 game in 10 it's bad.

I use a 9 or 10% max for boot filters. I have also seen that 15% is used. I won't join a game unless it has a decent boot filter. So people with a boot rate over 10% I rarely play with or against.
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/12/2012 10:36:53


his balls. 
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Same fraction. different sample size...
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/12/2012 10:55:44


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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Ska2D2 - some people are not even aware what a boot is for some time after they start their "warlight adventure".. The mere 10, 20 or even more boots might happen before the person realizes for example that closing the tab in browser doesn't make them quit the game which does work that way in many other online multiplayer games.. Therefore i would say there should be a huge difference in interpretation of same percentage over different sample size..

still, most of the decent players have their bootrate below 5% (although there are a few good players i know of, who have their bootrate much much higher, one in particular even with a couple thousand games played so far, but these exceptions do not influence my general impression)
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/12/2012 12:50:46


Richard Sharpe 
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Ska, the point was that a smaller number like 10 are more likely to be justifiable, whether it be due to internet issues, vacation or life simply getting in the way.

Having 100 boots over 1000 games is far less easily justified since it would mean multiple instances of mass-boots.

But thanks for the math lesson
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/12/2012 12:58:22


[WG] Warlightvet 
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I have dibs on the stupidest excuse for a high boot rate... when i started playing, for the first 50 games or so (most of which i lost of course), i didn't know how to surrender, so i either waited to be eliminated or left :)
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/15/2012 09:37:11


Krzysztof 
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@Discord - AFAIK you can't set autoboot to 2 min
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/15/2012 12:38:49


Pink 
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always avoid havign a boot rate over 10%, i believe i tend to filter aroudn 7, 8%.... i havent set that in all my settings, but try to stay low
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/15/2012 14:08:19


ChrisCMU 
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I won't join open team games with people that have %10 or higher boot rates. Not worth the risk of losing to a boot.

And I agree, someone can have a bad week and rack up 10 boots easily. When you get to higher amounts of games and you still have %10 that is an issue.

I personally have none (I don't overextend myself), but something could happen (power outage, internet outage, etc) and I could end up with some. You just never know.

If it is FFA or 1v1, I really don't care about boots though. Only you will suffer.
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/15/2012 18:47:34


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When I create games, I put 5% max boot rate (and a minimum of multiday games played, but that's besides the point).

Although, I would really like sometimes to see bootrate separately for multiday and for real-time. In real time games, it's sometimes hard to avoid (I was booted on a big FFA in Europe 1600, with only 2 of us left... 5 seconds after direct boot time, as I was committing dozens of orders :/). High boot rate in multi-day is something completely different.
What's in a high boot percentage?: 10/15/2012 19:54:13


Smoker 
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It can be dificult to avoid being booted sometimes. I stayed in rural Spain for several weeks last year with no access to internet & although I surrendered in my existing games I found some tournaments that I'd joined months before came up while I was away.
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