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The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 21:42:23

cleebaar123
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Hello everyone! After almost 4 months, the Warzone Diplomacy Discord server is shutting down at 12:00 EST tomorrow. We have been experiencing an uncontrollable amount of spamming, pinging, and trolling, and have lost many members already. I was away on vacation during the issue, so it only metastasized. I would like to say thank you to everyone who contributed in a positive way to the diplomacy community and helped unite the diplomacy players, your commitments will not be forgotten!

-cleebaar123

(an update: the server got back on its feet after a long long story I do not want to explain, this forum is now basically just a platform to discuss the drama, enjoy!)

Edited 7/31/2020 05:13:44
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 22:55:26


TBest 
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That is unfortunate :(
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 22:57:22

{N.W.} Hi
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I haven’t been on that server, but sorry to hear that :(
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 22:59:23


Balthromaw
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trolls : community
1 : 0
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 23:18:16


Balthromaw
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Let me post here my favorite internet quote:

"As many of you are aware in the recent months we have been attacked by a group of botters and scripters spamming the chat, making false reports, gamethrowing, and all around ruining games. We have done many things to combat these bots but at the detriment of future development.

We have tried auto detection of common bot phrases, and suspensions based on these. The bots were able to turn this against normal users by tricking them into saying these phrases, while changing their bots to say other things.

This led us to try logging their IPs and IP banning them, but they would just rotate their IPs between accounts. Normal users would sometimes then be assigned these banned IPs meaning they couldn’t log in anymore.

Next we tried altering our client and server networking code to break 3rd clients. Within a few hours they had decompiled our SWFs, looked at the source code to fix their 3rd party clients and were back to botting.

We added email verification to make sure that only valid emails could be used to create accounts, but these users used forwarding emails, or sites such as “10 minute email” to make temporary emails that were valid long enough to activate the accounts.

Then we added captchas to several parts of the registration process to make it harder for them to register accounts, but again, they found ways to get around it, or go straight through it. This made it harder for normal users to make accounts, but didn’t really slow down the bots.

Lastly, we added captchas when a newer user tried to join a lobby, and these would trigger again on spamming reports. This method slowed down the bots, but only as long as we constantly work to add new captcha questions, and actively work to brick any automated solvers they are creating.

Currently, we can only keep up with the bots by devoting all our time to the upkeep of the captcha system.

The botters and spammers seem willing to devote all of their time to coming up with new ways to spam, troll, bot and destroy this game."
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 23:37:36


kytne
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The replacement "Chill Warzone Server" has a #spam-the-n-word channel and a Mee6 bot configured to (seemingly) randomly say n****r. To be fair, so far only LoXIV seems to have taken advantage of the #spam-the-n-word server.

It seems like closing the server is only going to exacerbate the troll infestation (or the trolls' isolation from civilized society). The Warzone Diplomacy Server at least has a few items of value; why not pass on ownership to someone else (TBest? Make him volunteer) so the main diplo server doesn't get replaced with a full-on dumpster fire outright run by the trolls?

Edited 7/17/2020 23:41:07
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 23:38:54


Hotarian 
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lmao
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 23:40:31

cleebaar123
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I suppose we could vote to keep the server alive and transfer ownership
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 23:42:49


Hotarian 
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just turn it into a "Chill with Bill" Channel. Basically you can have the bot scream the N word when someone says , "whats up"
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/17/2020 23:45:11


kytne
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You could also consult with TBest and Min and whoever else to copy their troll-handling methods. I don't think WZ Public Chat could handle a troll problem the size of what your server has but their techniques could provide a solid foundation for building on top of.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/18/2020 00:33:37

cleebaar123
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In the end I transferred ownership to Dorex Time, people didn't want it to shut down, but it's heyday is effectively over
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/18/2020 00:51:03


THE TungstenTrex
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I didn't even know it existed, wtf.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/18/2020 01:16:16


kytne
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Great, thanks. With the server still alive we can keep dabbing on Palestine in #politics-discussion.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/18/2020 01:38:50


TBest 
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You could also consult with TBest and Min and whoever else to copy their troll-handling methods. I don't think WZ Public Chat could handle a troll problem the size of what your server has but their techniques could provide a solid foundation for building on top of.


That behavior would get auto-banned by either the bot or any of the 16 moderators. The ban-list in our server is not small (notably the player known as karl, kept coming back with new discord accounts) and a few other rule-breaking things. We also have explicit media content filter turned on. I will say, that it's not like the WZ public chat never had problems. After all that is why we added the verification gate. I do say, it's in a safe place now, but the beginning had some hiccups. :)

With that being said, the server we have is open to everyone, which naturally includes the diplomacy community. If at any point, activity mandates separate diplomacy channels we will (re)add it, for example if any other server wants to move here. So far thru, WZ public never really saw use from the diplo folks. Which, is perfectly understandable as it might be easier for them to organize in a separate server.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/18/2020 14:51:17


Emperor Justinian
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Cleebaar I only made the Chillzone because multiple people were threatening to create new servers for growing horde of people unhappy with what you were doing. I know banning people because they broke the rules is reasonable but our punishment of the members was inconsistent and flawed in many ways. It would have been one thing to ban Loxiiv without asking anyone else if it was a good idea but then failing to provide a reasonable justification and ignoring us was serious fuel to the fire. We literally offered you the highest position of power on the Chillzone but you said you don't want to be a mod on our shitty server.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 03:15:39

cleebaar123
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I never used the word shitty, and I provided justification
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 04:33:17

Player25253
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...you did now (...I'm not supposed to be here)
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 04:33:54


Hotarian 
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then leave, no one wants u here
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 04:35:16

Player25253
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Ok :)
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 04:35:32


Hotarian 
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thank u;)
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 05:28:49


knyte 
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Cleebaar I only made the Chillzone because multiple people were threatening to create new servers for growing horde of people unhappy with what you were doing
Interesting justification for creating a server with a #spam-the-n-word channel (with a monkey emoji as its icon), where the welcome channel is themed #immigration-control with a woman in a hijab as its icon.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 15:30:46


THE TungstenTrex
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just don't think too hard about it
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 17:05:28


knyte 
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Imo calling that server shitty is a compliment. Implies the people who made it are capable of doing better.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 17:36:32


Emperor Justinian
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Knyte are you offended with the word nebula?
- downvoted post by Eddie
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 17:51:55


knyte 
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Justinian, you and I both know that's not the "n word" your channel references. It's also not the one people have posted in there multiple times that would get them warned/suspended elsewhere but seems to be totally fine in the cesspool you created to rally behind an open troll.
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 18:05:57


Loxiiv 
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hey what's wrong with the spam the n word channel?
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 18:06:02


Emperor Justinian
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Listen big brain maximus, we are mocking people like you. If you had actually seen the n word channel we say many words starting with n but not the actually n word. Of course we don't ban people for actually saying the n word on our server but you are judging us without even giving us a chance
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 18:06:27


Emperor Justinian
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btw u big gay
The Warone Diplomacy Server is Shuting down: 7/19/2020 18:09:34


Rick Sanchez
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who tf is Maximus. btw make the diplo server great again.
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