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Americas 1840s Map: 12/24/2019 10:49:22


Dragon
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So, Im back after being absent for a while. I tend to go on hiatus for a while and then come back and now that Im back I want to finish making this map.
Here is the Link: https://www.warzone.com/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=74497

Territories are done as well as naming, Bonuses are mostly done.
I also added megabonuses for croplands and fishing areas to mirror the importance of controlling land with resources and not just any territory.
I also plan to add bonuses for Coal and Iron but I think it would be a good idea to make coal and iron mines/refineries their own territory instead of just making a bonus for the lands surrounding a coal or iron mine/refinery.
the problem here is that since territories are already mapped it would be really hard to add additional teritories for such mines/refineries (specially for those located further inside, those located in coasts woldnt be that problematic) so I have three options here:
1. Add a small dot or shape to territories with a coal or iron mine/refinery and make that territory connect to another territory somewhere else dedicated to the iron or coal mine/refinery. There is some free space to the left so I could add a mini map there with territories dedicated to the iron or coal mines/refineries. (if I do this, let me know how much each one should be worth)
2. Make the bonuses for coal and iron one territory bonuses without adding additional territories.
3. Dont add Coal/Iron at all
So I wanted to hear your opinions to see what you would like to see. If you have any suggestion about anything else I should add let me know and I might add it.
Also let me know if you spot any mistake so I can correct it before the map is done.

I also plan to add boats (maybe?) to increase the amount of sea connections but Im not sure if that will work. If I do I probably would add some boats that connect Alaska and Oregon or something like that but Im not sure if I should add any for Central America because it would get rid of the strategical importance of the area for being a bottleneck.
Americas 1840s Map: 12/25/2019 15:36:56


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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For resources, #2 or #1 could work.

I'd say boats are good, and give bonuses for owning both ends of a sea route
Americas 1840s Map: 12/25/2019 15:38:26

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add boats and airplanes and trenches and weapons
Americas 1840s Map: 12/25/2019 18:30:25


Dragon
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I mean, as I said, I added megabonuses for Croplands and Fishing areas because they tend to be composed of vast areas meaning a great number of territories, so adding extra territories would be almost impossible for their case.
For Iron and coal since you said both work I'll try to do #1, I'll let you know when I'm done so you can check the map and tell me if it's good or not.
I could add the bonuses for owning both ends of a sea route but if I do this it might be a good idea to add ports, so you get the bonus for owning both ports and the boat, I'm not sure so let me know.
As for adding trenches, airplanes and weapons, I can't really add airplanes since it's 1840. Same reason I didn't add oil as a resource, not sure about how I could add trenches(?) But I might be able to add weapons if I find info about weapon factories that existed back then, if you could help I'd appreciate it
Thanks for the help
Americas 1840s Map: 12/25/2019 20:20:26

goodgame
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Maybe use the progressive bonus system for resource bonuses, as in bonus value is effected by number of territories owned in bonus.
Americas 1840s Map: 12/25/2019 22:32:13


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Sounds like a good idea, I'll try to implement that
Americas 1840s Map: 12/26/2019 09:13:07


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So I made some changes regarding adding a mini-map with additional territories for the coal and iron mines (Its pretty simple because the one I made before was a mini-map of each territory and its surroundings, it showed the exact location of the mine unlike this one, but the file size was huge so sadly, I had to delete it). Im not sure about how much each mine should be worth, I was thinking maybe 1 for coal and 2 for iron (since Iron is rarer) but Im not sure.

I also added a description for the progressive bonus mechanic for the resources, its on the box to the right. Let me know if it looks ok and if I should use different values.

I might be able to add boats, but only a few, maybe 4 or 5 because the file size is getting very close to its limit, so if there are any territories you believe, should be connected by a sea route let me know so I can give those priority. (with this I mean sea routes that are not obvious, EX: Florida and Cuba is obvious, but Alaska and Oregon isnt).

Edit: so I found this page while reading forums about reducing the size of a map file:
https://petercollingridge.appspot.com/svg-editor
It was sent by Belgian Gentleman and apparently it reduces the size of maps without messing them up, but it's an old post so idk if it still works. Has anyone on here tried it? Because as a test I was able to reduce the size of the file from 1.8MB to 1.3MB. I also tested it by making a new map family using the exact same file I'm using for the original map, then I named some lands and then uploaded the optimized version and the names were still there but I'm not sure if it will mess up the name of the territories or something for the original, I'm kinda paranoid lol.
Because having those extra 700MB could help a lot, I could add more stuff, while if I don't I'll only be able to add some boats and that's it

Edited 12/26/2019 10:28:16
Americas 1840s Map: 12/26/2019 23:02:31


Aura Guardian 
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It appears you are using freehand tool when creating your borders. I'd recommend using bezier curves in the future when creating maps of this size. It will help reduce filesize greatly.

I remember that tool. Not sure if it still works, but it worked in the past.

Edited 12/26/2019 23:03:19
Americas 1840s Map: 12/26/2019 23:14:24


Dragon
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Yeah, I know I used freehand for the continental borders (I did use pen tool for territory borders) because I wanted to make it look fancy, but it just made the map huge, next time I'll probably use pen tool for continental borders as well as territory borders.
And ok, if you say the tool works, I'll give it a try

Edited 12/26/2019 23:22:14
Americas 1840s Map: 12/27/2019 12:24:52


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So update, I added some sea routes and a blue blackground.

Sea routes are made of 2 ports (ports are their own territories) and one boat, you get a bonus for owning both ports and the boat. Sea routes work as overseas connections between two territories that normally wouldn't connect.

As for the background I just thought it would look nice, I chose a darker blue because a bright blue would look irritating imo. If you want me to remove it or add something else to the background let me know. I just added it as a test and if you think the map is better without it I'll just remove it.

Also let me know if the Minerals minimap looks ok, since I had to remove the previous one for being too heavy. If you think it looks too simple let me know and I'll try to make it look better

And let me know if the current simple sea routes are ok (boat connects to two ports and that's it) or if you want to see complex sea routes (boat connects to multiple ports)
Americas 1840s Map: 1/4/2020 16:26:34


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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don't forget connections for Caribbean islands
Americas 1840s Map: 1/4/2020 16:29:31

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Why can't I open map
Americas 1840s Map: 1/4/2020 18:16:15

goodgame
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Given the location of certain islands and relative coastal positions, I think it would be better to have more complex sea routes...and you most certainly need more of them, to connect islands and such.
Americas 1840s Map: 1/30/2020 20:42:17


𝔟𝔲𝔣𝔣𝔞𝔩𝔬 
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I would highly recommend putting the bonus icons on the respective territories. It's still playable because you drew thicker lines between bonuses but then you have to check to see what that bonus is worth and it's just a hindrance. Even if the bonus numbers have a constant formula, people might change them for diplomacy games and then it becomes annoying to always find and check what each bonus is worth. If you have to combine some territories to fit the icon, I think it's worth it since it's such a big map anyways and wouldn't be too hard to do.

Edited 1/30/2020 20:46:03
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