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Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 15:08:36


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OK, so this is only for those who actually care about origins of words and like classifying so

There are different classes of name, examples:
Western European
Slavic
Chinese
Japanese
Arabic

Western European is unique in the similar names exist throughout different languages, and this may be due to Western Europe's constant interaction

Such as Konrad, Hector, Michael, Christopher are very similar in German, English, Spanish, French...

The New World, USA and Canada and Latin America are descendants from Western Europe and thus use Western European names

I will not be talking in depth about Western European names because it is too complicated and that's not the point

This topic is what would black american names be classified as, more specifically the made-up names
Ex: Dequare, Shanaynay, Leshawn, Tyrique

These names do not fall under a language group... or do they?
These names were created by English speakers, so therefore they would be "English" names, but at the same time, these names were probably created by illiterate people, so do they hold genuine weight?
Exhibit 1: Creating words or misusing words, including mispronunciation, something common with this group, they seem very plagued with illiteracy

Or is this a clever attempt to destroy the English language?
Exhibit 2: Why would you not use traditional names, why would you invent names, filipinos often are named with English names, no excuse

Or is this an attempt to rebel against the "norm?"
Exhibit 3: If so, do you not realize how ridiculous these names sound, you are only alienating yourself

I still don't know under what language group should these names fall under, as they are made up and originate in USA
This trend does not exist in the Caribbean Islands, blacks use French, Spanish, English names

I think the origins of this trend originates from the Civil Liberty Movement, Illiteracy, "Black Empowerment," An attempt to create a new identity based on a racial group rather than culturally

NOTE: I do not mean all western European names are equally interchangeable
Example: An american mom names his son Jean Pierre
This sounds ridiculous, John Peter is the English version and that's what she should use

By western European, I mean the names are similar and should be used appropriately, I do not mean they are the same
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 15:34:24


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"Dequare, Shanaynay, Leshawn, Tyrique" I have never been to the US, or met many Americans (blessing in disguise maybe?), but these names cannot be real. Even black celebrities who use stage names such as Jay-z and Lil Wayne have 'normal' real names. Who tf is called Dequare or Shanaynay? I enjoy your posts Cacao, because I think a lot of them are professional shitposting, and I respect that greatly, but I have to ask if this is real, because recently I read that a US high school has opened up that is designed to help students hide in case of a school shooting, American decadence is truly remarkable.
Sadly Europe is not far behind.
Please provide sources of people called Dequare and Shanaynay.

Edited 9/27/2019 15:34:48
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 16:07:10


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@Elohim: Look up "Key & Peele: East/West College Bowl" or "Key & Peele: Substitute Teacher". There is some basis in reality for unusual African-American names, especially in sports, but they're not as common as this post might lead you to think.

Also look up "Le-a Ledasha" on Snopes (a popular, fake copypasta where "Le-a" is pronounced "Ledasha" because "the dash don't be silent"- keep in mind this is probably made up but you might literally find Americans IRL recounting this story as if it happened to them or someone they know). There's some deal of exaggeration about these names which seems to play well with common racial prejudices.

I'd hold off on judgement here, tbh, and if I had strong feelings about people having different names like "Daquan" (which is fairly pronounceable in English) but not, say, named like "Nguyen", I'd ask myself why. It's one of those things where if you care a whole lot about personal or cultural decisions other people are making (with no impact on you), maybe it's time to get a hobby and try to live a bigger life.
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 17:26:58


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Elohim, it's understandable you don't believe me
but if you look up these names in facebook you will see there's people with these names
I'm originally from California, and did not know these names existed until I moved to the south and saw people are actually named like this
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 17:34:04


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I had recepit when I made an order at a fast food place, the cashier was named Dequare
She was very fat and rude as you might imagine
As I said, this seems to be an American thing only
I would post people's facebook profiles but I don't think that's allowed
But this phenomena is very real
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 20:02:37

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It is possible that people make up names to avoid the confusion of people near each other having the same name. Just theorizing.
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 20:20:28


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Tabby ?
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 20:20:54


Elohim
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@Knyte: I don't hold it against anyone, and I definitely don't care what people call their children, I just think it does them no favours. I think Cacao explains it fairly well with his exhibit 2 and exhibit 3 entries in his original post. I don't want to discuss the topic, was just curious.

@Cacao: "As I said, this seems to be an American thing only" I know race relations are pretty bad in the US, I have a news app on my phone where I can personalise categories of news, and one of them is literally US race relations, maybe it's an attempt at establishing a black culture.

I won't comment anymore, just wanted to know if it was a shitpost.


Edit: I meant exhibit 2 and exhibit 3

Edited 9/27/2019 20:52:46
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 20:30:50


THE TungstenTrex
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West African names like Nygombe sound rad, ngl

also protip: just assume all of caocao's posts are shitposts, it'll do you good in the long run.
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 20:42:53


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I'm talking about Black American making up names, not other black names from other languages

I never shitpost, I think my posts have some enlightened view to them, albeit mixed with crude language
I always have a message I'm trying to get across
Shitposting is a very derogatory term, it's like the n-word for me

My posts consist of fresh vegetables that has been chopped up by an ax and served on fine china plates, and silver spoon, but then I throw the plate away and eat steak, because I like doing the natural thing that comes to me
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 20:50:54

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Speaking of food, there are few things I had before that I can say I don't like.

Sure you might have a point to your posts, just a reminder that you're not always good and right. Same for me and anyone else.
Classifying Black American Names: 9/27/2019 21:30:43


THE TungstenTrex
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ok coomer
Classifying Black American Names: 9/28/2019 02:31:00


𝘝𝘌𝘙𝘕𝘈𝘓 𝘝𝘐𝘕𝘈𝘐𝘎𝘙𝘌𝘛𝘛𝘌
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I hope you don't use these 4chan memes to describe people irl t-rex
Classifying Black American Names: 9/28/2019 16:35:50


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Americans have nothing to talk against weird names. They have well respected people called "Dick"...
Classifying Black American Names: 9/28/2019 16:48:21


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What are you talking about?
That's exactly why I'm talking about this

Black Americans make up weird names, that aren't English sounding, or any other language
Classifying Black American Names: 9/28/2019 17:25:01

goodgame
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Just live with it. It's not causing any problems, the only harm done is a few people getting annoyed.
Classifying Black American Names: 9/28/2019 19:04:31


THE TungstenTrex
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bagina
Classifying Black American Names: 10/1/2019 02:41:34


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these afrikan names come from the hausa language, official language of nigeria, niger, ghana, all countries where the majority of US slaves were bought.the language is embeded in dna which is y eventheir enlgish they must classify it as enlgish sublang pidgin...rabid defense of "axe you a wuestion"... etc etc.these are anglo/french names in PIDGIN... not difficult
Classifying Black American Names: 10/1/2019 03:53:53


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What are you talking about
These names do not originate from African, or any african language
They are entirely made up
They are made to be pronounced in English, but I wouldn't consider them English , cause you just can't make up words
Who do they think they are, some kind of playwright?
Classifying Black American Names: 10/1/2019 04:57:59


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reread it cacao it is as clear as day..i do not feel to explain myself more than i have to
Classifying Black American Names: 10/1/2019 05:01:40


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I really don't know if you're black
Or someone parodying a black person

So sad
Classifying Black American Names: 10/1/2019 05:13:49


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downvoted
Classifying Black American Names: 10/1/2019 16:51:43

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Fact: technically speaking, all words are made up. Where can words originate other then the human mind? It's just a matter of which words we're used to and which we're not.
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