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Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 07:39:28


Ekstone 
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New CL is coming!!!! :D
Hey Warzoners/Warlighters, I am really excited! :D

The lineups look very exciting, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the results will turn out!
And I am very hope, that there will be one (or more) volunteer who will write cool CL news (in the past there were a few very good writer!)
The google sheet is very professional and easy to follow the results, but reading cool updates in the forum is something else ;)

Ok, I can't wait, but fortunately we have this prediction thread, so I am writing one :D

*remark: I don't know the team player community at all, so my prediction likely will be a garbage (because the CL is about the team points) ;)

Ok, the short version:
  • SNinja, ONE!, Lynx, Outlaws
    These four clans will fight for the podium positions, imo.
  • Apps, WG
    These two clans will fight to avoid relegation (but I can easily imagine that they would eventually be on the podium, I love how tough the field is!)
  • GG
    I give them now one of the relegation position, but this is only because I don't know many of their players, so I can easily imagine that they will be a surprise.
And the long version ;)

Ok, starting with the four podium aspirants.
I am curious which lineup type will be the winner. The concentrated one (SNinja and Outlaws both use only 7 players and 5 players will play in maximum slots!) or the deeper one (ONE! and Lynx both use 10 players and only 1-1 player with maximum slot)
  • SNinja
    Prediction: 1-3 places
    Their slots:
    • Rak 3v3, 2v2, 2v2
    • max 3v3, 2v2, 1v1
    • Almosttricky 2v2, 1v1, 1v1
    • Hergul 2v2, 1v1, 1v1
    • d-ceo 3v3, 3v3, 2v2
    • Tof 3v3, 1v1
    • Banner 3v3
  • I don't know well d-ceo, Tof and Banner, but the other four players... Rak, max, Almosttricky and Hergul is a very tough commando! :D I mean not (only) their skill (because there are many players with similar skills) but their real strength is the commitment and focus they can play! The very short lineup is very risky, because one player with full slots can destroy the all season of the team, but I cannot imagine this regarding those four players. And hey, they are the defending champion! :)
    So these are why I think they have a good chance to defend their title
    (and because the boredom producing Masters clan is missing :P)
  • ONE!
    Prediction: 1-4 places
    Their slots:
    • FSG 3v3, 2v2, 1v1
    • Beren 3v3, 2v2
    • malakkan 3v3, 1v1
    • PJ 3v3, 1v1
    • Buns 2v2, 1v1
    • Muli 3v3, 1v1
    • Adreso 3v3, 2v2
    • Suschel 2v2
    • Rheumakay 2v2
    • 89thlap 1v1
  • Buns joined us, FTW! :D
    Seriously, I am not sure he will play very focused way (but surprise me Buns! :P ), so the reason wasn't (only ;) ) Buns why I predict ONE! so high (nor my bias :P)
    Look at those players, all of them capable of outstanding performance! And they are stable A division team for years, with a wealth of CL experience. So far, something was missing to CL win, but this year it will work! I feel it! ;)
    Let's go ONE! !!!!! :D
  • Lynx
    Prediction: 1-4 places
    Their slots:
    • krunx 3v3, 2v2, 1v1
    • Rento 3v3, 2v2
    • Alex 3v3, 2v2
    • Kurdistan 1v1, 1v1
    • AI 2v2, 1v1
    • jimmy 3v3, 1v1
    • Jo Jo 3v3, 2v2
    • Hades 3v3
    • Bbraw 2v2
    • Wini 1v1
  • My first thought was they had lost Kicorse. Still very deep and strong lineup, but Kicorse is Kicorse ;)
    Seriously, they can win the CL again, they have the skills for this for sure. The question is their boot skill :P And the field is strong.
    We will see :D
  • Outlaws
    Prediction: 1-4 places
    Their slots:
    • Plat 3v3, 2v2, 2v2
    • Bonsai 3v3, 2v2, 2v2
    • Edge 3v3, 1v1, 1v1
    • Njord 1v1, 1v1, 1v1
    • Stales 3v3, 3v3, 2v2
    • schwarz 3v3, 1v1
    • aoc 2v2
  • Similar situation than regarding SNinjas, a very concentrated lineup with the risks involved. They have the skills, and able to the focused and dedicated play, and I am very wonder their 1v1 performance (with the Edge-Njord heavy axis :)) - their team play is traditionally strong
Ok, let's see the relegation battle
  • WG
    Prediction: 5-6 places (but a podium possible too :))
    Their slots:
    • Smoove 3v3, 2v2, 2v2
    • Guest 2v2, 1v1, 1v1
    • Summer 1v1, 1v1
    • Reza 3v3, 1v1
    • Hunta 3v3, 1v1
    • ChrisCMU 2v2, 2v2
    • Andersault 3v3
    • Great Expanse 3v3
    • Joey 3v3
    • clivan 2v2
  • Summer back? :O If she could play her old form, well that would be... (but I am not sure about this at all)
    So a very deep and decent lineup, but somehow I feel it won't be enough for podium fight. They have the skills, but I dunno, I feel this ;)
  • Apprentice
    Prediction: 5-6 places (but a podium possible too :))
    Their slots:
    • MoD 3v3, 2v2, 1v1
    • Meldarion 3v3, 2v2, 1v1
    • Nero 3v3, 1v1
    • Sloppy 3v3, 1v1,
    • Phoenix 3v3
    • Koopa 3v3
    • Moto 2v2,
    • surdiac 2v2
    • Min34 2v2
    • mtt 2v2
    • Marcus 1v1
    • Cowboy 1v1
  • The baby Masters :D
    Well, it was a very nice B division win last year (with a convincing team game), but now this is already the adult level ;)
    MoD and Moto will be strengthening for sure, and for example SNinja was able to win Division A immediately the first season after they won the Division B, but I dunno, just feeling too ;) (but I easy can imagine a podium in the end :))
    Btw, they have the deepest lineup. but I don't know this is good or not (when you have 3 slots, you know you have to concentrate 1000%, but if you have only one... from the other side with 3 slots (especially team games) you need a lot of time and there is a risk that you cannot spend the necessary while 1 slot comfortable)
Ok, and I hate put one team to the end, but I feel this :O
GG
Prediction: 7. place (but rooting for them to refute everyone! :))
Their slots:
  • Jack attack 3v3, 3v3
  • ADHDnI 3v3, 3v3
  • Po1onius 3v3, 3v3
  • bzox 2v2, 2v2
  • Insane 2v2, 2v2
  • linberson 2v2, 1v1
  • Orange 2v2, 1v1
  • Thrall 1v1, 1v1
  • JV 1v1
  • RynoFury 1v1
I put them in last place (as many others did), but maybe this will be the reason why they will soar! ;)
I mean, they will be able to play without any pressure! Their desire for proof can be an additional driving force!
And I put them last because I don't know most of their players. For me GG means FlyingBender, Ollie, MIFRAN, MisterT, Julkorn, Mike, etc. What a lineup it would be! :O But who knows, maybe these new players will efface the old legends? ;)
Anyway, very interesting that they use fixed teams (one team for the two 3v3, one team for two 2v2), I am wonder the outcome of this.

Edited 12/25/2019 07:42:55
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 08:57:12

Xenophon 
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Lynx will win by 30-40 points, Outlaws and GG will relegate.

Edited 12/25/2019 08:59:00
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 16:36:08


Phobos 
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Going to release my picks for my 2nd favorite division of this Clan league Division D: (Edited to reflect new information)

1) French Community: I don't know most of the players but knowing they are a veteran clan and looking at their ladder ranks they should easily buzzsaw through this division. Also I hold Zev in high regard but was unaware of the skill of numerous other players in the division.

2) Lu Fredd: Well organized and many skilled players, I like them for the second promotion spot. They have no weak spots in their lineup.

3) Polish Eagles: Menda, Lew, and Dziku combine for 2 team slots? They should do damage in 1v1s but maybe not as much as people think with all the other good players around. The lack of team strength will be their downfall.

4) Vikinger: So I've been informed a few of their players are very good. Still don't know about the rest of their lineup. For the moment slotting them between GW and PE.

5) German Warlords: Lucien Muller will do some damage in 1v1s, but I don't think they have the depth to compete with the rest.

6) The Last Alliance: I literally don't know anyone on their team, but everyone else has at least some good players.

Edited 12/25/2019 20:01:10
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 17:24:11


Master Cowboy 
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@glass I wouldn't say Zev is the best (no offense to him). There's a lot of good players in his division though.

Players I'd probably rate higher
Wazz
Phaeril
Niko
Automatix (formerly Jaesar of Masters)
Aquaholic
Lew
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 18:40:42


Phobos 
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Yeah I'm unfamiliar with the other FC players so have no way of judging their ability. If they have that many better than Zev though then they'll have a very easy time with the division.

Might be underrating Lew though.
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 19:31:10


Sailor Jerry
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Aquaholic and Automatix are with us Glass...
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 19:47:34


Phobos 
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Bah humbug. Teach me to post before checking. Well I've clearly rated Vikinger too low then. Division D will be very interesting.
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 19:51:54


Master Cowboy 
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Lew is very very good.

But FC has a lot of the players back they tied CL7 with.
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/25/2019 22:27:13


Viking1007
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yea, Lew has 82% 1v1 winrate… very good in ladders...
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 06:29:07


Master Cowboy 
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This is what I came with base off my tourney predictions. While it is way off what it will likely be it gave me a good idea of how to predict. The higher the number in a tourney the better.



If you want to do predictions yourself, you can take a copy of my sheer from here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15cVtc1eQEqxwgtF2ikGSwaN3EkDkjkiwrCjxvjneUr0/edit?usp=sharing
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 06:57:04

FiveStarGeneral
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Nice predictions (esp. ekstone, I can always feel your excitement when you write), was some fun reading :].

Wow thanks cowboy you really must want to join ONE huh? You even gave me two 6's. That probably means I can only disappoint you now yay..
Sninja 5th though big oof I like that ;D
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 14:44:47


Phobos 
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Really nice Cowboy.

In division B you have a 18 point spread between 3 and 7, and a 43 point spread between 2 and 3. I think you've underrated MH (DrApe and Hazlenut worth only 1 on MME seems the greatest example of this) quite a bit, but aside from that, that pretty much sums up the division.
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 15:31:50


Master Cowboy 
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I found predicting many tournaments hard. For instance, I know I underrated max and tricky in SNinja, and I'd be suprised if they didn't do better, that being said, I had a hard time picking them above the others.
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 15:34:49


Phobos 
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So I cowboy style made individual tournament predictions for division B. Sorry its not as pretty as his. It took me longer than 60 seconds to figure out how to upload an image of my picks so I stopped trying.


Clan BoA RoR MME Sze VI BIV BoA Fb Lan Gre MME 3v3 2v2 1v1 Total
FCC 2 5 4 5 5 6 3 6 6 1 6 35 56 84 175
Stats 5 4 6 6 0 0 5 5 5 0 1 45 48 48 141
MH 1 2 5 2 6 1 4 4 3 6 4 15 52 66 133
Corp 3 0 3 3 3 3 6 2 1 5 5 15 36 66 117
101st 4 3 1 1 1 5 2 3 2 4 3 35 12 57 104
VIW 6 1 0 4 4 4 0 1 4 2 0 35 32 33 100
Hawks 0 6 2 0 2 2 1 0 0 3 2 30 16 24 70

If I really wanted to put effort into it I'd predict how many wins each player/team would get instead of just ordering them weakest to strongest. For example in 2v2 MME I think Grendel and I are the weakest team, but I do think we'll get at least one win, and maybe even two or three. Likewise in Fb I think Guy Incognito is the strongest player, but I'll be stunned if ANYONE gets through that tournament unscathed.

Edited 12/26/2019 23:53:52
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 19:39:27


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1. ONE!
2. Lynx
3. SNinja
4. WG
5. Apprentice
6. GG
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 19:40:23

Modern Operations++
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this sounds exiting
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/26/2019 19:50:32


Ralph
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I predict a couple of boots for fcc 👢😊
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 12/31/2019 18:04:07


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT 
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(I'm waiting to do predictions until the 3rd to see if Yeon shows up)
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 1/3/2020 22:36:32


Nature
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Here is my prediction for division A.

1. Lynx
2. Outlaws
3. GG
4. SNinja
5. Apprentice
6. ONE!
7. WG
Clan League 12 - Official Predictions: 1/4/2020 05:33:02


Master Cowboy 
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I created a poll for Division A. I plan on creating polls for other divisions as well at some point.

Division A
Voting
http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/qcgttj/clan-league-division-a-poll
Results
http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/pqrreb/clan-league-division-a-poll/view
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