“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, there’s no evidence that that has happened in the past or that it will happen this time, and so I’d invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and make his case to get votes.”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17032210/trump-obama-rigged-election-russia

hahaha. You know the Russian conspiracy theorists are desperate when they have to cite Vox.

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conspiracy theory heh.

why are all these people pleading guilty to mueller if if's a conspiracy theory?

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1. "these people" were all Russians. You can't find me one American who betrayed their country and it lead to the election of Donald Trump. That is meddling, not collusion.

2. Russia backed anti-Trump protests after the election. 17 intelligence agencies have stated that Russia's only goal was to sow discord in the US, making the sitting president unpopular and therefore ineffective. First they used propaganda to unseat Obama from power and now they are using it to unseat Trump from power. This is what our intelligence agencies are telling us.

3. The DNC + Deep state tried to rig the 2016 election. Donna Brazil fed debate questions to Hillary Clinton and Hillary used the DNC as a puppet during the Democratic primary. The DNC paid for protesters at Bernie Sander's rallies and all hiring and firing at the DNC had to be approved by members of the Clinton Campaign. The popular vote is the result of this deep state collusion.

4. We know that British Spy Christopher Steele was "desperate that Trump not be elected" and "passionate about him not being president" and that he colluded with the Russians to compile the Russian Dossier funded by the DNC and Clinton Campaign.

5. We know that this bought and paid for Dossier was used to gain a FISA warrant on Carter Page and that the Court did not know about the who paid for or put together the Dossier. And we know that the Russian Dossier was the main evidence used to gain the FISA warrant.

6. We know that Christopher Steele funneled information to the FBI through Bruce Ohr who worked at the DOJ. Bruce Ohr's wife worked for Fusion GPS as well.

7. We also know that Obama knew about the FBI's illegal wire tapping of Carter Page from the Peter and Lisa Page text messages and did nothing.

8. We also know that Peter Strzok was responsible for changing the wording of Comey's July 5 statement on Hillary Clinton's federal investigation from "gross negligence" which is a crime and "extreme carelessness" and that Peter Strzok had a personal investment in the failure of the Trump campaign.

8. Hillary approved the sale of a large portion of America's Uranium supply to Russia for her own personal wealth under the Uranium 1 scandal.

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I know you're going for quantity over quality here (I hope your parents did too, 'cause otherwise they got neither).. but really?

If you're gonna try to argue politics on Warzone of all places, conflate a rigged election with foreign interference, and try to drown Wally Balls in 8 dumbass points instead of just engaging him on one like a normal, well-adjusted person, at least fucking fact-check your shit: https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

Also, if you're interested in quotes, tell your mom I said it's not too late to get an abortion.

For the record, before you decide to accuse me of it, I'm not really attacking you in lieu of engaging you. I'm just rather dismayed that you exist and not interested in legitimizing this crap.

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>Too many facts! That's not fair!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

I wonder why an outlet that demonstrably lies repeatedly is interested in discrediting a site that regularly catches them on their lies (with citations you can check, too, because it turns out facts are determined by truth instead of your ability to count to 8).

E.g.: https://www.snopes.com/george-soros-controls-smartmatic-voting-machines-in-16-states/; follow the Daily Caller tag and you'll find tons.

I legitimately can't tell whether you're just pretending to be retarded.

"these people" were all Russians.

TIL Trump had lots of Russians working in his administration.

Not reading the rest of that so I have no opinion on it's factual accuracy.

I legitimately can't tell whether you're just pretending to be retarded.

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/258931-fix-western-balkans

Every political process is mere formality, and always reflects on the spirit of the age. If the age calls for a certain oligarchy, that oligarchy will be established, regardless of whether the system is monarchical, constitutional, democratic, etc. Formalities need only reflect on what is logically possible to sustain the oligarchy; if a formality is a hindrance it is reformed or replaced. If a formality is of great propaganda value, it will be nominally implemented.

Ad Hominem to the extreme eh, knyte?