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Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 11:53:58


Issander
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And by huge I mean really huge. The goal is to achieve about 2000 territories.

Earth map is mostly water, so it's hard to get a lot of territories, but I think I can do that. Also, I've chosen the map that shows the distances correctly, so Antarctida, Canada, Greenland and Russia don't get ridiculously big.

This is what I've got: http://WarLight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=15102

Right now I've got almost 50 territories in the area that has 6 territories in the currently biggest world map, which has 450 territories in total.

Army numbers don't fit in some territories, but I can and will change that.

South America is somewhat a test - it holds 12% of Earh's land area, so it should have about 200 territories. But big part of territories will be islands that are enlarged, so I guess anything over 150 territories will do.

Other things about the map: there will be normal bonuses as well as strategic points known from my Europe map.

P.S. Could anybody remind that thing about big maps, because I cannot find it and I think I remember something about a need for special permission for really big maps because AI can't play on them. Am I right?
Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 12:31:52

Killer23{Warlighters}
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No your wrong


Wow the map looks good so far
Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 12:47:37


Moros 
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I don't know about any special permission, but I haven't made any huge maps yet so I could be wrong.
And how do you divide countries? There aren't a lot of divisions for Greenland, eastern Russia, Antarctica and Australia.
Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 12:57:59


Ironheart
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actually moros ,greenland is divided into 13 subdivisions and 3 divisions and the Asia map has a Russia of 200 territories he can borrow the svg and the Oceania map Australia has 84 territories he can borrow both svg countries.And it is possible to split antartica into 24 territories if he uses wikipedia.
Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 13:44:04


Moros 
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Ironheart, because Greenland is so large (the same size as the Arabian peninsula), 13 territories isn't that much. Especially if you look at the amount of territories he uses for Argentina.
And the Asia map is very weirdly curved, so I don't think he could use it. And I checked Wikipedia, but I can't find the 24 regions you're talking about.
Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 13:52:05


Issander
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Greenland actually has an area of 1/9 the one that south america has. Which means, that if south america has about 200 territories then Greenland should have about 22...

Greenland only seem to be that big on the other maps cause it lays far north. I'm using that map: http://www.freeworldmaps.net/printable/simple-printable-world-map.png

Of course this one also doesn't show everything perfect, and it looks bad in New Zealand and Syberia, but it's still way better in it than the usual maps.
Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 15:25:18


Moros 
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That's still about the same size as the Arabian peninsula, and the last one is easier to divide. And what about Antarctica?
Huge Earth: 7/25/2012 16:41:48


PKThunda
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Looks good so far, let me know when it's finished and I'll test it.
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 03:13:07


Issander
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Finished South America has 202 territories (though I may be forced to drop some of the territories if I won't be able to make them fit the army numbers in some other way.
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 03:36:25


Issander
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Sorry for the double post: I've decided how the bonuses will look like:

Small countries, 8 territories or less - bonuses will give exactly 100% the amount of territories.
Big countries will be divided into bonuses that will give you 100% - 1 army. Also, there will be super bonus that will rise amount of armies too 110%.
Large countries (USA, Canada, Russia, Brazil, China, India and Australia, maybe Indonesia) will be divided into bonuses that will give you 100%-1 army, then regional bonuses will rise this to 100%, and the superbonus for whole country will give you 120%.
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 04:34:21


AtomikDuke
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On Peru, its called Ayacucho Ica and Hauncavelica, please fix that
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 06:39:14


Issander
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Ok, South America done and playable (though one last thing - I have to make army numbers fit everywhere).

Since it's playable I'm planning to make it public after Antarctida and Mezoamerica are added, and then make next versions of this map. That would eliminate the need for testing the map since people will be "testing" it while playing normal games.
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 08:59:31


Moros 
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I honestly think the map would be very playable with only two continents. And testing games are more handy because then you can discuss about the map more quickly than with feedbacks.
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 08:59:59


Moros 
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^I honestly don't think...
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 09:26:57


Min34 
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I saw your post about the bonuses, but you didn`t use this in your map :\
These are a bit weird.
French Guyana (2 territory`s, bonus is 2) <-> Apama and Roraima (both 2 territory`s, bonus is 1), I suggest make all worth 1
there are also Piaui and Ceara (3 territory`s, worth 2) <-> Guyana and Suriname (both have 3 territory`s, worth 3)
Those are all in Northern South America.

Here are some missing connections:
Sudeste Rio Grandense <-> Southeastern Uruguay.
Vale Sao Franciscano da Bahia <-> Sudeste Piauiense (Piaui and Bahia)
Sudeste Piauiense <-> Sudoesta Piauiense
Pernambuco West <-> Sudeste Piauiense
Alagoas <-> Pernambuco West
Alagoas <-> Nordeste Baiano
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 09:48:46


Issander
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Read again what I've posted about the bonuses.

If you have French Guyana, that's small country. You get 100%.

If you're going for Brazil, that's large country. You'll get 100%-1 for each smallest bonus. If you manage to take whole region, you'll have 100% for that region's territories (sum up region bonus and small bonuses). If you get whole Brazil and sum up all bonuses, you'll get 120% for all Brazil' territories.

In simple words: going for big countries will give you less armies for their partial bonuses, but after taking whole country, they will give you more armies than small countries with the same amount of territories.
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 11:21:57


Moros 
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I think that's the perfect superbonus system. But will you also add continental bonuses? And if yes, what value are you going to use for them?
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 12:10:20


Min34 
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Here are some more missing connections. Antarcitca this time ;)
Ross Ice Shelf <-> Roosenvelt Island
unclaimed South Pole <-> New Zealands South Pole
West McRobertson Land <-> Lake Wostok
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 15:27:36


Issander
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Will be, but not really "continental", cause there will be about a dozen of them, each containing 100-200 territories - I want them to be quite equal in size. They will be giving 20%.
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 17:39:46


Ironheart
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Enderbel land is not included in the Norwegian claim and Rossevelt island is not connected to ross ice shelf
Huge Earth: 7/26/2012 22:18:47


Moros 
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What is the current map size? I think you should increase it, rather than to add bulbs. The max is around 3300*2400, and I think you haven't reached it yet.
Huge Earth: 7/27/2012 17:26:58


Issander
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The map is maxed in size.

1/4 of the job is done :) As a player I can't wait for it to be finished!
Huge Earth: 7/27/2012 18:06:26


Min34 
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Here are all the missing connections (also from my previous posts)

South-America:
Sudeste Rio Grandense <-> Southeastern Uruguay.
Vale Sao Franciscano da Bahia <-> Sudeste Piauiense (Piaui and Bahia)
Sudeste Piauiense <-> Sudoesta Piauiense
Pernambuco West <-> Sudeste Piauiense
Alagoas <-> Pernambuco West
Alagoas <-> Nordeste Baiano

Antarcitca:
Ross Ice Shelf <-> Roosenvelt Island
unclaimed South Pole <-> New Zealands South Pole
West McRobertson Land <-> Lake Wostok

Middle America:
Guadeloupe & Marie Galante <-> St. Kitts and Navis (Islands)
Southern Honduras <-> Northern Nicaragua
Eastern Chihuahua <-> Southern Coahuila

Africa (for so far):
Lesotho <-> Eastern Cape North
Delta & Bayelsa <-> Osun, Ekiti and Ondo (Nigeria)
Eastern Senegal <-> Central Senegal
Taza-Al Hoceima-Tauonate <-> Oriental
Taza-Al Hoceima-Tauonate <-> Gharb-Chrarda-Beni Hssen & Tangier-Tetouan

Europe is clear :)

If I would make a big/ huge map I would connect every territory, every time I finish a part of the map, cause it is easier now to look over the map and fix all missing connections (and know that there aren`t any left there, the next time you are going to check the connections) than it is when the map has finished. You`ll miss more missing connections when the map is finished than you would if you check them once in a while. But that is just a tip :)
Huge Earth: 7/27/2012 18:35:00

Grady
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Why isn't there a big South America bonus?
Huge Earth: 7/28/2012 00:59:53


JAM
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all of the south pole territories should connect to each other
Huge Earth: 7/28/2012 05:18:48


Issander
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@Min34: Thanks for checking it for me. I actually wanted to do this with the first part of the world complete, which will be soon (also, after that I'll start making the army numbers fit, and after that - I'll make this map public with first 600 territories if Fizzer agrees.

@Grady: And what is your guess? Maybe it's because the map is not finished yet?

@JAM: No, they shouldn't. Wheather or not territories with point border should be connected is not specified and for the map author to decide, and in my maps they are not connected.
Huge Earth: 7/28/2012 09:21:28

wigibob
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this map is looking really good just one question: are you going to add gibraltar?
Huge Earth: 7/28/2012 09:39:57


Moros 
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The bonuses in the northeastern US are way too small. So many 1-territory bonuses aren't going to make them any fun.
Huge Earth: 7/28/2012 10:10:37


Issander
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There already exist similar area in northeastern brazil. I've actually had to merge some stater of US, and not to mention that there are Carribean - a lot of 1 territory bonuses. But it's not as great starting position as it seems since there are some spread bonuses (UK and Netherlands Antilles) as well as they give "only" 100%.
Huge Earth: 7/28/2012 10:14:12


Min34 
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In the U.S.

Southern New York <-> Massachusetts

In Africa (new):

Niari & Kouilou <-> Ogooue-Lolo

I`m happy to help out ^^
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