Special thanks to Wakanari for keeping score throughout ;)

Edited 8/26/2014 00:57:53

at 20 you go in vacation with family? ;)

If your family is good and it's still enjoyable, why not?

I'm much more likely to go with my family than myself, and I'm older that that.
It may be that I suck at getting a job and don't have money to treat myself to a vacation though. ;)

at 20 you go in vacation with family? ;)

yea, im 24 and still do it. i often go with my sisters (both older then me) a week or 1,5 week to my parents when they are on holiday.

Edited 8/26/2014 13:00:21

So Conclution:
-Blitz get half of the points from the 2v2 tournaments desi participated in.
-Turtles lose points from Wohoo.

Am i right?

Edited 8/26/2014 13:05:54

i think "no" on both

MoD could puppet his team mate right so if he cheated all points he played in should be stripped.

And if Woohoo is DD ( i have talked to them and im convinced they are 2 different persons but its not up to me to make that discussion) i guess turtle and GG didnt knew that. So not sure if they loose points then??

Edited 8/26/2014 13:16:00

again this. since he's nothing admitting, it might be as well, that BOTH clans knew about it. if he would've admitted he's wohoo before, the community might believe him. like that it's just incredibly unfair just to punish blitz. nothing against turtle and GG, but those clans should be punisged even harder, because we had to do all the research.

lol even if DD is woohoo, i'm pretty sure noone of us knew about this. Master didn't get punished either right?

But i won't continue with this argue;) not up to me to make this discussion

i don't care about GG at all honestly. but it's just incredible unfair if Blitz loses points because of me AND i get banned from the next clan league, while wohoo/DD probably only get banned from the next clan league. you had absolutely no problems to find out what really happened with desi, after you realized it's my alt. meanwhile, you had do make researchs about wohoo, it caused a lot of discussions, as far as i heard a tribunal or something is ongoing, still to find out if wohoo is DD!!! it was clear from the very beginning that wohoo is an alt and turtles still let him participate without asking him about it? and now the only ones who get punished will be blitz, just because we had the fairness to admit that i'm desi and that some knew about it? i can't accept that. turtles are at least as guilty as wohoo in this case.

i didnt found out that you where desi and i dont care either tbh, dont blame me for this lol. i had and still have nothing to do with it

Well, not that i care.. BUT:

i have talked to them and im convinced they are 2 different persons

I don't say they are the same person, but he IS an alt. I mean, c'mon..

i guess turtle and GG didnt knew that.

As obvious as it is.. Deep inside, they knew.

i often go with my sisters (both older then me) a week or 1,5 week to my parents when they are on holiday.

Sweet :D

Banana-

What does this mean?:

"I don't say they are the same person, but he IS an alt. I mean, c'mon.. "

The definition of an alt is two accounts by the same person.

What i mean is that i never said wohoo is DD, i only say he is an alt. Could be anyone for what i know.

I don't say they are the same person, but he IS an alt. I mean, c'mon..

never said that either, he could have had other accounts indeed.

As obvious as it is.. Deep inside, they knew.

please tell me how do you know, if it is obvious

Sweet :D

^^

Edited 8/26/2014 17:09:46

MoD could puppet his team mate right so if he cheated all points he played in should be stripped.

Do you really think MoD is a person that would puppet the other players.
I played with him myself and in 1 of our first 2 games we had like a 20 minute discussion about what would be the best to pick for our game and that was a time I still didn't know that desi actually was MoD.
I'm pretty sure that he isn't a player that would puppet at all. I asked at times about what he thought about certain moves and so but that was really the only times he actually could do some kind of puppeting and that you can't see as puppeting imo.

Not sure if MOD would puppet, but have played with him/desi enough to know he is vocal. He puts his two cents in. At the very least he might dictate the picks. I don't see him analyzing everyone's moves though. He hasn't done that with me, but he might with someone else, I don't know.

Even if he doesn't, a general rule must apply to all similar cases. In my opinion this means all points should be stripped because in some cases, puppeting will occur. But because this doesn't concern me, I'll not comment further.

I agree Arun, which is why we stripped all points. You can't take away half the points in a 2v2 and make assumptions about wins/losses based on a hypothetical replacement level player.

Widzisz alt is in my clan, every chat game, and can see everything we say or do. If need be I am sure Widzisz wouldnt mind being a 3rd party to show we were not aware he is an alt.



Wohoo has FINALLY confesse of being an alt. The main is no longer played and the league runners are currently analyzing and judging the authenticy.

turtle i know it's only a game, but you and DD make me angry! how dare he still claiming he's not DD? should i rewrite the proofs we got? don't you make any tryout games when you let someone in your clan? don't you make any tryout games when you let someone in your clan? don't you have a look at his stats at least once? I've only seen one account that was more obvious an alt: TWM.

Apparently there are rules against using alts, unless you never admit it. I repeat myself, but don't you see how ridiculous it is, to punish blitz while turtles get no punishment?

Edited 8/26/2014 21:31:02

MOD would puppet

As we have seen in several other forum threads -> "MoD sucks" <- so puppeting should not be our problem here :D