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@Strategery

I don't think that the economy will crash in 2018, at least not in the next months. I'd say it's more something more like 2019-2020ish, but yea, the only decisions that could have prevented it needed to have been taken a few years ago, now it's probably a bit too late.

I wouldn't put the fault on Obama himself but more on structural problems of the economy that haven't been fixed since the crisis, something you can probably attribute not to one person in particular, but several.

1. Financial deregulation of the Clinton and Bush years haven't been reversed.

2. Bills passed to fix the financial system after the crisis were a big joke, the republicans mostly opposed all of them and not enough democrats supported strong bills when they controlled congress.

3. The Obama administration didn't really raise regulation by the margins it could have.

4. The FED's very expansive monetary policy and quantitative easing just put trillions of dollars into the financial system, that's the fault of Bernanke (Bush nominee) and Yellen (Obama nominee), but then again, this was one of the pillars of the economy recovery, so you can cut short a bit on them here.

5. The FED's constitution doesn't enforce that it must look out for structural problems of the economy, just conjectural ones (inflation+unemployment), so they've taken no steps to look out at financial problems.

6. Interest rates have been too low for too much time, that has boosted the economy but reinforces the financial problems.

7. Banking lobbying prevented any meaningful banking reform from passing.

8. The tax bill passed on is a serious disaster, it will probably only inject more money into finance when this money should be going into the real economy, that won't help a lot when it comes to bubbles.

9. The growing inequalities may soon provoke shortages on demand, that's atribuable to post-crisis economic trends but will also be reinforced by the tax bill while offer will explode thanks to growing companies optimism and the influx of cash provided by offshore money coming back and smaller taxes.

10. Growing debt, both private and public is really concerning, the first is caused by too small interest rates and the second by a lack of will to close the deficit. And the deficit problem is both parties fault, democrats refuse to decrease spending while republicans refuse to increase revenue (and actually fucking decreased it).

And the worst part is that no one is trying to do anything to adress those issues. If one thing the current government is reinforcing several of these trends while claiming that everything is going great and will be even better soon.

The ball is currently on the republican side to fix the issues since they control every level of government at the moment, but they won't. And to be pragmatic, if the dems retake congress this year I doubt they will be wanting to fix economic problems, focusing more on taking out the president than doing their legislative job (just like Republicans under Obama).

+1 Hot Brick

Conservative is a dumb term, ESPECIALLY for Americans.

If you mean Fascists / Traditionalists, you don't mean conservative. We literally oppose capitalism and want to remove internationalist parasites. We can't be bothered with evangelical Christianity.

I'm so far left I make Stalin look like fucking Pinochet.

I just don't talk about it on Warlight forums.

^^

I would not worry too much about anyone thinking of Fascists, either new or old, when conservatism is being spoken of. The Fascist, Alt-Right, Neo-Nazi, world is far removed from conservatism, even if constant efforts are being made to blur the lines. Fascism is very modern, and very radical.

To call it Traditionalist is an act of obfuscation. In the world of politics Traditionalism includes those who follow the political thought of men like Burke and Aristotle. I have a great respect for these people (those who hold with conservative & classic liberal thought) because at the end of the day they are an integral part of the western tradition, and I find many of their views congenial.

In a similar way, the phrase "remove internationalist parasites", is willfully obscure. Not that anyone is really puzzled. The only puzzle is why you don't show a bit more fortitude and plainly say what you mean.

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Unfortunately, most warlighters are liberals of some sort, including the conservatives (there's not many western lands where conservatives aren't liberal).

Fortunately or unfortunately however, many are beginning to support Caesarist candidates, like Trump. Ofc they still decry the growth of the executive branch, and dictatorship, but that's also evaporating.

For one, I look forward to when warlight fora argue over the American emperor's decisions, that'll be most interesting.

In a similar way, the phrase "remove internationalist parasites", is willfully obscure. Not that anyone is really puzzled. The only puzzle is why you don't show a bit more fortitude and plainly say what you mean.

Destroy capitalism and hang the bankers

^ Glad we'll have you fighting under the American flag very soon. Couldn't think of a better person to send overseas as a representative of truth, justice, and the American way. /s

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What happens after WW3 will be fun for me ;)

Only for like 5 minutes until you die like a bitch in the aftermath lol

Still a pretty nice way to go tbh