I've said before on stream and on here as well.

Couple of reasons/theories that might combine to the overall decline of open games and or users in general:

Warzone draws a very specific audience (free to play, strategy lovers)
Some of the long time users are either just chilling in QM or moving on to other risk-like games
The mobile version of the game IMO doesn't draw the average person in
Flash vs Unity might have detered people (idk as i have the standalone)
Lack of moderation of the community
Summer so all the kids are working, out of school, or going outside

The list goes on. We all can be wrong though. Fizzer says it's summer so there is less people on. But I sadly feel like there ain't many people who are playing BOTH open games and Quickmatch. That's just me.

Edited 8/9/2018 01:03:36

My stats show that more real-time games are being played than ever before. So the subject line is wrong -- real time games are increasing.

Now I understand that you feel open real-time games may be declining (as opposed to private and quickmatch games). I haven't looked at stats on this, so I'm not sure if that's true. But I have some theories:

1. Your prereqs could be too strict.
2. Your blacklist could be too large.
3. Make sure not to use fixed teams in open games, as this really turns away people. If you are, try switching to random teams and I bet you'll see a dramatic increase in traffic.
4. Use more interesting maps / settings / game name.
5. Warzone traffic always dips a bit in the summer, and always picks up again once school starts. You might just be experiencing the summer dip.
6. Quickmatch could be taking some of that traffic away from Open Games. This is probably due to the fact that games start quicker, and they're also matched based on skill so you're more likely to get a fair match than open games.
7. While iOS / Android use is growing fast, desktop use isn't growing as fast since new players are turned off by Unity's slow loading speed. I'm very close to fixing this issue.

Edited 8/9/2018 01:16:12

My stats show that more real-time games are being played than ever before. So the subject line is wrong -- real time games are increasing.

You know fizzer, It would be really cool to see warzone stats over time.

Hi Great Cobra,
Fixed teams are a problem specially if your stats are very good.
It's easier to fill your team, but dificult to find opponents...
In your opened game, your team has 1v1 of 67%, 72% and 85% winning rate...
Maybe random teams will help.

Delete Unity shit.

^ top kek

I think the desktop unity app is great.

imagine trying to get a diplo game going like this.

i remember when you could easily get a rt diplo going

Fizzer your post was really helpful, thanks. I did not know about the summer dip. One thing I noticed myself however is that there are a few hours throughout each day where traffic is better, and these hours appear to be somewhere between around noon my time (EST), and the few hours ahead, which would be somewhere around for the 5 PM and some hours proceeding that for most europeans, so I'm assuming that many Europeans hop on after school or work. The QM thing is another great point that many of you mentioned, but someone else also mentioned that this decline started to happen before QM was a thing, so I'm not sure how much blame QM would really deserve honestly.

Edited 8/9/2018 13:46:10

"My stats show that more real-time games are being played than ever before."

I think this number includes QM. So the open games tab is being replaced by something superior.

Games really don't fill easily anymore in general unless it's like 12-4 PM EST, and then it still takes like 20 minutes.

I think a natural step for RoR players is to make lots of MD tournaments, or for RoR players to band together somehow for RT games.

Games really don't fill easily anymore in general unless it's like 12-4 PM EST

Your solution is to get your boot rate down. Most players in the community avoid those with extremely high boot rates, so you'll likely see a dramatic improvement if you get it below 10%.

Your solution is to get your boot rate down. Most players in the community avoid those with extremely high boot rates, so you'll likely see a dramatic improvement if you get it below 10%.

Which brings the point again to the Paradox; you need to play games to lower your bootrate, but you need to lower your bootrate to play games. A problem still unresolved, if even acknowledged to begin with.

Which brings the point again to the Paradox; you need to play games to lower your bootrate, but you need to lower your bootrate to play games.

You need to lower your bootrate to play quality games with people who avoid booters. There's always auto games, quickmatch games, ladder games, and dozens of open games that will accept people with any boot rate. And you can make your own games. It's only a problem if none of those things existed.

Bring back WGL!

"Lack of moderation of the community"


Maybe more actions from moderators would make the game more enjoyable...


This is an example of how toxic this community can be:

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/312493-joint-community-blacklist-rascistrude-players

Really fizzer? I made generic diplos in rt in the summer of 2017 and it filled it pretty quickly. It's not a summer thing, it's the decline of creativity and usage.

A genuine question in good faith here: does WarZone advertise? If so where?

It's not a summer problem , cus a lot of the other games are fine in summer ,
the problem is "wazone" is not "warlight" , the game was better in 2012 ,
RIP "warlight" ,

Note : down voting my post doesn't make it wrong , but only prove how childish the one who down voted it .

kek