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Colin Kaepernick: 9/4/2018 23:51:43


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It is very ironic that Nike, a company that exploits third world labor in sweatshops in terrible working conditions and refuses to remove polyfluorinated chemicals from their production process, which is dangerous to the workers, even though Adidas has found viable alternatives is trying to soften its image by connecting with a popular image among its audience.

Oh wait. That isn't ironic at all. That is just the what all these companies do when they are in a bad PR spot.

Colin kaepernick was the worst preforming and worst ranking NFL quarterback when he was laid off. His first season was a good season (taking his team to the playoffs but falling short) but then everybody figured out his strategery and he plummeted.

This is very common among quarter backs. They have an awesome debut but then suck for the rest of their career. To explain how terrible of a QB Kaepernick was, he was ranked 32 out of 32 quarterbacks when he was laid off. So dead last. Worst quarterback in the NFL.

Colin was unemployed not because of racism but because he is a terrible quarterback. Also, I don't know why we assume that Colin knows even one thing about public policy. He is just a football player.

Anyways, Colin isn't even unemployed anymore because Nike is going to pay him millions. Its all stupid and ridiculous.

P.S. I can see that we finally broke Cata because he isn't commenting on the US centric threads. WOOOH! WOOH!

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Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 00:03:33


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Who is the person named Cata?
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 00:05:22


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Colin Kaepernick makes millions in a sponsorship deal for a fucking corporation (that abuses workers in third world btw) being an "activist". He's an "activist" on behalf of the political establishment that allows black communities to continue to fail. He probably hates poor people. Nike certainly does.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 00:10:10


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But what I find amusing is that the so-called progressives find inspiration for change in the publicity stunts of corporations and the NFL! How far the Left has fallen in a century! If you think the NFL and multinationals are an engine for true progress you are an idiot plain and simple.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 00:11:52


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^ Its all neo-liberal commercialized revolution.

Resistance has become a brand that you can buy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG7y8J0DXhU
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 00:12:36


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We agree for once
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 00:37:06


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^ Its all neo-liberal commercialized revolution.

Resistance has become a brand that you can buy.


There is a scary truth that the younger generation has to lead us into the future. You are angry when you are young. My parents generation sits amused.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 10:56:49


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Yeah fuck people with money caring about someone or something other than themselves!


This right here. Fuck Colin Kaepernick, LeBron James and Rachel Dolezal.

Agent Orange 2020.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 11:07:17


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Colin kaepernick was the worst preforming and worst ranking NFL quarterback when he was laid off... he was ranked 32 out of 32 quarterbacks when he was laid off


There is no objective QB ranking system. You seem to be cherry picking one metric to make your point. Clearly he was not the worst QB in the league.

His first season was a good season (taking his team to the playoffs but falling short)


'Taking his team to the playoffs' = a few yards from winning the Super Bowl lol...

And took them back to the NFCCG the next year.

I don't know of any QB with more success in their first two years as a starter and if there are any, the list is tiny. Out of the gate, he looked like a first ballot hall of famer. But as you say...

but then everybody figured out his strategery and he plummeted.


Yes. People adjusted to his strengths and he became much less effective. He literally changed the game though. Changed defenses schemes. Like Steph Curry has done in the NBA (though he has excelled anyway). Not many players can say they did that.

Colin was unemployed not because of racism but because he is a terrible quarterback.


This is laughably untrue. You seem to forget there are over 100 quarterbacks employed in the NFL with starts, backups and practice squad guys. He's not worse than all of them. Several front offices and basically every single observer besides racists like you acknowledge this.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 11:11:09


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The actual reason he is not employed:

Because he's not good enough to make him worth the distraction he would cause. If he were a top 5 QB he'd be employed. At this point he's probably viewed as a competent starter or great backup and that's not worth the media circus it would cause.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 11:20:40


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Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 11:22:55


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And whose fault is it that a slightly skilled QB (definitely not the greatest) that takes idiotic unsupported positions in obnoxious ways isn't liked by anyone?
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 12:12:03


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none of the assumptions your question is based on are accurate so the question itself is meaningless.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 12:15:18


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Whose fault is it that the average IQ of Trump supporters is lower than 35 and this is the reason they can't properly digest cheese or information?
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 16:16:11


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How dare you call me racist without evidence? You are being racist against a Potawatomi-American and I demand an apology.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 16:17:23


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Glad we agree on everything else I said.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 16:41:37


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Lol
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 21:18:46


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I don't know why we assume that Colin knows even one thing about public policy. He is just a football player.

I dont know why we assumed that MLK knew even one thing about public policy. He was just a priest.

Now, I'm not saying that the issues are equal, or that Kaepernick is even half the man MLK was, I'm only pointing out that this specific comment is irrelevant.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 21:31:39


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Sorry for the long post, but apparently making accurate claims in a forum post isn't sufficient unless you fully support them with source material.


Pre-Kneeling Knews Knarticles:

Colin Kaepernick Isn't the Answer at Quarterback for 49ers, so What Is?
Colin Kaepernick isn't a franchise quarterback. He's barely a starting-caliber quarterback at this point in his career, and the San Francisco 49ers should adjust their future plans accordingly.
-https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2575669-colin-kaepernick-isnt-the-answer-at-quarterback-for-49ers-so-what-is

What happened to Colin Kaepernick?
Remember that $126 million contract Colin Kaepernick signed that had $61 million in “guaranteed” money and seemed like a great deal for the 49ers youngster when it was signed? Then remember how it turned out all those numbers were garbage and San Francisco had basically signed Kaepernick for a series of one-year deals? Well, that contract might turn out to be as prophetic for the Niners as it is disastrous for Kaepernick. Here’s why:... (Article goes on to explain factually why Kap was so bad)

4. Kaepernick is 33rd in QB rating, third from last among qualified signal callers. Andrew Luck is last though, so maybe there’s hope?
--- Apparently there's something to a QB rating and isn't actually cherry-picked, at least among sports journalists, and directly contrary to the OP's assertion.
-https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/what-happened-to-colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-49ers-stats

Colin Kaepernick Used To Be Russell Wilson, Bro
Matthews must have consulted Pro-Football-Reference.com before kickoff: These days, Kaepernick is no Wilson. Over this season and last, Wilson ranks ninth among qualified1 quarterbacks in ESPN’s Total QBR metric, while Kaepernick is 19th. The gap that emerged in 2014 has only widened through the first quarter of the 2015 campaign. After his poor performance versus Green Bay, Kaepernick ranks 26th (out of 32 qualifiers) in QBR this season, a startling placement for a QB once predicted to rival Wilson for years.
-https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/colin-kaepernick-used-to-be-russell-wilson-bro/

Colin Kaepernick is still struggling and it is going to cost him $100 million

That Kaepernick struggled is not a surprise. Throwing for 600 yards, four touchdowns, and no interceptions against the New York Giants and Baltimore Ravens, two of the five worst pass defenses in the NFL, is a lot easier than doing it against the Seahawks' Legion of Boom secondary. More importantly, for Kaepernick and the 49ers, struggling has become the norm, and it is going to cost him millions.
-https://www.businessinsider.com/colin-kaepernick-49ers-contract-2015-10


Above presents a sampling of Google News articles if you limit news from Jan 1, 2015 to Aug 1, 2016. Kaepernick started kneeling during pre-season games in Aug 2016.

Why did he say he's kneeling?
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-sat-during-national-anthem

So, the crux of his stated reason for kneeling is that blacks are murdered by police more so than whites.

But, according to the alt-right Washington Post:
"While many of the year-to-year patterns remain consistent, the number of unarmed black males killed in 2017 declined from two years ago. Last year, police killed 19, a figure tracking closely with the 17 killed in 2016. In 2015, police shot and killed 36 unarmed black males."
-https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/nationwide-police-shot-and-killed-nearly-1000-people-in-2017/2018/01/04/4eed5f34-e4e9-11e7-ab50-621fe0588340_story.html?utm_term=.a3a3bc8b9265

Seemingly, if Kaepernick really cared about unarmed blacks being murdered by police, he should have said something in 2015, when nearly 2x the number of unarmed blacks were killed by police. However, methinks that he was having a good career and getting plenty of playing time during 2015. It would be a shame if 'something happened' to that shiny new career he had, you know what I mean?

Maybe if the Washington Post wasn't so extreme Alt-right, they would actually give credence to correcting for the number of police encounters within each racial group, and also correct for the precentage of violent crime committed by each group. They tenderly step around the issue here: But it is true that a disproportionate amount of murders and other violent crimes are committed by black Americans. Because detailed FBI data on crime can lag by several years, the most-cited statistics on this point refer to 2009 data. According to that data, out of all violent crimes in which someone was charged, black Americans were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the country’s 75 biggest counties — despite the fact that black Americans made up just 15 percent of the population in those places. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.af639fbcb17a

The WP goes on to attempt to discredit this line of reasoning, but truly anyone with common sense should be able to determine that areas with population groups that commit 3x the crime as other groups will have more police encounters, the more of which will end up in a fatality.

And if quoting the alt-right WP wasn't enough to make the OP's head explode, here is an extreme alt-alt-right-alt-right-right-alt-far right article that completely debunks everything that Kaepernick claims he is kneeling for.

The FBI released its official crime tally for 2016 today, and the data flies in the face of the rhetoric that professional athletes rehearsed in revived Black Lives Matter protests over the weekend. Nearly 900 additional blacks were killed in 2016 compared with 2015, bringing the black homicide-victim total to 7,881. Those 7,881 “black bodies,” in the parlance of Ta-Nehisi Coates, are 1,305 more than the number of white victims (which in this case includes most Hispanics) for the same period, though blacks are only 13 percent of the nation’s population. The increase in black homicide deaths last year comes on top of a previous 900-victim increase between 2014 and 2015.

Who is killing these black victims? Not whites, and not the police, but other blacks. In 2016, the police fatally shot 233 blacks, the vast majority armed and dangerous, according to the Washington Post. The Post categorized only 16 black male victims of police shootings as “unarmed.” That classification masks assaults against officers and violent resistance to arrest. Contrary to the Black Lives Matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from black males than black males have to fear from the police. In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer. Black males have made up 42 percent of all cop-killers over the last decade, though they are only 6 percent of the population. That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers—committed vastly and disproportionately by black males. Among all homicide suspects whose race was known, white killers of blacks numbered only 243.


-https://www.city-journal.org/html/hard-data-hollow-protests-15458.html

Also, why isn't he in the NFL in the first place?
Because he opted out of the 49ers contract himself. His contract was supposed to keep him at the 49ers until 2020, 2 more years from now.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18796373/colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-49ers-opts-contract


TLDR:
If Kaepernick gave a damn about anyone but himself, he would have said something in 2015 when blacks were being killed at 2x the rate in 2017. However, his career was going well then and it would have been a sacrifice for him.
If Kaepernick gave a damn about black lives, he'd squarely take on the root cause of violence within the black communities, rather than scapegoating 'police violence' and a racist oppressive country (all the while idolizing Che).
If Kaepernick cared about playing football, he would have stuck it out under contract on the 49ers.

So, I've since proven that by the time Kaepernick started kneeling, he was already washed up. Stating that there are 100's of QBs in the league does not alleviate that Kaepernick was a bottom-performing starting quarterback.

And as so many people already pointed out, taking a multi-million dollar contract so a corporation with horrible worker's rights violations attempts to make money - all the while claiming you are fighting oppression, is the epitome of irony.

And Wally will be left wondering why the racists on the right don't believe everything he says.
Colin Kaepernick: 9/5/2018 22:04:40


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Now, I'm not saying that the issues are equal, or that Kaepernick is even half the man MLK was, I'm only pointing out that this specific comment is irrelevant.


Trying to compare Colin Kaepernick to MLK really shows you how far we've come.

cheers everybody.

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