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Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/14/2018 21:37:11


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Source: https://medium.com/s/trustissues/the-lifespan-of-a-lie-d869212b1f62

You may remember this experiment if you have ever taken a 101 Psychology course. Random students at Stanford college were taken and randomly assigned to be prisoners or guards in a fake prison. Then the "guards" started acting more aggressively and torturing the prisoners while the prisoners started acting more meek and timid.

Communists, Leftists, SJWs, and most especially Anarchists love to cite this famous experiment to show that hierarchies turn normal people into monsters and that hierarchies need to be abolished. My Psychology 101 teacher compared the "guards" in the experiment to police officers in real life.

Well, it turns out it was all a fake. If you hear your Psych 101 teacher citing this experiment then talk to her after the class and explain to her that her information is out of date. Textbooks need to be changed. No doubt, people will continue to still cite this experiment in daily life.

This is just a reminder that science can be faked and we should be extremely skeptical. I can't wait until the majority of scientists wake up to modern day hoaxes like Climate Change.

EDIT: I understand that leftists out there won't accept any news source that is not "certifiably woke" so I found the Vox article. https://www.vox.com/2018/6/13/17449118/stanford-prison-experiment-fraud-psychology-replication

Edited 6/14/2018 21:39:22
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/14/2018 23:35:03


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the real problem is not if this or that have been manipulated or was wrong somehow. The problem is that social sciences in the us tradition makes these insane controlled "experiments" and extrapolate wildly from them.This mimicking of how the natural sciences conducts experiments in the social sciences is insane, and requires that you have never thought about what you actually study or any kind of methodological issues in general really......
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/15/2018 05:21:27


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Thanks for the info, Rogue NK's alt!
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/15/2018 05:23:53

Japanball
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Sounded sane until that bit on climate change.
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/15/2018 05:36:08


l4v.r0v 
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guess the bar for sanity must be real low for you then
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/15/2018 06:51:17


Wulfhere
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>skip past central argument
>low quality bantz

what knyte thinks he is: galaxy brain science man too big to play with the light weights aka people with genuine convictions on this forum

what he actually is: squeeker pee pee boy who gets tossed around by bully gang
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/15/2018 23:10:48


Dullahan
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>people with genuine convictions
You mean radical neckbeards obsessed with politics?

>climate change
>a hoax
Wew lad

Heh.You're both wrong, losers😎
Seriously though, hierarchies may not make people mad with power, but a total position of power does. No wonder N.Germany and Soviet union showed no care for human life. It may not breed sadism, but it breeds totalitarian cruelty. Lord of the flies is one of the perfect example of this.

Edited 6/15/2018 23:22:24
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/16/2018 02:55:10


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I could respect your appeal to shallow investment in any issue being addressed as a way to duck out of having to do any intellectual work if you were at least consistent.

In the same breath you would utter 'people who care about these questions are neckbeards' and then go on to answer the question yourself.
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/16/2018 16:22:33


l4v.r0v 
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Pee pee boy lmfao
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/16/2018 19:13:45


Dullahan
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I'm autistic :^) I can't help but argue with strangers. I don't go on a crusade to enlist people into the local nazbol gang. I do voice my opinion and argue to gain knowledge and/or a different perspective. I do take all sides into perspective, I don't just brush off your ideas, I even want to understand you. And myvconclusion is that: nigga u gay. I can't help arguing until I'm proved right or I'm proved wrong. I understand other people more than I understand myself. I do obsess over shit, but not politics. I only think about shit because it's fun sometimes. You're devoted to the point that you include it into a damn children's game. It's obvious that you are devoted and some type of neckbeard/neet.

Edited 6/16/2018 19:20:24
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/16/2018 20:10:03


l4v.r0v 
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also like what's even up for debate here?

lots of pop psych (and some of behavioral econ) is built on faked or sketchy or very limited experiments. the flavor text about liberals and global warming ain't really tied to the subject, just Nikolai's take on it... which is cool I guess. I don't see why every thread on the OT forum of the online version of a board game has to be full of debates and dick-swinging contests. I don't come here to validate myself as an intellectual but if I did I think that'd be my signal that the good times are over and it's time to kill myself or do something new with my life.

you're more than welcome to try and start debates here even if i think that's generally a disingenuous recruitment tactic (internet politics is bleh), but that doesn't mean other people have to engage you or that people who choose to engage do so in the context you want them to. OT is a broad category and people come here for their own reasons that generally don't match yours. world is always gonna be full of people that don't behave the way you want em to, and part of life is learning not to bitch about that- either tolerate em or figure out how to orchestrate the largest (and counterintuitively, also the most targeted) mass murder in history.

i mean if i were you I'd probably just kill myself but loosening up a little ain't a bad second option. barring that, maybe try less sophomoric insults.

Edited 6/16/2018 20:13:29
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/17/2018 09:25:04


Wednesday
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''I'm autistic :^)''

dropped

omg gooknyte tl;dr get a fuckin life
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/17/2018 18:37:16


Wulfhere
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>gives a longwinded attempt at serious life advice
>end it with IF I WERE YOU ID JUST KILL MYSELF

D R O P P E D

knytes angst and insecurity's showing through again, it was a nice attempt at a post though.
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/18/2018 02:24:08


Dullahan
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We don't want to hear any of your ramblings, I think those that check the forums know about you, and are just tired of these threads you and your friends are posting. Plenty of sites where you can circlejerk, this isn't it. This is offtopic, not your exclusive political recruitment board. Don't you have a membership for the mongolian horsemilking board?
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/26/2018 18:12:30


Nate Kenobi
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I see hollywood has this board rtfu as well.
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/30/2018 01:11:21


Wulfhere
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Moral "psychology" experiments are bunk. Participants in these studies are smart enough to figure out the narrative of the experiment and and play along with it.
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 6/30/2018 23:44:43


Alia Atreides
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Well said, knyte.
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 7/1/2018 01:51:29


Wulfhere
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It wasn't well said but I guess nobody bothered to debunk it because it was tl;dr. Knyte, if people come here for their own reasons why does that mean having arguments about politics is somehow bad; if you want to talk about something else make your own thread or derail a politics thread but don't tell people they can't have debates here.
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 7/1/2018 01:54:44


Wulfhere
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What I think knyte is trying to say is, there's no reason to attack T-Rex for not wanting to debate but here's where it gets complicated: he joins in these debates with half-legit opinions but then acts like he doesn't have to argue for them and just insults his opponents after making a weak point. The only way to counter that is to bring the bantz
Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax: 7/1/2018 03:21:15


Rogue NK
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People debate politics on OT because there are lots of people on OT who want to debate. Don't overthink it.
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