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Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/16/2020 23:36:13


LND 
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Kratt's TSFH clan (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=402) has climbed to an enormous number of players extremely fast; they are now about 100 members behind Darklords (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=140) and at the rate they've been going, they'll overtake in a month or so. But will the members remain active? Or will vast numbers of them leave WZ sooner or later and the massive clan will be reduced to the state of Darklords? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/17/2020 00:04:56


FC Bayern 
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They basically had 200+ members right in their first week after their foundation.

I'm wondering why the darklords couldn't get even more players. They did invite basically everyone. Spam inviting seemes to work better for TSFH though.

By the way, some invites that I got:
- Darklords (4 times I guess xD)
- XS
- Cats
- Virtix Mortalis
- Celtica
- USSR
- that Thanos clan (I'm too lazy to look for the name).
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/17/2020 03:56:23


Kratt 
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Short answer, no.
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/17/2020 04:26:30


Жұқтыру
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They did invite basically everyone.


Darklordio got tired of it
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/17/2020 11:01:39


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Maybe clan invites are shown in the app now? I can't remember if that is the case now but if that changed since dark-lords time would make it easier to recruit now
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/17/2020 11:06:49


rick
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no clan invites don't work in the app. I joined TLA just yesterday and had to use the browser.
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/18/2020 07:07:51

Mike
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Was Kratt spamming invites? When I was invited he just invited me through one of his clan tournaments that I happened to join.

I have to give him credit, he puts A LOT of effort into hosting several unique weekly tournaments and 1v1 ladders.

He (and the clan) certainly kept me playing a lot longer than I would have otherwise.
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/18/2020 08:00:43


LND 
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Invites do work in the app, but you have to accept them when the notification comes, you can't find them on clan page.
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/19/2020 16:16:00

riskboy88 
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yup, they overtook 101st now.

congratulations Kratt what adress can i send your reward of frozen waffles to
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/19/2020 18:02:05


Onoma94
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CORP and 101st should kick some inactives. They don't belong in the clanlist in between such great clans as TSFL and Cats and Celtica.
- downvoted post by sniper
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/19/2020 22:58:48

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they are spreading too fast, all tournaments have been infected

Edited 4/19/2020 23:00:02
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/20/2020 00:12:31


Battle Master ⚔
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help me
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/20/2020 06:59:04

pewpewyourdead
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its because TSFH is life ( seriously recommend listening to their music 10/10 )

TSFH - Two Steps From Hell

also recommend listening to Thomas Bergersen who is the actual founder of TSFH
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/20/2020 10:13:43


LND 
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Sounds like the name of a metal band. Metal isn't my style.
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/20/2020 10:20:02


JK_3 
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Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/20/2020 14:47:52


Viking1007
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TSFH won't become the new Darklords unless they don't kick inactive members, which will be hard going through 500+ members
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/21/2020 01:00:00


LND 
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Lol I just played a QM game with a TSFH member, here's the chat:
Me: TSFH boy?
TSFH boy: is that the clan?
Me: lol
TSFH boy: lol sorry I'm not super involved

Looks like they're already on their way... 😉
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/22/2020 04:59:29


Kratt 
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Cheeky.
Coming from you especially.
You put in so much effort to appear to be something you're not. You claim to screen your potential recruits but you and I both know how it's really done.
"Hey, can I get an invite?" was all it took for me to join TLA back before TSFH times. And it hasn't changed.
And even when you try to hoard everything that makes a sound in global chat the involvement in your clan is lacking.
Yeah you get a few spammers, but that's hardly being involved in clan matters.
Funnily, one of your co-managers is taking notes on what to do from me. And I heard you got massive outside help. Well done.

The way we recruit, you can't expect involvement from everyone, that's impossibly high expectations. Never have I hidden that we are an extremely open clan and it is not hard to get in, unless you're BM.
But we are going in the right direction and that's not the way Darklords are.
Everything takes time. We are so new compared to every other clan out there, but community building is going great so far.
Those who are involved already, find it fun enough to stay, even when better clans occasionally come knocking.
And it'll only get better.

Basically, in short.
You're bitter, don't be. ;)
Will TSFH become the new Darklords?: 4/22/2020 09:32:29


LND 
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1. Yes, it is cheeky, I'm a cheeky boy. ;)
2. I think I actually put in effort for TLA to become something we're not (currently). Myself? I know I'm bad, I'm not making any claims at being a good player.
3. You joined TLA before we had implemented all our new rules, if I remember correctly. Even if you had joined later, you still fit the requirements, and we do check our recruits for bootrate and activity (except maybe Miegokhan, but we tell him off and revoke the invites when he doesn't do that).
4. Hoard everything that makes a sound in the global chat? Is there something wrong with recruiting from the global chat?
5. Spammers get kicked if they do it too much. Look at BM.
6. What's wrong with taking notes from you? I don't tell them not to get advice from other managers...
7. "Massive outside help?" Lol. I guess if you count JSA and NoName having being here for a week or two to train a couple players as "massive outside help", then sure.
8. The way you recruit is activity, and yet you don't expect involvement from everyone... interesting. But I agree that it is impossible the way you recruit.
9. I'm sure Darklords was going the right direction once...
10. I agree, things take time. Which is why turning TLA from an inactive clan into an active one is taking time.
11. Community building going great and you're having fun? Great!

Basically, in short,
You're salty, don't be. ;)

(P.S. I was not starting this thread to take a dig at you or TSFH; I was purely curious, because you guys are the only clan of a similar size to Darklords, and I merely wondered whether you may end up like them. I would have made this thread regardless of the clan or who runs it. One reason for wondering this is because TLA recruited active players quickly in our first few months a couple years back, and a year and a half later, we were a ghost town of inactives. And if that happened to 80 players, I'm wondering whether it could happen to 500, that's all. Again, I wasn't trying to slight you or TSFH, just curious. So don't be offended!!!)

Edited 4/22/2020 09:35:05
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