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Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:04:58


{TLA} LND
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Knowing that I am a pretty bad player when it comes to small sided strategy, and particularly my very limited range of templates that I even possess some strategy on, I am looking for a patient person who is willing to effectively tutor me in the ways of strategy.

I understand how stupid this looks, but I think it is probably the best way to find someone willing to do it (if no-one's willing, then so be it!).

Requirements: Min. Level 55, ideally over 60. Patience and willingness to play lots of multi-day games with me.
DM me if you're interested.
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:06:01

huddyj 
Level 63
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Any particular template you want to get better at?
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:13:17


riskboy88 
Level 61
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DM?
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:15:03


riskboy88 
Level 61
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I can do RoR
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:16:19


riskboy88 
Level 61
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But if you want to improve at strategy, you should join more strategic clan
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:26:54


{TLA} LND
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1: any template, particularly Clan League ones.
2: direct message
3: That'd be great!
4: Yeah, I thought about that. But I love Diplo mostly, so I like my Diplo clan, but I also want to get my strategy a lot better, since most community events are strategy game type.
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:28:41


riskboy88 
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Some clans are both roleplay and strat like CORP
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:29:53


TwistedRaven
Level 49
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I suck ;D
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 00:38:45


{TLA} LND
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@riskyboy yeah, that's what I'm trying to shape TLA to be like, but the clan's in a bit of a shambles atm.
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 08:07:54


Skaarfungandr the Mighty
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I would suggest playing the same templates repeatedly first, just to gain a basic understanding of picking, expansion, etc.. There's no point in learning a whole bunch of templates just to grab the basics of strategic gameplay. Stuff like Biomes of America with the layered bonuses, are a total mindf*ck if you are just getting into things. It's doable, but much, much harder than it needs to be.

So the most obvious way to accomplish this is through autogames and the 1v1 ladder. I'm not saying do everything this way, that gets boring. But start your learning focused on a single template. Once you got the basics down, you can always expand the principles to new templates. Also. If you really wanna make the best decisions possible, yes play multiday. But that's way too slow for practicing the basics. RT games are where its at. 5 Minutes is enough time to think turns through, unless you are hard-core analyzing your opponent's many possible expansion routes over a number of turns.

There's a bunch of guides out there too, that you could look at. This is a decent collection. https://www.warzone.com/Forum/168132-strat-guides

On a side note. Don't push the clan to adapt too quickly, it works better to encourage participation in strategic events, preferably of the more casual variety. I would say avoid events where you will be frequently paired with people from Masters/Lynx/insert other eliteish clans. You can definitely learn some stuff from those games, just by seeing what they do, but they are not appropriate competition for your clan, most likely.

The problem is that it's no fun to be repeatedly curbstomped by people who are almost literally playing in their sleep. So look for competition at a similar level first. You improve the fastest by being constantly pushed to take little steps. It's an easier adjustment, and vastly more sustainable.

edit: I'm no great shakes, with a couple of respectable ladder finishes. If I wasn't borderline inactive due to interests and RL, I would have tried helping you out, since you show actual initiative. Best of luck!

edit 2: I know in the past it was possible to invite high skill players to play games with you, and talk over a few bits of the game each time. I'm not sure if this is the case still, but it's worth pursuing with a little buttering up. Most people are happy to play towards a mostly free win, if they have the time.... ;)

Edited 12/5/2019 08:11:38
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 09:47:40


master of desaster 
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Avoiding good players as koala suggests is totally wrong. If you play bad players, you will just get on their level or slightly above. If you don't mind losing try to get games against good opponents, watch and analyze every turn of the game and ask if something is unclear
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 10:44:04


Skaarfungandr the Mighty
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That's not what I was trying to say.

My point is to not focus on competing with high skill players (yet). Especially as a clan. Because stuff has to be sustainable. If they wanna get hard core about improving, then yes, by all means go ZBD. But most people don't do that. And if they were like that, they wouldn't be asking here...?

If we really want to argue semantics, their goal should be throwing down with "decent" players, at least players trying to improve. I don't remember mentioning bad players anywhere at all. If this is in reference to the autogame suggestion, I outlined my specific reasons above. I also think it can aid in practicing counting, since picks are more... diverse.

Additionally. We could argue that the only goal is to practice appropriate principles. To that end, it literally doesn't matter who you fight, because the goal isn't to beat your opponent. It's to play accurately, given what you end up with each turn.

Even with that, at least we confirmed that picking good players to lose to can still be viable as a learning strategy.

Edited 12/5/2019 10:44:21
Strategy coach wanted: 12/5/2019 10:45:29


riskboy88 
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I got 50 v 24 income in that game and he voted to end.....
Strategy coach wanted: 12/8/2019 01:22:29


{TLA} LND
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Thanks koala and mod for your input, I'll keep it in mind!
@riskyboy, yeah, that was a cheeky thing on my part to provoke a reaction. Thanks for supplying it! 😉
Strategy coach wanted: 12/8/2019 01:27:36


riskboy88 
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wow pls dont vote when its 68-48
Strategy coach wanted: 12/8/2019 02:32:47

huddyj 
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I can teach you on Small Earth. It's very basic, but it does provide a quick and effective template for improving your strategic play. Once you master the basics on a small map like that, it's easier to implement them on a larger template.
Strategy coach wanted: 12/8/2019 02:42:23


{TLA} LND
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Sweet, that'd be nice!
Strategy coach wanted: 12/8/2019 02:42:49


{TLA} LND
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Oh, and risky, it was merely a joke...
Strategy coach wanted: 1/2/2020 01:02:47


❤HankyPinky
Level 58
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I can teach you FFAs. similar to diplos, but completely opposite in certain aspects. dm please.
Strategy coach wanted: 1/2/2020 04:36:46

Nauzhror 
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I don't mind helping people improve if they're willing to put in the work. I'm far from the best player, but definitely good enough to teach anyone the basics of a large variety of templates.
Strategy coach wanted: 1/2/2020 08:15:08


DanWL 
Level 62
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I don’t mind helping either for strategic 1v1. Been in top 100 before in the ladder.
Strategy coach wanted: 1/2/2020 09:34:58


riskboy88 
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wow
Strategy coach wanted: 1/2/2020 18:19:02

Nauzhror 
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Top 100? :O
Amazing.

Will you teach me?!?

Edited 1/2/2020 18:20:16
Strategy coach wanted: 1/2/2020 22:59:50


{TLA} LND
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Thanks all for the responses! Atm I'm playing mobile and so it's a bit fiddly to create games to certain templates, but I am happy for you to invite me to them. If you can't be bothered doing this (understandably), I'll just wait till I've bought a laptop (sometime in the next month or two) and then be prepared for the invites to stream in...
Strategy coach wanted: 1/3/2020 02:41:12

Nauzhror 
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Just reread the opening post and noticed this part:

Requirements: Min. Level 55, ideally over 60. Patience and willingness to play lots of multi-day games with me.

Levels really don't matter. Most level 60+ players are bad.

ie.

The people that responded to this thread have the following level makeup:

Level 49 - 898
Level 56 - 2214
Level 58 - 1251
Level 58 - 1866
Level 59 - 1274
Level 62 - 1676
Level 62 - NA
Level 65 - 2301

The number after the dash is the players peak 1v1 ladder rating if applicable.

The level 65 is the best player to have responded, but that's a coincidence, not an expectation that the highest level player in a group is the best. There are 6 people that responded that are higher level than me, mod (the level 65) is the only one I wouldn't expect to beat at least 8-9 times out of 10 aside from maybe koala who might potentially win 3-4.

Things like ladder stats, or tournament wins, etc. are far more meaningful than level or even winrate.

Ladder ratings use elo, which means a rating of 1500 is average for people on the ladder. Below 1500 is under average.

Someone who is level 60+ with a 1200 ladder rating is still a punching bag, just a punching bag that's played a lot.

Edited 1/3/2020 02:46:32
Strategy coach wanted: 1/3/2020 02:53:54


riskboy88 
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Lost my first games when i was level 48, that is why i'm 1200ish right now

see my graph trend
Strategy coach wanted: 1/3/2020 04:00:06

Nauzhror 
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No it isn't.

TheBelgian defeated riskboy88 20440943 1/2/2020 19:59:48 TheBelgian: 1400
Halftea defeated riskboy88 20340758 12/30/2019 21:28:56 Halftea: 1331
riskboy88 defeated RavenDelgado 20334542 12/30/2019 11:08:11 RavenDelgado: 1219
riskboy88 defeated Iaepetus 20380100 12/26/2019 19:14:22 Iaepetus: 1126
riskboy88 defeated Xanderaka 20334543 12/22/2019 02:44:38 Xanderaka: 1048
Deval defeated riskboy88 20312123 12/17/2019 01:27:21 Deval: 1115
riskboy88 defeated Misnomer 20310728 12/16/2019 07:21:07 Misnomer: 713
riskboy88 defeated josuerbt 20310727 12/16/2019 07:21:06 josuerbt: 1044
V@nD@mm€ defeated riskboy88 20310725 12/13/2019 08:20:48 V@nD@mm€: 1333
riskboy88 defeated TheThedde 20302568 12/13/2019 06:45:57 TheThedde: 1308
riskboy88 defeated uknome88 20239091 12/12/2019 05:44:36 uknome88: 994
Charlie Carter defeated riskboy88 20254225 12/8/2019 23:43:54 Charlie Carter: 1375
riskboy88 defeated Biff moves like a tree 20245792 12/7/2019 13:08:01 Biff moves like a tree: 1219
Time you Die! defeated riskboy88 20222931 12/7/2019 03:04:35 Time you Die!: 1293
riskboy88 defeated hades 20193494 12/7/2019 01:26:41 hades: 1021
riskboy88 defeated [wolf]japan77 20201368 12/5/2019 21:44:23 [wolf]japan77: 1118
bjrrn29 defeated riskboy88 20223597 12/4/2019 19:35:31 bjrrn29: 1509
Defender defeated riskboy88 20201366 12/4/2019 05:13:53 Defender: 1353
riskboy88 defeated OmniSlayer 20208399 12/2/2019 02:42:35 OmniSlayer: 1145
jasdanmoo defeated riskboy88 20083864 12/1/2019 23:42:39 jasdanmoo: 1384


That's a 11-9 record this month vs average opponent rating of 1202. That puts you at an estimated rating of 1237 over your past 20 games. Games expire. Your earliest games aren't impacting your rating at all.

Edited 1/3/2020 04:00:39
Strategy coach wanted: 1/3/2020 04:32:14


Aura Guardian 
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If you make the games, I will play. I would prefer if they are clan league or multiday ladder ( http://md-ladder.cloudapp.net/ ) templates, however.
Strategy coach wanted: 1/3/2020 22:38:56

Socrates92
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Here's your strategy: play against Mercer. He's an idiot so you'll win.
Strategy coach wanted: 1/3/2020 22:40:20

Nauzhror 
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1v1: 94 / 267 (35%)

Playing vs you seems to work too.
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