<< Back to Clans Forum   Search

Posts 191 - 210 of 301   <<Prev   1  2  3  ...  6  ...  9  10  11  ...  13  ...  15  16  Next >>   
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/24/2018 15:26:47


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
Whoops, hadn't seen he beat Timon. It was after i finished the update. Sorry 'bout that. And yeah, the PJ game looks like it was a surrenderboot. Didn't check that game in details cause i don't like reviewing games where someone boots. Everyone's right, farah's wrong. The usual :p
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/24/2018 18:18:54


master of desaster 
Level 66
Report
Farah you should analyze games with boots especially. You might be the one playing/booting in them
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/24/2018 21:28:32


Master Cowboy 
Level 60
Report
Also, the game vs timi wad basically won
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/24/2018 23:56:43

hobo
Level 61
Report
ah my ears must of been burning, not checked this thread for a while.

Who are these charlatans that predicted i would be last?????????? i want them all banned from warlight. shame on them, we should have a game of thrones homage and just get every one on wl to comment shame...lol

no it's fair enough i dont play many 1v1's and not a big fan of the map, tbh i played a few games with theenigma as practice when cl started and despite having early lead in every game against him i did play too safe and let him grow and come back and kick my ass in every game so fara is prob spot on about not being aggressive enough.
took me to game against lynx to learn need more agressive play on that map. well i take 3rd in my first div A tourney, next one i hoping for 6 boots.lol

I suspect mifran has played this map b4, looks like he gonna walk it. he's kinda good.

well hobo's are the ultimate over achievers, our expectations are set so low we have no choice but to exceed them....lol.

Edited 8/25/2018 01:33:26
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/30/2018 12:56:36


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report

Update #8 - August 30th, 2018


No postcards have arrived so far. Every day i keep checking my mailbox, but it seems to be in vain.



1v1 French Brawl (Finished) - Winner: Kezzo

(5-1) Outlaws		- Kezzo
(5-1) ONE!		- Beren
(4-2) Lynx		- Wini
(3-3) VS		- Nackickwind
(2-4) M'Hunters	- Rogue NK
(2-4) Master Clan	- Pardon99
(0-6) |GG|		- Mikaela




1v1 Guiroma (Finished) - Winner: MisterT

(5-1) |GG|		- MisterT
(5-1) Lynx		- QuickSilver
(4-2) Master Clan	- master of desaster
(3-3) M'Hunters	- Emu Pub
(2-4) Outlaws		- Krzysztof
(1-5) ONE!		- Ipsimus
(1-6) VS		- INSIDE




1v1 Elitist Africa

(4-1) Master Clan	- master of desaster
(4-2) Lynx		- Juan
(3-3) ONE!		- Muli
(3-3) |GG|		- fireice82
(2-3) M'Hunters	- Cluster
(2-4) Outlaws		- Carlos
(2-4) VS		- Private Pabse
Games finished since last update:
No games finished
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/30/2018 12:56:39


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
1v1 Strategic Greece

(4-1) Outlaws		- Edge
(4-1) |GG|		- MIFRAN
(4-1) M'Hunters	- hobo
(2-3) Lynx		- Timon92
(1-2) Master Clan	- Timinator
(1-3) ONE!		- PJ
(0-5) VS		- Glam 'd Slam Islam
Games finished since last update:

hobo (MH) defeats Timon92 (Lynx)
hobo gets his triplepick on Thebean League, which is troubling for timon. But, as we all know, hobo played so passive earlier so timon can make some good predicts, right? Nope, hobo barely deploys to his bonus and goes all in on predicting timon taking Northwest Peleponnese. Two more turns of good predicting by hobo slowly gets timon to 5 income and an unwinnable position. A short but fun game to watch.

PJ (ONE!) defeats Timon92 (Lynx)
While PJ has the income advantage early on, timon holds the positional advantage, controlling Sykros with a big stack. On turn 5, PJ predicts where timon is going to smash him, but the turn after he gets broken. Now timon has an income advantage of 1 and is in a position to do some serious damage. PJ guesses correctly and doesn't let timon break any more income than he's already broken. But then turn 8 happens. Timon attacks PJ's income with 3's and a 7. But PJ defends all the attacked territories with 3's and a 5, resulting in timon not breaking anything. But it gets worse for timon. PJ has a stack on Sykros and delays his socks off. Then as last move, PJ does an attack-only on Lesbos, taking his bonus back and taking back the income advantage. Turn 8 was sick. The following turns are both players fighting it out on Sykros and timon trying to eliminate Sparta. While PJ doesn't have 300 men in Sparta, he does have enough to hold off timon. With the 2 income advantage that PJ holds and the stack advantage of 8 armies, the game is over and timon surrenders. Turn 8 was beautiful. Go watch it.

Edge (Outlaws) defeats MIFRAN (GG)
MIFRAN gets the ftb on Sporades. Edge gets the counter on Sporades. MIFRAN has intel on the counter, but decides to go for it anyway with all he has. But Edge took out his calculator and counters the ftb while taking a 2-bonus. MIFRAN is looking to get income and takes Messinia next turn. He also prepares to take West Central Greece, a 4-bonus. It looks like Edge counted this out perfectly; on turn 3 MIFRAN tries to counter Central Aegean, but a first turn smash by Edge on the counter prevents that from happening. MIFRAN takes his 4-bonus which leaves Edge with a 1-income deficit. Edge knows he'll be broken in central Aegean, so he opts for Dodecanese, the big 5 bonus. He also increases the pressure on West Central Greece. On turn 5 MIFRAN does something unexpected and takes back the countered first turn bonus while letting edge break West Central Greece. It leads to a 2-income advantage for Edge but somewhat more pressure on his 5-bonus. On turn 6, Edge gets a lucky first move and rebreaks the ftb. MIFRAN flanks to the quadruple border on Edge's 5-bonus and tries to retake West Central Greece. That fails and the incomes are now 7 for MIFRAN and 12 for Edge. MIFRAN surrenders and I'm not sure why. He had a chance to break Edge's 5-bonus, getting the incomes back to 7-7. Then it becomes a brawl where MIFRAN would have a slight disadvantage, but it wasn't lost in my opinion.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/30/2018 12:56:42


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
1v1 Pangea Ultima

(4-1) Master Clan	- Rufus
(3-0) ONE!		- Malakkan
(3-0) Lynx		- Rento
(2-3) Outlaws		- Facetroll
(2-4) M'Hunters	- Emu Pub
(1-4) |GG|		- JV
(1-4) VS		- Rocky1
Games finished since last update:

Facetroll (Outlaws) defeats JV (GG)
The game is deleted, so I'm going to assume JV didn't join the game. Please correct me if that's wrong.



1v1 Battle Islands V

(3-1) Outlaws		- Krzysztof
(3-1) Master Clan	- Pardon99
(2-2) Lynx		- Timon92
(2-2) VS		- Gibson
(2-2) M'Hunters	- AI
(1-2) |GG|		- awesomeusername
(0-3) ONE!		- FiveStarGeneral
Games finished since last update:

Pardon99 (Masters) defeats FiveStarGeneral (ONE!)
Pardon gets his first, fourth and fifth pick. With Liconia being a combo, that's basically full intel. While FiveStarGeneral is forced to go for his combo, Pardon takes his 2 bonuses and moves towards the counter. FiveStarGeneral doesn't move to the position from where he could've seen Pardon coming, and gets countered badly. Once Pardon breaks Liconia, FiveStarGeneral is back on five income while Pardon can rest with an almost uncontested 12 income and it's game over.



2v2 FE

(3-1) ONE!		- Suschel + PJ
(3-1) Outlaws		- Edge + Kezzo
(3-2) M'Hunters	- AI + Rogue NK
(2-1) Master Clan	- Deadman + Master Jz
(2-2) Lynx		- Rento + alexclusive
(1-4) |GG|		- MIFRAN + Ko
(0-3) VS		- Rocky1 + vicnus
Games finished since last update:
No games finished



2v2 Szeurope

(3-0) Lynx		- Juan + 90\(ºº)/
(3-2) |GG|		- Mike |GG| + JV
(2-1) ONE!		- FiveStarGeneral + Memele
(2-2) VS		- Buns157 + Nackickwind
(1-2) Master Clan	- Timinator + Xenophon
(1-2) M'Hunters	- Digital + hobo
(0-3) Outlaws		- Odin + Platinum
Games finished since last update:
No games finished



2v2 Volcano Islands

(3-0) Master Clan	- master of desaster + Xenophon
(3-1) M'Hunters	- Cluster + Digital
(2-1) Lynx		- Player
(2-2) ONE!		- Ispimus + FiveStarGeneral
(2-2) VS		- Steve1513 + DemHunt
(1-3) Outlaws		- Platinum + aoc
(0-4) |GG|		- EZPickens + Ko
Games finished since last update:
No games finished
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/30/2018 12:56:44


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
3v3 Biomes of America

(3-0) |GG|		- awesomeusername + fireice82 + linberson
(2-0) Lynx		- alexclusive + Octane + ZeroBlindDragon
(2-1) ONE!		- Malakkan + Muli + Adreso
(2-2) Master Clan	- Timinator + Master Moto + Master Jaesar
(2-2) M'Hunters	- Jo Jo + AyanM + hobo
(1-2) Outlaws		- Facetroll + Edge + Platinum
(0-5) VS		- johnmd20 + vicnus + Jef
Games finished since last update:

TBest + Emu Pub + hobo (MH) defeat vicnus + johnmd20 + Jef (VS)
After picks, it's clear that the MH team can expand a lot the first two turns. Especially hobo, getting a combo on Llanos and getting Lima as well. Emu's combo on Southern Andes is challenged by Jef, but Emu gets it anyway. When tbest gives his spot in the north to hobo so he can join the fight with his massive income advantage, the game looks over. The VS team tries one final thing, which is eliminating TBest, but unfortunately hobo and Emu have big incomes and TBest survives.



3v3 Europe

(3-0) Outlaws		- Kezzo + Platinum + Odin
(3-0) Master Clan	- Deadman + Master Jz + Master Moto 
(3-1) |GG|		- FlyingBender + MisterT + Po1onius
(1-1) Lynx		- Dom365 + Juan + 90 \(ºº)/
(1-4) M'Hunters	- AI + Melethron + blobblob
(0-2) ONE!		- Suschel + Muli + Beren
(0-3) VS		- DarrenDieHard + INSIDE + tobe
Games finished since last update:

Master Moto + Deadman + Master Jz (Masters) defeat Mike |GG| + MisterT + Po1onius (GG)
Masters see a combo that GG doesn't see: Eastern Balkans. GG has an uncontested Czech until Master Moto shows up to spoil that party. Deadman gets Belarus and the income advantage is getting bigger and bigger for Masters. When Master Jz gets into western Norway with 15 uncontested income, the party lights really go out for GG.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/30/2018 12:56:46


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report


M'Hunters have a great week, winning a 3v3 and winning a 1v1. It gets them 8 points and they lose nothing. The relegation fight is getting closer and closer and if M'Hunters manage to keep this performance up, anything is possible for them.

Masters have a great week as well, doing the same stuff as M'Hunters (you copycats). They win a 3v3 and a 1v1, resulting in 8 uncontested points too. While they now have more points than Lynx, their max points are still somewhat lower than lynx's. But the fight for first is close again, and that's good!

Outlaws is the last clan with a good week. Winning 2 1v1's nets them six points and gets them some safety at the third place. M'Hunters, in sixth place, are only 3 points away from them. Their max points differ by 24, but this gives an idea of how close this is getting.

ONE! has a mixed week, winning a 1v1, but losing one as well. They get 3 points but see their max points decrease by 3 in the process. With fewer points than GG and M'Hunters it's time for them to stop stalling and start relegating. Erm, winning. Start winning.

VS doesn't find themselves on the bottom of this list for a change. They go 0-1, losing a 3v3. With their winrate almost dropping below 25%, they need to step up their game. At least mess with the top a bit, guys.

Lynx ends up going 0-2. Timon loses a 1v1 twice on Greece. If they want to hold their top spot, this is not the kind of performance you want to end a week with. Then again, it's only 2 games. But Masters are closing in on them, so if they want their second Clan League trophy they need to win more.

GG finds itself in VS's usual spot. They go 0-3, losing not only 2 1v1's, but also a 3v3. They now have the same amount of points as M'Hunters, but stay above them by having more max points.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 8/31/2018 01:01:06

FiveStarGeneral
Level 61
Report
Disappointing update. No boots!

P.S. I think you mathed the difference between Outlaws and MH wrong.

Edited 8/31/2018 01:08:29
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 11:34:05


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report

Update #9 - September 5th, 2018


We get some rules to follow.
That and this.
These and those.
No ONE! knows.



1v1 French Brawl (Finished) - Winner: Kezzo

(5-1) Outlaws		- Kezzo
(5-1) ONE!		- Beren
(4-2) Lynx		- Wini
(3-3) VS		- Nackickwind
(2-4) M'Hunters	- Rogue NK
(2-4) Master Clan	- Pardon99
(0-6) |GG|		- Mikaela




1v1 Guiroma (Finished) - Winner: MisterT

(5-1) |GG|		- MisterT
(5-1) Lynx		- QuickSilver
(4-2) Master Clan	- master of desaster
(3-3) M'Hunters	- Emu Pub
(2-4) Outlaws		- Krzysztof
(1-5) ONE!		- Ipsimus
(1-6) VS		- INSIDE




1v1 Elitist Africa (Finished) - Winner: master of desaster

(5-1) Master Clan	- master of desaster
(4-2) Lynx		- Juan
(3-3) ONE!		- Muli
(3-3) |GG|		- fireice82
(2-4) M'Hunters	- Cluster
(2-4) Outlaws		- Carlos
(2-4) VS		- Private Pabse
Games finished since last week:

master of desaster (Masters) defeats Cluster (M'Hunters)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15751476
Apparently, master of desaster vs. Cluster finished about 2 months ago, but nobody noticed. This means that master of desaster wins the tournament with a whopping 5-1, losing only to the number 2 of the tournament. A bloody good job, MoD, so congratulations. I would review the game, but the last time i played elitist africa was when the template was being tested and even then i couldn't make enough sense of it. So you'll have to watch this one yourselves.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 11:34:08


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report



1v1 Strategic Greece

(5-1) Outlaws		- Edge
(4-1) |GG|		- MIFRAN
(4-2) M'Hunters	- hobo
(2-2) Master Clan	- Timinator
(2-3) ONE!		- PJ
(2-4) Lynx		- Timon92
(0-6) VS		- Glam 'd Slam Islam
Games finished since last week:

Timinator apex (Masters) defeats Timon92 (Lynx)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=16264199
The game everyone's been waiting for. These two are the giants upon whose shoulders we may one day stand. This promises to be climax of the tournament, the summit of strategy. The Zenith of Ze German or the heyday of timon's reign.

Nah, just kidding, timon boots turn 1.

Beren apex (ONE!) defeats INSIDE (VS)
You gotta love Beren for his counter in Sporades. Beren and INSIDE start off by expanding vigorously. At the end of turn 2, they look like they're both going to be on 15 income. But, Beren does a 3v2 last move to counter Sporades and it works. Beren prepares to take the north by turn 4 and so he does. He outexpands INSIDE's rather limited expansion options, leaving INSIDE with the only option of stacking while Beren raises his own income. When INSIDE is facing a 23-income Beren, he sees his own 15 isn't going to be of much use anymore and he surrenders.

Edge (Outlaws) defeats hobo (M'Hunters)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=16123624
Edge gets the income advantage fast here. On turn 2, Edge with 16 income is facing a 10-income hobo who's looking to complete Dodecanese, worth 5. He does so on turn 3, but gets smashed in Sporades. Pay the iron prince, they say. Next turn, Edge breaks him with a big boy stack, but hobo completes a 4-bonus, facing Edge's income. Then disaster strikes Edge. His 3-bonus gets broken but he fails to trade bonuses and is suddenly behind on income. He desperately tries to either break Macedonia or take over Sporades. For a few turns, he survives with his income deficit and takes over Evia. While hobo is trying to eliminate Edge from the north, Edge sneaks up through Sporades to Macedonia, breaking bonuses. He also takes a 4-bonus and now has the upper hand. The battle is going pretty even for the next ten or so turns. They break some, they take some; Edge constantly has a bit more income and that's what wins him the game in the long run. Along with some good predicts of course.



1v1 Pangea Ultima

(4-0) Lynx		- Rento
(4-1) Master Clan	- Rufus
(3-1) ONE!		- Malakkan
(2-3) Outlaws		- Facetroll
(2-4) M'Hunters	- Emu Pub
(1-4) |GG|		- JV
(1-4) VS		- Rocky1
Games finished since last update:

Rento (Lynx) defeats Malakkan (ONE!)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=16144970
Both players meet turn 1. Malakkan fails to eliminate Rento from Eastern US turn 2 and gets in a position where he faces elimination in Europe. Malakkan correctly predicts that he can eliminate Rento without deploy there now and tries to take another bonus. But, Rento knows. And when Rento knows, he stacks and unfortunately for Malakkan: he knows.



1v1 Battle Islands V

(4-1) Master Clan	- Pardon99
(3-2) Outlaws		- Krzysztof
(2-2) Lynx		- Timon92
(2-2) M'Hunters	- AI
(2-3) VS		- Gibson
(1-2) |GG|		- awesomeusername
(1-3) ONE!		- FiveStarGeneral

Games finished since last update:

Pardon99 (Masters) defeats Gibson (VS)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=16305707
Poor Gibson sees his 6-bonus countered by pardon, just as he was trying to complete it. After such disaster, he tries to expand elsewhere, but Pardon outexpands him every turn and Gibson has to surrender.

FiveStarGeneral (ONE!) defeats Krzysztof (Outlaws)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=16305709
In what looked like an interesting and still open game, Krzysztof boots turn 4.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 11:34:10


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
2v2 FE

(3-1) ONE!		- Suschel + PJ
(3-1) Outlaws		- Edge + Kezzo
(3-2) M'Hunters	- AI + Rogue NK
(2-1) Master Clan	- Deadman + Master Jz
(2-2) Lynx		- Rento + alexclusive
(1-4) |GG|		- MIFRAN + Ko
(0-3) VS		- Rocky1 + vicnus
Games finished since last update:
No finished games this week.



2v2 Szeurope

(3-0) Lynx		- Juan + 90\(ºº)/
(3-2) |GG|		- Mike |GG| + JV
(2-1) ONE!		- FiveStarGeneral + Memele
(2-2) VS		- Buns157 + Nackickwind
(1-2) Master Clan	- Timinator + Xenophon
(1-2) M'Hunters	- Digital + hobo
(0-3) Outlaws		- Odin + Platinum
Games finished since last update:
No finished games this week.



2v2 Volcano Islands

(3-0) Master Clan	- master of desaster + Xenophon
(3-1) M'Hunters	- Cluster + Digital
(2-1) Lynx		- Player
(2-2) ONE!		- Ispimus + FiveStarGeneral
(2-2) VS		- Steve1513 + DemHunt
(1-3) Outlaws		- Platinum + aoc
(0-4) |GG|		- EZPickens + Ko
Games finished since last update:
No games finished since last week
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 11:34:12


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
3v3 Biomes of America

(3-0) |GG|		- awesomeusername + fireice82 + linberson
(3-1) ONE!		- Malakkan + Muli + Adreso
(2-0) Lynx		- alexclusive + Octane + ZeroBlindDragon
(2-3) M'Hunters	- Jo Jo + AyanM + hobo
(2-2) Master Clan	- Timinator + Master Moto + Master Jaesar
(1-2) Outlaws		- Facetroll + Edge + Platinum
(0-5) VS		- johnmd20 + vicnus + Jef
Games finished since last update:

Malakkan + Muli + Adreso (ONE!) defeat Jo Jo + AyanM + hobo (M'Hunters)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15891289
An interesting board with few good picks on it. Emu's triplepick in the north is putting a lot of pressure on Muli and Adreso, but when hobo gets eliminated from Llanos turn 4, the triplepick gets broken too. M'Hunters decide to try a turn or two more, but then Jo Jo got booted. Not sure what happened after that.



3v3 Europe

(4-0) Master Clan	- Deadman + Master Jz + Master Moto - ???
(3-0) Outlaws		- Kezzo + Platinum + Odin
(3-1) |GG|		- FlyingBender + MisterT + Po1onius
(2-3) Lynx		- Dom365 + Juan + 90 \(ºº)/
(1-2) ONE!		- Suschel + Muli + Beren
(1-4) M'Hunters	- AI + Melethron + blobblob
(0-4) VS		- DarrenDieHard + INSIDE + tobe
Games finished since last update:

Deadman + Master Jz + Master Moto - ??? (Masters) defeat Dom365 + Juan + 90 \(ºº)/ (Lynx)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=16193628
I didn't think I'd see a game in division A where a team didn't mirror picks. 90 goes for a ftb on hungary as his 1,2 and 3 and gets it.
The only thing i'll say is i really dislike this way of picking. Masters seem to dislike it as well, as they break hungary on turn 3. With Master Moto on 12 income and Juan countering an empty norway on turn 2, the game takes a turn for the worst for the Lynx team. And after Hungary gets broken, it's game over.

Dom365 + Juan + 90 \(ºº)/ (Lynx) defeat DarrenDieHard + INSIDE + tobe
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=16023752
VS focuses very much on the ftb in West Central Russia. Lynx focuses more on the position in center and islands, choosing to counter the Russia ftb. Lynx also gets a first turn austria. After 12 turns of brawling, Dom365 manages to eliminate Russia, 90 has succesfully broken Iceland and Juan has taken over Benelux and Switzerland. They now have a big income advantage and VS surrenders.

Suschel + Muli + Beren (ONE!) defeat Dom365 + Octane + ZeroBlindDragon (Lynx)
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15710507
Another game where the Lynx team doesn't mirror. But they're at least closer this time. Suschel completes Norway, Beren completes Western Russia, giving the ONE! team the income lead. Suschel is setting up to take Austria and he does. ZeroBlindDragon tries to counter it but gets predicted. With ZeroBlindDragon having the income, but getting eliminated from center, the Lynx team has a real problem. Octane manages to break Western Russia, but Beren takes West Central Russia in the process.
On turn 8, something bad happens for the Lynx team. While they have broken Norway, Octane gets eliminated from Russia, leaving Beren with 7 uncontested income. ZeroBlindDragon is expanding as fast as he can, stacking his way to the center, but it just isn't enough. When his Eastern Balkans gets broken on turn 12, it's over.

Edited 9/5/2018 16:04:25
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 11:34:14


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
After this week, the scores look as follows:



  • ONE! has a blast this week! They go 4-1, netting them 16 points. They take over Outlaws' spot and fight themselves to third place. That podium place is now a big contest again.

  • Masters Have a great week too. Winning 2 1v1's and a 3v3 without losing anything. They go 3-0 and get 11 points this week. They have taken over Lynx's first place spot. Their total points and max points are both higher than Lynx right now.

  • Outlaws go for an even stevens week. They win one, they lose one. Earning 3 points and losing 3 max points.

  • GG goes for a 0-0 this week. Better than their average score, but they need to get some points going to avoid relegation.

  • Lynx has a mediocre week. Winning 2, but losing 3 games nets them -5 max points and they lose their first place spot. It's very close though, so they better not give up. They go 2-3 this week.

  • M'Hunters lose 2 games this week and win zilch. Their 0-2 score results in their max points going down by 8.

  • VS finds itself back in the last place of the updates. With a disappointing 0-3 they lose 11 max points and they're now officially locked out of the first four places. If they lose one more game and GG or MH wins one more game, they're officially relegated.

Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 15:43:13


90 \(ºº)/
Level 59
Report
Nice update, however:

(1) You made a typo: Juan didnt play in EU against ONE.

(2) Also, you might have missed it but you saw a previous game also when a non-mirror EU strategy was taken (lynx vs MH: https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15873806) [that time the non-mirror team won], so these arent the first "non-mirrored" EU games we see this division.

(the only reason for the comment in (2) is that I object to the propogation of the seemingly popular view that mirroring is the only good way to play EU. Dont get me wrong, mirroring is good, but there are other ways to play as well. The game against masters was not lost due to non-mirrored picks, but mainly due to our misjudgement in turn 2 in countering empty norway (and turn 3, obviously, but turn 2 was the bigger issue))

90

Edited 9/5/2018 15:53:50
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 16:09:47


Farah♦ 
Level 61
Report
(1) You made a typo: Juan didnt play in EU against ONE.

Fixed that. Thanks for mentioning.

(2) Also, you might have missed it but you saw a previous game also when a non-mirror EU strategy was taken (lynx vs MH: https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15873806) [that time the non-mirror team won], so these arent the first "non-mirrored" EU games we see this division.

Very true.

(the only reason for the comment in (2) is that I object to the propogation of the seemingly popular view that mirroring is the only good way to play EU. Dont get me wrong, mirroring is good, but there are other ways to play as well.

Of course there are other ways of playing EU. I just think that mirroring is the best way. What the game you linked shows is M'Hunters mispicking and misplaying their game, not a triple-pick on greece or a first pick on czech paying off. Again, just my opinion.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 17:25:34


Beren Erchamion 
Level 64
Report
Non-mirroring can definitely pay off in specific scenarios. Triple picking SWR or Poland are examples that I've seen work very well when they are unexpected. Another non-mirror strategy is breaking mirror to try to get one player a Portugal (or sometimes Finland) combo with their 3rd and 4th picks. But these are very situational strategies imo. And the first two triple pick options only really work because they get a player early income that is unexpected and only really works when the opponents get surprised and can't react quickly to contest those bonuses. Mirror picking is definitely the dominant strategy and other strategies are only really useful on the margins.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/5/2018 21:36:15


Norman 
Level 58
Report
Yeah, you definitely don't want to get pushed out of the sweet spots during picks and mirroring ensures that. However then again often I see pick outcomes which aren't favorable for one player. Maybe a case can be made to start of mirroring and then at a certain pick stop mirroring. I'm thinking particularly at picks 7, 13 or 19 to break the mirror. If you differ for example from pick 19, only your fourth spot can be effected and maybe you want to ensure that the fourth spots from your team. are spread out.

That being said, I haven't thought this true, just thinking while typing.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 9/6/2018 05:32:59


Beren Erchamion 
Level 64
Report
The problem with that is that you can't know who will be in which spot in the pick order, so it's not going to be possible to know which picks to give to each player with the late pick in order to ensure coverage for each player. You can try to account for that within the mirror itself though, assuming you're opponents have roughly the preferences for picks.

I'm open to new ideas here, but I haven't seen any reason to break the mirror other than for combos, and even then only in very specific scenarios. I like to make unorthodox picks occasionally, but even then I'm aware that they're likely suboptimal in and of themselves, but can pan out nicely sometimes due to being unexpected.
Posts 191 - 210 of 301   <<Prev   1  2  3  ...  6  ...  9  10  11  ...  13  ...  15  16  Next >>