no, hauptmann.. it does no longer matter. Whoever needed a lesson, took it and is ok now.

Wow after reading all this I'm severely disappointed on gnuffone. Logging into his friends account to look at his picks in the 2v2 ladder? That's plain wrong and I would be embarrassed to be gnuffone

Gnuffone is sh*t. End of story.

Nobody asked, Anonymous Coward.

A quick thread search solved my problem, Fridge :P

Some interesting threads that have been archived, wish some of the players involved were still active on the forums.

Hey Gnuffone, I just heard that you were so devastated after Relite beat WM 14-3 that you just couldn't believe it was true! So you made up a fantasy that I had hacked into szeweningen's account to see what moves you guys made. I hate to break it to you, but that 14-3 result had no cheating involved (at least Relite didn't cheat).

As an act of revenge for this imaginary hack, you infiltrated Relite/GG with an alt of yours. You also abused FlyingBender's, your supposed friend's, trust and started spying on us and our games with Bender's account, as you had his login data. You probably also downloaded the strategy guide that was only meant for GG. Well, I hope you got much out of it, you little thief, and that it helped you gain a standing in 20A that is above the mediocrity where you actually belong.

In case this thread was not created solely for self-promotion, I wish you good riddance!

Lol idk what to say Gnuff. We had some good times in games, but you've done some bad stuff man.

I knew about some stalling, but did not know about the scandal with GG. Interested to hear his response to that.

Gui, Belze, Odin. All right things reguarding gnuffone the unbeatable..

There is not a real answer. He did those things.

He had my login data. I trusted him and paid the consequences. 2v2 ladder faked (me and Michel could be first in ladder), realtimetourneys faked by him. He knew I don't play on weekends on later hours and he used this..
He try to win the nation cup making disquilified others nations when he was loosing..
He faked Ladders, tourneys and realtime tourneys..

He wrote BS on everyone people and clans. HHH not skilled, gui was better in past, GG have passwords of WM, JSA have alt in every clan, TWM picks poorly, apex are noobs, szeningen got pwd of people, WM Red (anonymous) is noob I will never play with him in tourneys and so on..

We can't know how many times he has sabotaged GG, maybe we dont even know all of them

Edited 3/6/2014 22:38:56

My earlier comments about Gnuffone should be ignored. He told me he suspects Szeweningen of being the dark vengeance and like a fool, I believed him. He does not deserve his impressive résumé, which changes my opinion on his being the most accomplished warlight player. If you have to game the system and cheat to do some of those things, how can you say you are the best ever?

I also hear of him cheating another thing than just the ladders. Overall, he's a great player, one of the best ever, but also a very deceitful person.

Also what flying bender says gnuffone says about me is false. My brother is in Gg so ofc I can look at their chat if I want, but I don't really get anything out of spying on a clan. I don't have any alts in clans currently and have only ever had some in a couple clans, regl and x.

What gnuffone says about me sucking at team games is somewhat true. I beat him 3/5 in 2v2 with alts. But I am very below him and my hand in 3v3 Europe.

Edited 3/7/2014 00:17:54

I like Gnuffone, he's probably a good guy somewhere, the only thing to know is that he puts himself before others, it is a game afterall. If you are completely deceitful what are you gonna do. It only shows that he is self centered (Which I already knew :))

Also i thought Belzebu and Gnuffone were best friends since they were partners on the ladder, but damn Belzebu is wiping Gnuffone off the floor!

I think if Gnuffone didnt retire, he would be banned for all this stuff that is being announced on the forums.

And guess what guys, theres actually more cheating stuff he did that did not get announced on the forums yet! I wont be THAT guy and post it, but trust me, theres more

And when will Gnuffone remove his alt from the ladder?

Edited 3/7/2014 01:29:01

Only played twice against him with this account and he lost both, never considered him a great player, but bragging about his achievements is low, in my opinion.

Well if Belzebu and Flyingbender are listing dishonest things Gnuffone did, I might as well say one thing for now.

1. Gnuffone cheated in one 3v3 game of [20A]. Me, Gnuffone, and Falker vs Michael, Anonymous, Fridge at 3v3, decides the winner of the tournament, and could determine who wins [20A] it seemed at the time. Gnuffone tells us before the game that we will win, I figure he is just being cocky. We have almost won about turn 5, Michael private messaged me about Gnuffone cheating and using Fridge's account. He then sends me a screenshot of his private chat with Fridge, and sure enough, Gnuffone used Fridge's account similar to how he did Flyingbender's in the 2v2 ladder. I told Michael that I would deal with this if it affects the outcome of the #1 spot in [20A].

There's 1-2 more things but I will keep confidence for now. Also, he told me many of his secret alts, but I will not reveal them, especially since I am not even sure they are true, and might hurt the reputation of those players if he was lying to me.

wow...he used Fridge's account in our 3v3 game? Not cool dude... JSA why didn't you tell me? I am not happy being part of a group/team that cheats.

I am curious to see what Fizzer thinks about all of Gnuffone the Invincible's cheating.

Meh, he can't be that evil, can he?

Here is the private chat in the game referred to by JSA:

Pre Turn 1

Gnuf I will make pick soon :P

Gnuf I will make pick this afternoon when I nack to my pc

Gnuf back

Gnuf mirror me guys

Gnuf complete mirror.

Gnuf pay attention on pick in the exact same order ;9

Gnuf thanks

Gnuf 8this game could let me win [20] league) :P

Turn 1

Falker transfering to Lovech on turn 3

Falker im thinking michael has the benelux in 1 combo....should i stall more and attack eastern france with 9 last turn?

Gnuf yup

Gnuf but you need to delay more

Gnuf so transfer 2 only to Lovech and attack with 1 Burgas and 1 Burgas for gain 2 moves

Gnuf and with 3 only to lower austria, one to upper austria. in this way you will get last move and take eastern france :)

Gnuf @JSA +1 Trenciansky +4 Lower Austria, 1st move full Nitra, then 3 to Banska Bystrica and 2 to Kosice ( i attack you ofc) move to southeast glacier

JSA got it :)

Turn 3

Gnuf this looks good :)

Falker lol red transfered back to Michael instead of taking Eastern Norway

JSA lol youre right

JSA I didn't see that the first tiem i watched the turn play out :)

Gnuf yeah i noticed it, for this i say look won

Gnuf +8 southeast glacier, delay with trenciansky lower austria atatck with 4 croatia

Turn 4

Gnuf jsa +1 croatia +4 southeast glacier +3 suour, 1st move 3 to falker in ireland

gnuf then delay with del-dunantul nitra banska bystrica and attack with 3 bosanska krajina

Gnuf @falker, i think you should deploi +2 western ireland +3 southern belgium, adn run to netherlands as 1st move. they may try to kill you if the help of fridge

Turn 5

gnuf falker +5 western ireland, jsa +4 croatia +4 suour, 1st 4 to falker in ireland

gnuf now i go full lapland and break red

Turn 6

gnuf they have 9 9 5

gnuf jsa +8 suour and run to noroaustur

gnuf falker +5 western ireland

gnuf next turn they lose norwey and is over

turn 7

gnuf falker +5 netherlands

gnuf jsa +8 suour

gnuf @jsa i changed my mind, ++4 +4 suor del-dunantul

gnuf 1 to del-dunantul from slk, and 1st move run to noroaustur

turn 8

gnuf @jsa you can folder north, i am running to icelan

gnuf so i say +8 lower austria and transfer 3 to lower austria 1st move

turn 9

gnuf BTW i checked now, we win the RR, however other games will ended!

gnuf congrats guys!

gnuf this is my 2nd tourney of [20]A that i win =)

JSA :) Even though I did nothing to contribute, it will still look nice on my profile ;P

gnuf ahah. i like how Falker is talkative ;)

falker talk talk talk

falker talk some more

falker blah blah blah

falker and that is why i think how i do...

falker Amen

gnuf lol


Feel free to do your own comparison on the game vs the private chat. I typed the private chat as is... typos and all. I was too lazy to capitalize the proper nouns or write out the speakers names in full, but you get the point...

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5381493

I will say this much... this tourney will not be on my list of favorite tourneys... This tourney is tainted and I for one am NOT a happy camper!!!

WL could use anonymous games with absolutely no team chat. Let everyone play in the dark based on what they see. Puppeteering ruins competition.

Edited 3/7/2014 08:58:35

Qi: i agree https://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warlight-features/suggestions/1095383-anonymous-games

well, if all this turns out to be true it's certainly sad.