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Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/14/2019 11:10:54

Alex
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Update: They may not be cheating. Instead of conspiring with a non-mover as I originally suggested, these two may just be exclusively playing a very lopsided map with a nearly unbeatable strategy, as Norman suggested below. I don't really understand why people would do that, so I didn't consider it as an option and I'm not sure how to confirm that. I'd like to assume that's what they are doing, as I don't see how else to reconcile the near-perfect team win rates vs average individual win rate. I called them out in the public chat of the game before posting this, and one responded that they are not conspiring and are willing to end the game if the teammate is booted.

Original post:
While cheating is not explicitly allowed or really possible, it can be done by sandbagging an account to boost others by forcing a surrender / dropout. I joined an open 2v2 game on a fun map. They set the rules so that players do not turn into AIs when booted, so what these 3 may have done (or 1 or 2 on multiple accounts) is have the 3rd person, assigned to my team, not move and therefore be auto-booted. I would then be left in an impossible-to-win 2v1 scenario.

This theory is supported by the user having exceptionally high win rates on team games relative to 1v1 games. Of his 269 2v2 games, he has won 94%. That is outside of just being lucky or highly skilled. It looks like he is rigging the games. He has >95% win rates also on 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5. If he were highly skilled his 1v1 win rate would be comparable, but it is 61%.
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19086882

Trying to report someone for cheating simply redirects to a wiki page saying that cheating isn't possible. That's not very helpful. So... how do we confirm that this theory is sound and, if so, take action? I'd like to not be hoodwinked by some jerk trying to con people just looking to play a fun game.

My teammate hasn't responded to nudges or chats. A teammate dropping out is an accepted risk, but I didn't get suspicious until I looked at the other team's win rates, and it's been rare in my experience to not make the first move. Usually someone gets auto-booted later in the game.

Edited 7/14/2019 17:42:08
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/14/2019 11:33:05


IRiseYouFall
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pls link the game
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/14/2019 11:45:31

Alex
Level 26
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Edited the post with the game link. My teammate hasn't made his first move. Game started 2d 8h ago, and he will likely be booted in 16h.
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19086882
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/14/2019 11:58:51


Kwame 
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set boot rates this will help with cheaters
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/14/2019 14:17:47


Norman 
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I can't see anything out of the ordinary here.

- The map is highly unbalanced, there is full distribution and there aren't any prerequisite.
- Teams are manual so the host just invited his friend. They have a predefined strategy in order to win the game.

There are lots of preset teams where the friends playing together have similar high win rates. Winning 19 out of 20 games seems quite believable to me and this doesn't take an extraordinary amount of skill.

At first glance of the map, your opponents will most likely just pick the OP fortress rings in the west and any other strategy will make you immediately lose the game to them after picks. I see no possible way to beat those fortress rings and if they get them they can play the game pretty much as bad as it gets, they will still win the game.

Edited 7/14/2019 14:29:24
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/14/2019 17:23:04

Alex
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Thanks for the detailed reply. That is a good theory that they just play the same map and have a nearly unbeatable strategy. The fact that my teammate failed to even make his first move drew my first suspicion, and those win rates are ridiculous but plausible given what you said.

Is that pretty common here to have some people set up maps and games that are nearly impossible to lose if you know the catch? I mostly play with my friends, and we always choose different maps with standard, balanced settings.

Edited 7/14/2019 17:44:16
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/14/2019 23:05:43


Joi179 
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there isnt an ubeatable strategie on any map. simply more experience than the average player. it wouldnt be t hard to win 100/100 games if you try to not mess around and lose that way. if you are experienced that is.
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/15/2019 11:05:32


GeniusJKlopp
Level 61
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It's more important that cheaters named tris rig raffles
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/21/2019 13:17:29


Norman 
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Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/21/2019 13:29:05


Lelouch Lamperouge
Level 24
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GeniusJKlopp is the player actually rigging raffles with scripts. How to report this?
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/21/2019 16:02:28


DanWL 
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^In global chat, click on the player’s name then click View Full Profile then click Report then fill in the reason. Include screenshots of him ‘rigging’ raffles.

Mods will get to the report in their own time.
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/21/2019 17:14:04


Cowboy 
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it's impossible to rig the raffle
Cheaters Rigging Team Games: 7/21/2019 17:28:06


GeniusJKlopp
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It is possible, but I don't have the abilities, unlike tris, who wins 9 in 10 in which he participates
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