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A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 05:32:30


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljMPafQpfDU

alt hypothesis explains why the Jewish people have been so forward thinking and important in the progress Western society is making.

he also warns us to COOL DOWN with the Anti-Semitism so we can start learning and tolerating other cultures
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 09:00:53


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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No scientific but has nice artwork.
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 17:35:48


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>science-as-reality
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 20:29:59


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Yes. Most Jews are left leaning but not Orthodox Jews who are following their religion as it was intended. Republican Orthodox Jews outnumber Democrat Orthodox Jews 2:1.

Orthodox Jews make up only 10% of Jews but they have above replacement birthrates while Secular Jews have below replacement birthrates so demographics are on our side.

I suspect that those Republican Jewish donors are almost all Orthodox. Orthodox Jews are our allies in the fight against globalism and Marxism and videos like the one above is not helping.

In reality, all Jews should be a slam dunk for the right wing. Jews are the first target of the Muslim "refugee" hordes. Jews are very wealthy and they would benefit from tax cuts and market liberalization. Jews also oppose the Iran deal, support moving the capital to Jerusalem, and defending Israel which requires a large military defense budget.

The problem is Jewish Guilt. Secular Jews want a welfare state, lots of refugees, and affirmative action because in college they are taught to hate themselves and their wealth that their ancestors have accrued, ignore Jewish geniuses like Eisenstein, and that they must pay reparations to brown people for being wealthy.

I do not have facts on Orthodox Jewish opinions on Affirmative action, the refugee crisis, and the other topics brought up in the video.

Edited 4/29/2018 20:31:28
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 20:59:09


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Honestly, you can support Orthodox Jews but don't push this idea that we "need Israel" somehow to oppose the globalists. Israel is parasitic on Western economies; its leadership and tech elite does not have grand military and strategic wisdom. Israeli dual citizens in Western governments are entangled in the politics webs so can negotiate free money and weapons from these Western states to the state that they are actually loyal to (Israel). Israel is not some great power that can be called upon in war. That's like if I've got an arsenal of weapons and you steal half of my arsenal and then agree to fight on my side. You're not expanding the total firepower you're just redistributing it and Israel is not even a trustworthy ally.

Israel consistently undermines Western foreign policy directly leading to the rise of terrorist groups in the Middle East and their encroaching activity into Western countries. Libya and Iraq were bulwarks against radical Islamic terrorism until US intervention supported by Israel destroyed those countries. Syria finds itself in a similar situation.

Do you insenuate that without Orthodox Jews the West would be invaded by its enemies? China and Russia are foreign states that oppose Islamic conquest and we do not pretend that we actually rely on these states to save us. As if the only thing standing in the way of the Islamic conquest of the West is Orthodox Jews.

A proper defense of Western countries is simpler than you think. Un-POZZ the media and academia. Secure the borders. Maintain our military forces like we've been doing forever. Foreigners are generally a political liability even if they tend to have a common enemy with your country. Because the class of foreigners who actually get involved in politics are the elite of the elite and ulterior motives are implicit. Saudi Arabia opposes Iran for example, but do you think the Saudis want physical American Christians in their political establishment, making decisions for that country? Asinine.

Edited 4/29/2018 21:02:35
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 21:24:17


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I think it is not only fair but sane and rational to allow a small group of foreigners to live in your country ON THE CONDITION that they cannot vote, hold offices, or influence politics in any way as this influence by its very nature is an act of war and has always been considered as such. Of course property rights should be codified and people can't be abused by the state simply for being foreigners, but it should be very clear that foreigners are guests.
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 21:26:46


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The only countries that extend considerable rights to foreigners are Western countries.
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 22:52:40


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I actually agree with a lot of that.

1. You are right. We don't need Israel to oppose globalism. If the US stopped funding and co-operating the WTO, UN, and defending the EU (through NATO) then all these institutions would collapse or be left with no real power. Russia and China sees most of these institutions as western power grabs.

Israel certainly doesn't like the UN or refugees and it is bad strategy to fight somebody fighting globalism. The reason Israelis support Europeans taking refugees is because Israelis, correctly, understand that it was western governments who created these refugee storms by bombing Libya, armed the "moderate" Syrian rebels aka ISIS and Al-Qaeda, and who broadcast to the whole third world that they would take anybody who made it into Italy.

Israel was not responsible for this catastrophe and I don't see why they should take 1 single refugee for the actions of Europe.

2. Israel does pay money for Western military weapons. I think our profit margins on these weapons sales should be larger but that is more to do with how much American companies charge the US government to make their weapons. Russia and China can make similar or slightly less effective weapons for magnitudes cheaper prices.

3. Israel did not cause the US to invade Iraq and for the EU to bomb Libya. The bombing of Libya was a ploy by European economists and politicians to flood Europe with migrants to stabilize its population pyramid and get new left wing voters.

If anybody caused the invasion of Iraq it was the Iranians.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/may/25/usa.iraq10

I know it is the Guardian but think about who benefited the most from the Invasion of Iraq. A Shia dominated government was established in Iraq and Saddam Hussein was a huge enemy of Iran. Since then Iran has only grown in power. Iranian militias rome Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon. In the long run the Invasion of Iraq and the subsequent Rise of Iran has given Israel serious competition.

4. If there are foreign citizens sabotaging US foreign policy then I support them being prosecuted. Almost every American agrees that this should be a crime. There are laws against this so I don't think we need any new legislation.

If you believe that Israeli dual citizens are convincing American politicians to support Israel then that is absolutely false. Supporting Israel is extremely popular in America and politicians are simply reacting to this popular support. I do agree that other Western nations have MUCH lower opinions of Israel and their governments do not listen to the public but America is the most important donor to Israel.

Edited 4/29/2018 22:59:23
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/29/2018 23:46:23


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4. If there are foreign citizens sabotaging US foreign policy then I support them being prosecuted. Almost every American agrees that this should be a crime. There are laws against this so I don't think we need any new legislation.


1. I don't think you and Wulfy are operating on the same definition of "foreign"; you seem to be going by citizenship, while Wulfhere's rhetoric makes me think he would still consider, say, a naturalized Jewish immigrant (or their progeny) a foreigner while you probably won't.

2. Legally, foreign nationals (i.e., those who aren't at least permanent residents of the United States) should not be donating to political campaigns. However, these restrictions only really apply to transparent channels like the candidates themselves, and a sufficiently intelligent, sufficiently motivated foreign national would be able to circumvent them trivially. This isn't an easy loophole to fix, either, since (at least under the Roberts Court) the First Amendment curtails the power of the government to limit and regulate election financing. Basically, it's like mass shootings in that, unless we're willing to prop up some sort of police state and/or repudiate some foundational values of our society, we don't have any good way of eliminating some illegal/unwanted behavior.

3. This whole thread:



Edited 4/29/2018 23:51:37
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/30/2018 00:08:58


Жұқтыру
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knyte spreading liberal lies again go back to your kibbutz honey
A Celebration of the Jewish People (video): 4/30/2018 00:19:24


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On campaign finance reform.....

It isn't enough evidence to say "Foreign national donated to X political campaign and when they won they did Y for that foreign country."

You have to show me that the candidate changed their position after they received those funds. Because it is also possible, and much more likely, that people + foreign nationals + businesses donate and prop up candidates who already agree with them. I see nothing wrong with giving money to people who you agree with.

But if you can show me the candidate who changed their position after they received funds then I agree that we should prosecute them for bribery.

Edited 4/30/2018 00:21:47
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