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Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 10:23:54

Jehovah 
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Gather round, everyone, gather round.

It is my honor to award the annual 'good citizen' award to G Arun for his fierce and unparalleled determination for the justice of Warlight to be held in his mighty and noble quest against Gnuffone the unbeatable! All give a round of applause to G Arun! Three cheers! Hip Hip.... hooray!

Edited 4/26/2014 10:28:30
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 10:35:41


Ineffable 
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it is up to Fizzer to decide if he should be punished and how all we can do is report him
btw
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2629416877

http://warlight.net/Profile?p=1627801903

http://warlight.net/Profile?p=907472903

all inactive 2 days thoughts?

Edited 4/26/2014 10:36:03
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 10:50:25


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Obvious alts. We already knew about Dark Vengeance but that just supports the suspicion of his new alt.

Jehovah, people get warnings for a lot less. Why should Gnuff get away with it?
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 11:08:36

NewWorldOrder
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where ever it says he won or holds a record just add(may have cheated to get this)problem solved? lets face it hes not that good any way.
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 12:01:49


Mudderducker 
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@Aranka I agree with you completly. But this follows on to my next point. Why does the person not change his account details after it is looked after. Similar to a house, the neighbours return the keys surely? Not a lot of people can be trusted in this world, let alone on the Internet. This is bound to happen many times. Though with this point I have no sympathy for Gnuffone. I just feel a banning of the account is to far.
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 13:06:02


Taishō 
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Taisho, he broke two rules, that's a fact:

http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Rules

- using someone else's account without their permission is forbidden


VII. WarLight Accounts
In order to access some features of the Service, you will have to create a WarLight Account. Users are restricted from use of another's Users Account without permission. Users are restricted from impersonating another User's Account. When creating a User Account, you must provide accurate and complete information. Users are solely responsible for the activity that occurs on User Account, and Users must keep Account password secure. You must notify WarLight, LLC. immediately of any breach of security or unauthorized use of a User Account.


According to this, the person who gave their password to Gnuff claims responsibility for their actions. Most notably:

Users are solely responsible for the activity that occurs on User Account, and Users must keep Account password secure.

As soon as you give your password to another person, you claim responsibility over ANY actions this person takes over your account, ergo the meaning of sole responsibility.

This part: You must notify WarLight, LLC. immediately of any breach of security or unauthorized use of a User Account.

Implies hacking, however because it is vague, can apply to a 2nd party using the account without permission. Again, since Gnuff has the password he can argue that he had permission.

- You shall not operate more than one WarLight account in a way that gives you an advantage in a game, tournament or ladder.


This part is also a little vague. For example, if he won the game with an alt and it had a different name, then he technically did nothing wrong. If however, the alts had his name and (with clear and concise evidence) he favored his main account over his alts, then he broke this rule. Operating alts is not illegal and it's hard to punish for this since alts who win gain prestige over the main account.

Also, anyone who has ever shared accounts has mixed their IPs into other player pools, so it becomes difficult to determine who should be punished for what. It then becomes difficult to determine which alts are Gnuffs and which belong to players who have shared accounts with Gnuff, unless Gnuff explicitly says that said account is his (which is only his testimony and difficult to take at face value).

impersonating other players


This is done countless time, often as a joke. If it were to get serious, Fizzer would no doubt respond, but at the same time "acting in a manner that satires another player's personality or actions" is different and NOT ILLEGAL. That's not really relevant, but I'd like to point this out.

The English language is easy to manipulate, that's why terms of service are often pages long and very precise. In most of these cases Gnuff can argue his way out of any serious trouble and at most, get a warning or temporary suspension.

ONE MORE THING, he gained all his trophies fairly. He become 1st on the 1v1 ladder and 2v2 ladder presumably without cheating. Taking these trophies away would be unjustified.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending him, but you guys lack hard evidence. Some are also trying to strip him of achievements he gained fairly...which could be a form of compensation, but realistically is unrelated.

Edited 4/26/2014 13:09:20
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 13:36:43


∀ÆGÜSTUS∀
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lol no need to keep arguing :) alts are for practice purpose xD for me
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 14:15:14


ps 
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i have nothing against Gnuffone, i like him as a person, but on principle i have to agree with what Arun wrote on the first page of this discussion. If there is no consequence for cheating then what's stopping hordes of trolls from following his example? I for one would not wish to have tournaments and ladders that i am participating in ruined by cheaters.
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 17:07:38


Addy the Dog 
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[cocks fedora] ah'm roundin' up a posse to capture the scoundrel gnuffone and teach him a lesson. any'a you pussies wanna join me?
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 17:25:28


Daisuke Jigen
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Just call me Master Lasso.
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 21:07:15


Mister Master
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sorry i am not aware of what happened, so can someone enlighten me? and give examples (games) too plz thanks
Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/26/2014 21:21:40


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Why does Gnuff not banned?: 4/27/2014 04:20:03


ChrisCMU 
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I already knew Marquis was him.

I dont see how timing matters either. This is Fizzers site, he can do what he wants whenever. There is no statute of limitations. Better late than never I say (if he does think Gnuff deserves something).
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