also, the territory 'livonia' in latvia gives you 4 armies per turn instead of 1.

i'm pretty sure the "1 army for every 2 strategical points" was meant to create a situation where you got 1/2 an army for every strategical point, not an exponentially increasing number of armies.

No wonder optim hosts this map all the time.

How lame

retarded noob.....maybe you have not read the letters at left of the map....."THERE ARE 14 STRATEGIC POINTS ON THE MAP EACH 2 OF THEM GIVE 1 ARMY" with 6 strategic points at start you can have a combination of 15 pairs of strategic points.....15+5 (standard armies per turn =20.....but istabul is also..."EVERY COLOURED BONUS GIVE 1 ARMY AND REPRESENTS ABOUT 10 MILION PEOPLE" 15+5+1 = 21 This is maths not cheats.....

"This is maths not cheats..... "
"maybe you have not read the letters"

^Agreed. I legitimately think I just lost a few brain cells by reading that.

Prerequisites: Number of multiplayer games the player has completed must be at most 400.

Optim with 3580 played games, and very impressive statistics

Don`t like to play against equals Optim?

in a FFA?? -.-

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I don't follow if you are saying it's bad or not a problem?

put high prerequisites of games played or games wins in a FFa have no sense.....

They're pointing out that Optim:

filtered out everyone who had played more than 400 games.

Whilst he has played 3,500+

yeah, most of the #Elite! guys boost their stats that way by playing versus people that are low skilled. Most of them are only average or just above average skilled while their stats would say otherwise

ahh sorry ska......i thought it was at least 400....

This is how Optin have more wins than loses.

He simply hosts this map and take the bonuses. And this map really sucks. There are lot of people whose native language is not english so this kind of maps are confusing. So it is like cheating (use confusing maps to get more bonuses)

Once I said in public chat that let's take stratetic positions. After that Optim terminated the game lol. Optim Elite, we do not like you anymore.

I ALWAYS DISLIKE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS..... DON'T PLAY EUROPE COMPLEX IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY AND NEVER MAKE POSTS ON THIS....

STRATEGIC POINTS!!!!
now you know

Awesome guy:

No need to shout :)

But I think if you limit the players to only inexperienced players then it's less fair to assume that not all of them will understand the intricacies of as you called 'Real Life Europe' a "Complex" map.

EDIT:
*assume that all of them*

@envearoment most elite guys have high stats because are better than you, Do not lie...., if you think you're better than us, join ladder, or play agains us....is childish to say that we play against opponents of low-level, my games are in europe at least with 40%, 45% or 55%....and i never seen players like gnuffone , darkw1ng, idfdoggy, ottarin play in games with low wins rate .....if you have see them or me pls link here the games or dont be stupid with yours affermations......some #Elite! maybe is not very elite but i dont see any problem in this.....about optim, yes its stupid play with at most 400 games played, but i know him, he is more better than you , and i dont consider a ffa a competitive game and for this i dont kick him out of the clan...

I have bad opinion about Optim#Elite!, he always run from games with me

HHH, given his prereqs that is no surprise.

Really no justification for having such limitations other than wanting easy victories. It would be one thing if he offered to train/teach them but he did not appear to do so.

I like a lot of elite players and they are always good to play with ... but I must back up your comment about optim Heyheuhei he's given me one loss through running too quickly - even after he suddenly surrendered (upon hand breaking his iceland bonus early) the other team still thought they we're losing/the game was losable (We voted). And an easy victory from him surrendering abruptly. So I don't play with him anymore.

But also as Belzebub says gnuffone, darkw1ng etc are good opponents and better team-mates.